Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hi there. I am primarily just a musician who wants to do recording 
of my material using this XL-7 I purchased a few months back. Can 
some of you gurus out there give me a heads up on the way to get the 
Multi-Setups correct so I can accomplish this. I am having trouble 
with I guess the way I am turning Midi channels on and off and 
whether they are local or not. Heres my setup:

EMU/Ensoniq HALO 
* PHATT ROM installed
* VINTAGE ROM installed
* COMPOSER ROM installed

EMU XL7
* BEAT GARDEN ROM installed

I understand how I select different sounds for different channels as 
i use that consistently to quickly switch between patches during 
performances. I just can't seem to get it straight on how to set the 
XL-7 to record what I play on the HALO and also the tracks where I 
would like the keys I play on the HALO to trigger the XL7 based 
sounds as well. 

Any help would be appreciated greatly.

I started a reply this AM, but didn't have time to complete and test 
it.  It should get you started on the right track (pardon the pun).  
I know this has been addressed before in the archives, but I cannot 
recall what keyword to use to search the archives.

Perhaps others can fill in the details.

======================================================
SUMMARY:

Two key E-Mu features to understand and master:
(1) Rechannelize
(2) CHANNEL ASSIGN (channel and destination)

Also, midi routing is important. How are your midi ins and outs 
connected between the halo and the XL-7?

======================================================
ROUTING ISSUE:

I used the following setup:

Keyboard (controller only)
to
E-Mu sequencer
to
external gear--sound mudule(s)

It sounds like you are doing something similar only the Halo is both 
your keyboard and sound module.  Although I haven't done this, try 
the following:

Set Halo to Local Control off.
Send midi out of Halo to XL-7 midi in
Send midi out of XL-7 to Halo midi in

Make sure Halo is not merging midi in and sending it back out 
(dreaded midi feefback loop--ugggh!)

If I have this right, the Halo keys should not be playing the Halo 
synth engine, but the keystrokes should be going to the XL-7.

======================================================
RECHANNELIZE:

Turn RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: to always (MIDI menu system).

On XL-7 select pattern view.

On the XL-7, select Track 1 [T01] in the upper left corner of the 
display. Play the keys.  Assuming Halo is in Mutitimbral mode, the 
keys should play the Halo synth engine on channel 1 via the XL-7's 
rechannelize function.

[more needed here]

======================================================
RECORD DESTINATION (CHANNEL ASSIGN):

[more needed here]



======================================================

Hope this gets you started.

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "miltrezs_xl7" <miltrezs_xl7@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi there. I am primarily just a musician who wants to do recording 
> of my material using this XL-7 I purchased a few months back. Can 
> some of you gurus out there give me a heads up on the way to get 
the 
> Multi-Setups correct so I can accomplish this. I am having trouble 
> with I guess the way I am turning Midi channels on and off and 
> whether they are local or not. Heres my setup:
> 
> EMU/Ensoniq HALO 
> * PHATT ROM installed
> * VINTAGE ROM installed
> * COMPOSER ROM installed
> 
> EMU XL7
> * BEAT GARDEN ROM installed
> 
> I understand how I select different sounds for different channels 
as 
> i use that consistently to quickly switch between patches during 
> performances. I just can't seem to get it straight on how to set 
the 

> XL-7 to record what I play on the HALO and also the tracks where I 
> would like the keys I play on the HALO to trigger the XL7 based 
> sounds as well. 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated greatly.

Primary Task: With the E-Mu sequencer (Command Stations, P2500), to 
record data for pass through to external gear.

Secondary Task: To use a keyboard synth (eg, Halo) independently:
(1) as a controller sending data >> TO << the sequencer and 
(2) as a sound module receiving data >> FROM << the sequncer.

======================================================
SUMMARY:
 
Two key E-Mu features to understand and master:
 (1) Rechannelize
 (2) CHANNEL ASSIGN (channel and destination)

Also, midi routing is important. How are your midi ins and outs 
connected between the Halo and the XL-7?
 
======================================================
ROUTING:
 
I have used the following setups:
 
Controller (keyboard or midi sax)
to
E-Mu sequencer
to
external gear--sound mudule(s)
 
It sounds like you are doing something similar only the Halo is both 
your keyboard controller and your sound module.  Try  the following:
 
1. Set Halo to Local Control off.
--This should disconnect the Halo keyboard from the Halo sound 
module.
2. Send midi out of Halo to XL-7 midi in.
3. Send midi out of XL-7 to Halo midi in.
 
Make sure Halo is not merging midi in and sending it back out 
(dreaded midi feedback loop--ugggh!)

The Halo keys should not be playing the Halo synth engine, but the 
keystrokes should be going to the XL-7.

======================================================
MIDI MERGE [CS/P2500 MIDI button submenu]:

Assuming external sound module (eg, Halo synth portion) is receiving 
XL-7 data from MIDI PORT A:

Set MERGE MIDI IN TO OUT [CS/P2500] Out A: off.

The merge funtion will be handled by RECHANNELIZE. 

======================================================
RECHANNELIZE [CS/P2500 MIDI button submenu]:
 
Turn RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: to always.

This will allow the track selected for recording on the E-Mu 
sequencer to play the incoming data on the same channel on the 
Halo/sound module.

======================================================
CREATE PATTERN TEMPLATE FOR RECORDING TO EXTERNAL GEAR:

1. Select pattern view.
2. Select an empty pattern
3. Press Edit Pattern.
4. Name pattern (eg: "16 Tracks 2 Halo" or "16 Tracks to Ext" 
or "All -> Halo")
5. Optional: Set pattern length and other pattern parameters
6. In the Event editor--for each track (at time 001.01.001)--insert 
some data (patch change, controller, etc.) such as controller #7 
v:127). When you save the pattern as a template, having data here 
will keep the channel assignments (see below) from changing to the 
system defaults.
7. Go to CHANNEL ASSIGN menu.
8. For each track set the destination to ext. For example:
T01 Channel 01A Dest. ext.
T02 Channel 02A Dest. ext.
. . .
T016 Channel 16A Dest. ext.

9. Save the pattern template to at least two empty locations: 1 or 
more to use and 1 to keep as a template.
10. Also, save the current set up as a multi with a name like: "All -
> Halo" or "16 Tracks -> Ext."

======================================================
TEST THE CS/P2500 SETUP:

1. In Pattern View, select 16 external track pattern template
2. Select Track 1 [T01] in the upper left corner of the display.
3. Play the keys.

Assuming the Halo (or other external sound module) is in Mutitimbral 
mode, the keys should play the Halo synth engine on channel 1 via 
the XL-7's rechannelize function.

4. Select Track 2 [T02]; play the keys.

They should play the Halo/external synth module on channel 2.

======================================================
RECORD A PATTERN ON THE XL-7 SEQUENCER ROUTED TO THE EXTERNAL GEAR:

Your Command Station/P2500 should now be set up to function as a 
stand alone hardware sequencer which: 
(1) records data from the keyboard (Halo in Local off mode) and
(2) sends the data to the synth module (Halo's sound module) based 
on the track/channel selected in the display.

======================================================
NOTES:

You can do a whole lot more, but these are the basics. 
Remember, each track can actually hold data on 16 channels.
To record using sounds in a CS/P2500 ROM, set the channel assign to 
internal.
To double the sound, set the channel assign to both.
Remember, your programmable knobs (controllers) can be set to: int, 
ext, both, seq. 
--If you want to record controller knob changes, use seq.  This will 
also send it to the Halo/external gear.
--If you want to play the knobs in realtime performance, but not 
record them into the sequencer, use int, ext, or both depending on 
your needs.
--Also, remember: programmable knob settings are saved with multis. 

Hope this helps. If I've ommitted anything or made any errors, 
please post and I will make corrections.
 
 --Steve
 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "miltrezs_xl7" <miltrezs_xl7@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi there. I am primarily just a musician who wants to do recording 
> of my material using this XL-7 I purchased a few months back. Can 
> some of you gurus out there give me a heads up on the way to get 
the 
> Multi-Setups correct so I can accomplish this. I am having trouble 
> with I guess the way I am turning Midi channels on and off and 
> whether they are local or not. Heres my setup:
> 
> EMU/Ensoniq HALO 
> * PHATT ROM installed
> * VINTAGE ROM installed
> * COMPOSER ROM installed
> 
> EMU XL7
> * BEAT GARDEN ROM installed
> 
> I understand how I select different sounds for different channels 
as 
> i use that consistently to quickly switch between patches during 
> performances. I just can't seem to get it straight on how to set 
the 

> XL-7 to record what I play on the HALO and also the tracks where I 
> would like the keys I play on the HALO to trigger the XL7 based 
> sounds as well. 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated greatly.

A few additional notes on using the template (all tracks set up to 
control external gear):

(1) Place the data on the track (eg controller volume data) BEFORE 
changing the channel assignment to external.

(2) If you erase an entire track, the channel assignment will go 
back to internal and will have to be changed back to external.

(3) If you want one of your track to be used for the CS/P2500's 
internal sounds, simply erase the track before recording on it.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:

> 
> Primary Task: With the E-Mu sequencer (Command Stations, P2500),
> to record data for pass through to external gear.

Also realize that tracks A1-A16 are designated for the internal sequencer,
and B1-B16 are designated for external gear.

 

Cheers,

Andre

 

  _____  

From: steve_the_composer [mailto:smw-mail@...] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:45 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Setup for Sequencing Hell

 


I started a reply this AM, but didn't have time to complete and test 
it.  It should get you started on the right track (pardon the pun).  
I know this has been addressed before in the archives, but I cannot 
recall what keyword to use to search the archives.

Perhaps others can fill in the details.

======================================================
SUMMARY:

Two key E-Mu features to understand and master:
(1) Rechannelize
(2) CHANNEL ASSIGN (channel and destination)

Also, midi routing is important. How are your midi ins and outs 
connected between the halo and the XL-7?

======================================================
ROUTING ISSUE:

I used the following setup:

Keyboard (controller only)
to
E-Mu sequencer
to
external gear--sound mudule(s)

It sounds like you are doing something similar only the Halo is both 
your keyboard and sound module.  Although I haven't done this, try 
the following:

Set Halo to Local Control off.
Send midi out of Halo to XL-7 midi in
Send midi out of XL-7 to Halo midi in

Make sure Halo is not merging midi in and sending it back out 
(dreaded midi feefback loop--ugggh!)

If I have this right, the Halo keys should not be playing the Halo 
synth engine, but the keystrokes should be going to the XL-7.

======================================================
RECHANNELIZE:

Turn RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: to always (MIDI menu system).

On XL-7 select pattern view.

On the XL-7, select Track 1 [T01] in the upper left corner of the 
display. Play the keys.  Assuming Halo is in Mutitimbral mode, the 
keys should play the Halo synth engine on channel 1 via the XL-7's 
rechannelize function.

[more needed here]

======================================================
RECORD DESTINATION (CHANNEL ASSIGN):

[more needed here]



======================================================

Hope this gets you started.

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "miltrezs_xl7" <miltrezs_xl7@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi there. I am primarily just a musician who wants to do recording 
> of my material using this XL-7 I purchased a few months back. Can 
> some of you gurus out there give me a heads up on the way to get 
the 
> Multi-Setups correct so I can accomplish this. I am having trouble 
> with I guess the way I am turning Midi channels on and off and 
> whether they are local or not. Heres my setup:
> 
> EMU/Ensoniq HALO 
> * PHATT ROM installed
> * VINTAGE ROM installed
> * COMPOSER ROM installed
> 
> EMU XL7
> * BEAT GARDEN ROM installed
> 
> I understand how I select different sounds for different channels 
as 
> i use that consistently to quickly switch between patches during 
> performances. I just can't seem to get it straight on how to set 
the 
> XL-7 to record what I play on the HALO and also the tracks where I 
> would like the keys I play on the HALO to trigger the XL7 based 
> sounds as well. 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated greatly.






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I know there are some differences between the two sets of 
channels/ports (Port A out and Port B out), but I don't think this 
is one of them as far as channel assign goes. 

Channel assign can be used to designate each track to:
-- 16 channels on Port A [MultiA]
-- 16 channels on Port B [MultiB]
-- any of 32 single channels [01A --> 16B]

I seem to recall Aaron mentioning some of the differences between 
the two sets of channels--perhaps that the 16 controller knobs in 
Volume and Pan mode only affect internal sounds on Channels 01A --> 
16A, but not 01B --> 16B and not external gear on either midi port.

However, there is more flexibility with the knobs in programmable 
mode.

Thanks for the reminder, Andre. 

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> Also realize that tracks A1-A16 are designated for the internal
> sequencer, and B1-B16 are designated for external gear.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andre
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: steve_the_composer [mailto:smw-mail@p...] 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:45 AM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Re: Setup for Sequencing Hell
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I started a reply this AM, but didn't have time to complete and 
test 
> it.  It should get you started on the right track (pardon the 
pun).  
> I know this has been addressed before in the archives, but I 
cannot 
> recall what keyword to use to search the archives.
> 
> Perhaps others can fill in the details.
> 
> ======================================================
> SUMMARY:
> 
> Two key E-Mu features to understand and master:
> (1) Rechannelize
> (2) CHANNEL ASSIGN (channel and destination)
> 
> Also, midi routing is important. How are your midi ins and outs 
> connected between the halo and the XL-7?
> 
> ======================================================
> ROUTING ISSUE:
> 
> I used the following setup:
> 
> Keyboard (controller only)
> to
> E-Mu sequencer
> to
> external gear--sound mudule(s)
> 
> It sounds like you are doing something similar only the Halo is 
both 
> your keyboard and sound module.  Although I haven't done this, try 
> the following:
> 
> Set Halo to Local Control off.
> Send midi out of Halo to XL-7 midi in
> Send midi out of XL-7 to Halo midi in
> 
> Make sure Halo is not merging midi in and sending it back out 
> (dreaded midi feefback loop--ugggh!)
> 
> If I have this right, the Halo keys should not be playing the Halo 
> synth engine, but the keystrokes should be going to the XL-7.
> 
> ======================================================
> RECHANNELIZE:
> 
> Turn RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: to always (MIDI menu 
system).
> 
> On XL-7 select pattern view.
> 
> On the XL-7, select Track 1 [T01] in the upper left corner of the 
> display. Play the keys.  Assuming Halo is in Mutitimbral mode, the 
> keys should play the Halo synth engine on channel 1 via the XL-7's 
> rechannelize function.
> 
> [more needed here]
> 
> ======================================================
> RECORD DESTINATION (CHANNEL ASSIGN):
> 
> [more needed here]
> 
> 
> 
> ======================================================
> 
> Hope this gets you started.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "miltrezs_xl7" <miltrezs_xl7@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Hi there. I am primarily just a musician who wants to do 
recording 
> > of my material using this XL-7 I purchased a few months back. 
Can 
> > some of you gurus out there give me a heads up on the way to get 
> the 
> > Multi-Setups correct so I can accomplish this. I am having 
trouble 
> > with I guess the way I am turning Midi channels on and off and 
> > whether they are local or not. Heres my setup:
> > 
> > EMU/Ensoniq HALO 
> > * PHATT ROM installed
> > * VINTAGE ROM installed
> > * COMPOSER ROM installed
> > 
> > EMU XL7
> > * BEAT GARDEN ROM installed
> > 
> > I understand how I select different sounds for different 
channels 
> as 
> > i use that consistently to quickly switch between patches during 
> > performances. I just can't seem to get it straight on how to set 
> the 
> > XL-7 to record what I play on the HALO and also the tracks where 
I 

> > would like the keys I play on the HALO to trigger the XL7 based 
> > sounds as well. 
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated greatly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I have about five sound modules and would like to
setup the XL-7 to trigger each module since a friend
of mine who's a drummer has been making tracks with
me(those pads are working great!) how would I assign
different midi channels coming out of 1-16B and is the
midi very tight? 

thanks
 
--- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:


---------------------------------

I know there are some differences between the two sets
of 
channels/ports (Port A out and Port B out), but I
don't think this 
is one of them as far as channel assign goes. 

Channel assign can be used to designate each track to:
-- 16 channels on Port A [MultiA]
-- 16 channels on Port B [MultiB]
-- any of 32 single channels [01A --> 16B]

I seem to recall Aaron mentioning some of the
differences between 
the two sets of channels--perhaps that the 16
controller knobs in 
Volume and Pan mode only affect internal sounds on
Channels 01A --> 
16A, but not 01B --> 16B and not external gear on
either midi port.

However, there is more flexibility with the knobs in
programmable 
mode.

Thanks for the reminder, Andre. 

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis"
<andrel@s...> wrote:
> Also realize that tracks A1-A16 are designated for
the internal
> sequencer, and B1-B16 are designated for external
gear.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andre
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: steve_the_composer [mailto:smw-mail@p...] 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:45 AM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Re: Setup for Sequencing Hell
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I started a reply this AM, but didn't have time to
complete and 
test 
> it.  It should get you started on the right track
(pardon the 
pun).  
> I know this has been addressed before in the
archives, but I 
cannot 
> recall what keyword to use to search the archives.
> 
> Perhaps others can fill in the details.
> 
>
======================================================
> SUMMARY:
> 
> Two key E-Mu features to understand and master:
> (1) Rechannelize
> (2) CHANNEL ASSIGN (channel and destination)
> 
> Also, midi routing is important. How are your midi
ins and outs 
> connected between the halo and the XL-7?
> 
>
======================================================
> ROUTING ISSUE:
> 
> I used the following setup:
> 
> Keyboard (controller only)
> to
> E-Mu sequencer
> to
> external gear--sound mudule(s)
> 
> It sounds like you are doing something similar only
the Halo is 
both 
> your keyboard and sound module.  Although I haven't
done this, try 
> the following:
> 
> Set Halo to Local Control off.
> Send midi out of Halo to XL-7 midi in
> Send midi out of XL-7 to Halo midi in
> 
> Make sure Halo is not merging midi in and sending it
back out 
> (dreaded midi feefback loop--ugggh!)
> 
> If I have this right, the Halo keys should not be
playing the Halo 
> synth engine, but the keystrokes should be going to
the XL-7.
> 
>
======================================================
> RECHANNELIZE:
> 
> Turn RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: to always
(MIDI menu 
system).
> 
> On XL-7 select pattern view.
> 
> On the XL-7, select Track 1 [T01] in the upper left
corner of the 
> display. Play the keys.  Assuming Halo is in
Mutitimbral mode, the 
> keys should play the Halo synth engine on channel 1
via the XL-7's 
> rechannelize function.
> 
> [more needed here]
> 
>
======================================================
> RECORD DESTINATION (CHANNEL ASSIGN):
> 
> [more needed here]
> 
> 
> 
>
======================================================
> 
> Hope this gets you started.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "miltrezs_xl7"
<miltrezs_xl7@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Hi there. I am primarily just a musician who wants
to do 
recording 
> > of my material using this XL-7 I purchased a few
months back. 
Can 
> > some of you gurus out there give me a heads up on
the way to get 
> the 
> > Multi-Setups correct so I can accomplish this. I
am having 
trouble 
> > with I guess the way I am turning Midi channels on
and off and 
> > whether they are local or not. Heres my setup:
> > 
> > EMU/Ensoniq HALO 
> > * PHATT ROM installed
> > * VINTAGE ROM installed
> > * COMPOSER ROM installed
> > 
> > EMU XL7
> > * BEAT GARDEN ROM installed
> > 
> > I understand how I select different sounds for
different 
channels 
> as 
> > i use that consistently to quickly switch between
patches during 
> > performances. I just can't seem to get it straight
on how to set 
> the 
> > XL-7 to record what I play on the HALO and also
the tracks where 
I 
> > would like the keys I play on the HALO to trigger
the XL7 based 
> > sounds as well. 
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated greatly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I will let others comment on the tightness issue.

Follow the hierarchy:
Sequencer [one per E-Mu Command Station/P2500--not counting arps, 
riffs, and beats]
--pattern [128 slots x 8 banks] 
----track [16 tracks per pattern]
------midi channel [16 channels per track]

The E-Mu Command Station/P2500 sequencer works in pattern mode and 
song mode. Each pattern has CHANNEL ASSIGN data stored with it. For 
each pattern you can have up to 16 tracks.

With CHANNEL ASSIGN [T01 --> T16] you can set the Destination to:
none, 
the internal synth, 
external gear, 
both the internal synth and external gear.

Also, with CHANNEL ASSIGN [T01 --> T16] you can set the Channel to:
MultiA
MultiB
01A --> 16B

Each track can have data on up to 16 midi channels. 

If you have a multitimbral synth on MIDI PORT A, by setting a 
particular track to MultiA, you will send all the data on that track 
(up to 16 channels) to that synth.

If you dedicate each of 5 different synths to a single channel, you 
can send track data to one specific synth by setting it to the 
channel that synth receives.

If your 5 synth modules are all multitimbral, you might be able to 
configure them to only accept data on certain channels. For example:

Module 1: channels 1 -> 4
Module 2: channels 5 -> 8
Module 3: channels 9 -> 12
Module 4: channels 13 -> 14
Module 5: channels 15 -> 16

If you have a midi router, you >> MIGHT << have less "midi delay" 
than if you daisy chain the synths using midi thrus. Midi delays 
from daisy chaining may not be an issue, however.

You may want to make a multisetup for a particular studio 
configuration (5 modules), give it a memorable name, and save the 
multisetup.

Keep in mind, you can also send arps out via the midi ports to 
control external gear, so you can use the 16 buttons as arp triggers 
for sounds on your external gear.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:

> I have about five sound modules and would like to
> setup the XL-7 to trigger each module since a friend
> of mine who's a drummer has been making tracks with
> me(those pads are working great!) how would I assign
> different midi channels coming out of 1-16B and is the
> midi very tight? 
> 
> thanks

> I seem to recall Aaron mentioning some of the differences between 
> the two sets of channels--perhaps that the 16 controller knobs in 
> Volume and Pan mode only affect internal sounds on Channels 01A --> 
> 16A, but not 01B --> 16B and not external gear on either midi port.
> 

Actually they will affect external gear, but only on the "A" output.  
Same as the internal synth.  You just have to route it to EXT instead 
of INT.

Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
appreciate it! one question though how do I get
1-16b(external synths) to play along with 1-16a(my
patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
multi/pattern mode? 

thanks
Brock
 
--- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:


---------------------------------

I will let others comment on the tightness issue.

Follow the hierarchy:
Sequencer [one per E-Mu Command Station/P2500--not
counting arps, 
riffs, and beats]
--pattern [128 slots x 8 banks] 
----track [16 tracks per pattern]
------midi channel [16 channels per track]

The E-Mu Command Station/P2500 sequencer works in
pattern mode and 
song mode. Each pattern has CHANNEL ASSIGN data stored
with it. For 
each pattern you can have up to 16 tracks.

With CHANNEL ASSIGN [T01 --> T16] you can set the
Destination to:
none, 
the internal synth, 
external gear, 
both the internal synth and external gear.

Also, with CHANNEL ASSIGN [T01 --> T16] you can set
the Channel to:
MultiA
MultiB
01A --> 16B

Each track can have data on up to 16 midi channels. 

If you have a multitimbral synth on MIDI PORT A, by
setting a 
particular track to MultiA, you will send all the data
on that track 
(up to 16 channels) to that synth.

If you dedicate each of 5 different synths to a single
channel, you 
can send track data to one specific synth by setting
it to the 
channel that synth receives.

If your 5 synth modules are all multitimbral, you
might be able to 
configure them to only accept data on certain
channels. For example:

Module 1: channels 1 -> 4
Module 2: channels 5 -> 8
Module 3: channels 9 -> 12
Module 4: channels 13 -> 14
Module 5: channels 15 -> 16

If you have a midi router, you >> MIGHT << have less
"midi delay" 
than if you daisy chain the synths using midi thrus.
Midi delays 
from daisy chaining may not be an issue, however.

You may want to make a multisetup for a particular
studio 
configuration (5 modules), give it a memorable name,
and save the 
multisetup.

Keep in mind, you can also send arps out via the midi
ports to 
control external gear, so you can use the 16 buttons
as arp triggers 
for sounds on your external gear.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> I have about five sound modules and would like to
> setup the XL-7 to trigger each module since a friend
> of mine who's a drummer has been making tracks with
> me(those pads are working great!) how would I assign
> different midi channels coming out of 1-16B and is
the
> midi very tight? 
> 
> thanks






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On 1/29/05 12:04 PM, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@...> wrote:

> Also realize that tracks A1-A16 are designated for the internal sequencer,
> and B1-B16 are designated for external gear.

Well, the sequencer has 16 tracks. Each track can be assigned to MultiA,
Multi B, or any of the 32 channels between MIDI Out A and MIDI Out B.

By default the A1-A16 channels are set to INT for the internal synth, but
this can be changed in the pattern edit menu to EXT for any of the available
channels and INT or EXT as needed, and then this info is saved with the
pattrn. So it's not like external gear can only be on the MIDI Out B -
that's just how it is by default.

Right? Or am I missing something. I've been using my XL-7s in this way for a
while now without ever encountering any restrictions on track destination...
--
Mibrilane

okay how do I program/record on 1-16B using just the
midi pads and not trigger the sounds from 1-16a? I
want to be able to hear the sounds of my outboard gear
on the pads w/o the internal sounds of the Xl-7...I
turned 1-16a to INT and 1-16b to ext and I still get
playback from 1-16a.....also since I've changed to
recording on the back 1-16b channels howcome the
tracks on 1-16a are still lit up in the in the command
functions section

thanks guys
   
--- Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:


---------------------------------
On 1/29/05 12:04 PM, "Andre Lewis"
<andrel@...> wrote:

> Also realize that tracks A1-A16 are designated for
the internal sequencer,
> and B1-B16 are designated for external gear.

Well, the sequencer has 16 tracks. Each track can be
assigned to MultiA,
Multi B, or any of the 32 channels between MIDI Out A
and MIDI Out B.

By default the A1-A16 channels are set to INT for the
internal synth, but
this can be changed in the pattern edit menu to EXT
for any of the available
channels and INT or EXT as needed, and then this info
is saved with the
pattrn. So it's not like external gear can only be on
the MIDI Out B -
that's just how it is by default.

Right? Or am I missing something. I've been using my
XL-7s in this way for a
while now without ever encountering any restrictions
on track destination...
--
Mibrilane




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On 1/30/05 8:43 PM, "Brock Hiroshima" <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:

> okay how do I program/record on 1-16B using just the midi pads and not trigger
> the sounds from 1-16a? I want to be able to hear the sounds of my outboard
> gear on the pads w/o the internal sounds of the Xl-7...I turned 1-16a to INT
> and 1-16b to ext and I still get playback from 1-16a.....also since I've
> changed to recording on the back 1-16b channels howcome the tracks on 1-16a
> are still lit up in the in the command functions section

Sounds like you've got rechannelize off. Turn it on in the MIDI menu. Also,
make sure your Keyboard Channel is set to "Basic" in the CONTROLLERS menu.
If it is set to a specific channel, rechannelize won't affect it.

Tracks 1-16 are always lit in the command functions section - there are 16
tracks. Each track can be set to its own output destination - A or B port,
internal or external.

Example:  Tracks 1-3 are internal sounds, Track 4 is an external sound on
channel 1 on the synth connected to port B.

Going into Pattern Edit, I scroll to the CHANNEL ASSIGN screen, make sure it
says T04 in the left corner. If not I scroll to it with the Track/Channel
buttons. I change the Channel: to "01B" and the Dest: to "ext".

In the MIDI menu, Rechannelize should be "always". Both the keyboard and the
knobs should be set to transmit MIDI.

Now, when I select Track 4, it will play my external synth connected to Port
B on MIDI channel 1. Button number 4 in the Command Functions section will
mute and un-mute this track. Pretty darn nifty, eh?

The Command Station sequencer seems a bit strange at first, but having used
quite a few other hardware sequencers, I find it to be a nice blend of
simplicity and flexibility. Everything is routable somewhere, but setting
things up initially is pretty easy and as you see, quite logical. I strongly
suggest reading the manual if you haven't - it's one of the better manuals
out there and it explains the sequencer very well!
--
Mibrilane

On 1/31/05 12:29 AM, "Mibrilane" <mibrilane@...> wrote:

> In the MIDI menu, Rechannelize should be "always". Both the keyboard and the
> knobs should be set to transmit MIDI.

Actually, no, I meant the exact opposite of this. Rechannelize should be on,
but "keyboard transmits MIDI" should be off - knobs too. This can override
the Rechannelize feature if they're on. When this is off, the knobs will
transmit according to what is set in the track's channel assignment screen.

Bleah - have I made it confusing enough? Time to go to sleep.
--
Mibrilane

Since I have read this mail I 'm doubting about having 32 tracks sequenced in my xl7. Is it possible for example to sequence 16 internal tracks to midi A and 16 others tracks to midi B. I think it isn't because of the pattern edit show only 16 " canal ".
Is there a way to do what i want selecting in this last menu C1A : Multi A and C2A : Multi B?
Thanks for your reply.
 


Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:
On 1/30/05 8:43 PM, "Brock Hiroshima" <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:

> okay how do I program/record on 1-16B using just the midi pads and not trigger
> the sounds from 1-16a? I want to be able to hear the sounds of my outboard
> gear on the pads w/o the internal sounds of the Xl-7...I turned 1-16a to INT
> and 1-16b to ext and I still get playback from 1-16a.....also since I've
> changed to recording on the back 1-16b channels howcome the tracks on 1-16a
> are still lit up in the in the command functions section

Sounds like you've got rechannelize off. Turn it on in the MIDI menu. Also,
make sure your Keyboard Channel is set to "Basic" in the CONTROLLERS menu.
If it is set to a specific channel, rechannelize won't affect it.

Tracks 1-16 are always lit in the command functions section - there are 16
tracks. Each track can be set to its own output destination - A or B port,
internal or external.

Example:  Tracks 1-3 are internal sounds, Track 4 is an external sound on
channel 1 on the synth connected to port B.

Going into Pattern Edit, I scroll to the CHANNEL ASSIGN screen, make sure it
says T04 in the left corner. If not I scroll to it with the Track/Channel
buttons. I change the Channel: to "01B" and the Dest: to "ext".

In the MIDI menu, Rechannelize should be "always". Both the keyboard and the
knobs should be set to transmit MIDI.

Now, when I select Track 4, it will play my external synth connected to Port
B on MIDI channel 1. Button number 4 in the Command Functions section will
mute and un-mute this track. Pretty darn nifty, eh?

The Command Station sequencer seems a bit strange at first, but having used
quite a few other hardware sequencers, I find it to be a nice blend of
simplicity and flexibility. Everything is routable somewhere, but setting
things up initially is pretty easy and as you see, quite logical. I strongly
suggest reading the manual if you haven't - it's one of the better manuals
out there and it explains the sequencer very well!
--
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The XL-7 spec and the manual say it is there is a 16 channel sequencer so you can't have 32 channels sequenced.  You get to choose which 16 of the 32 available midi channels you wish to use............

Bob
Corona/Riverside, CA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Setup for Sequencing Hell


  Since I have read this mail I 'm doubting about having 32 tracks sequenced in my xl7. Is it possible for example to sequence 16 internal tracks to midi A and 16 others tracks to midi B. I think it isn't because of the pattern edit show only 16 " canal ".
  Is there a way to do what i want selecting in this last menu C1A : Multi A and C2A : Multi B?
  Thanks for your reply.



  Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:
  On 1/30/05 8:43 PM, "Brock Hiroshima" <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:

  > okay how do I program/record on 1-16B using just the midi pads and not trigger
  > the sounds from 1-16a? I want to be able to hear the sounds of my outboard
  > gear on the pads w/o the internal sounds of the Xl-7...I turned 1-16a to INT
  > and 1-16b to ext and I still get playback from 1-16a.....also since I've
  > changed to recording on the back 1-16b channels howcome the tracks on 1-16a
  > are still lit up in the in the command functions section

  Sounds like you've got rechannelize off. Turn it on in the MIDI menu. Also,
  make sure your Keyboard Channel is set to "Basic" in the CONTROLLERS menu.
  If it is set to a specific channel, rechannelize won't affect it.

  Tracks 1-16 are always lit in the command functions section - there are 16
  tracks. Each track can be set to its own output destination - A or B port,
  internal or external.

  Example:  Tracks 1-3 are internal sounds, Track 4 is an external sound on
  channel 1 on the synth connected to port B.

  Going into Pattern Edit, I scroll to the CHANNEL ASSIGN screen, make sure it
  says T04 in the left corner. If not I scroll to it with the Track/Channel
  buttons. I change the Channel: to "01B" and the Dest: to "ext".

  In the MIDI menu, Rechannelize should be "always". Both the keyboard and the
  knobs should be set to transmit MIDI.

  Now, when I select Track 4, it will play my external synth connected to Port
  B on MIDI channel 1. Button number 4 in the Command Functions section will
  mute and un-mute this track. Pretty darn nifty, eh?

  The Command Station sequencer seems a bit strange at first, but having used
  quite a few other hardware sequencers, I find it to be a nice blend of
  simplicity and flexibility. Everything is routable somewhere, but setting
  things up initially is pretty easy and as you see, quite logical. I strongly
  suggest reading the manual if you haven't - it's one of the better manuals
  out there and it explains the sequencer very well!
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On 1/31/05 5:28 AM, "BEAUFILS Adrien" <fatalojyxvsfacial@...> wrote:

> Since I have read this mail I 'm doubting about having 32 tracks sequenced in
> my xl7. Is it possible for example to sequence 16 internal tracks to midi A
> and 16 others tracks to midi B. I think it isn't because of the pattern edit
> show only 16 " canal ". Is there a way to do what i want selecting in this
> last menu C1A : Multi A and C2A : Multi B? Thanks for your reply.

There are only 16 tracks. But, you CAN sequence all 32 MIDI channels by
making use of the Multi channels - Multi A can record all 16 channels onto
one track, as can Multi B. You can "bounce" sequencer data from individual
tracks into a single Multi track using the data copy function - this is
described in the manual.

--
Mibrilane

Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure what you mean 
by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode." Could you clarify?

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:

> Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> 1-16b(external synths) to play along with 1-16a(my
> patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> multi/pattern mode? 
> 
> thanks
> Brock

This is consistent with my experience with the P2500.  And as you 
probably found out, if you erase an entire track (so it has no 
data), OS 2.0 will set the track to the default CHANNEL ASSIGN.

--Steve 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:

> On 1/29/05 12:04 PM, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> Well, the sequencer has 16 tracks. Each track can be assigned to
> MultiA, Multi B, or any of the 32 channels between MIDI Out A and
> MIDI Out B.
> 
> By default the A1-A16 channels are set to INT for the internal
> synth, but this can be changed in the pattern edit menu to EXT for
> any of the available channels and INT or EXT as needed, and then
> this info is saved with the pattrn. So it's not like external gear
> can only be on the MIDI Out B - that's just how it is by default.
> 
> Right? Or am I missing something. I've been using my XL-7s in this
> way for a while now without ever encountering any restrictions on
> track destination...
> --
> Mibrilane

Since I have the P2500, I will defer to others on this--I don't have 
pads. I use external controllers. 

One of the flow charts from one of the OS Addendas shows the logical 
flow of the pads.  Perhaps it is the latest XL-7 manual. This might 
help. There are two paths for the pads--one through the KEYBOARD 
TRANSMIT MIDI (on/off) menu, the other through LOCAL CONTROL.

The synth engine seems to get data from the pads (1) when 
RECHANNELIZE is off and (2) when set to int via Sequencer Track 
Routing.

It would seem that if you have RECHANNELIZE to always and route a 
particular track to external gear, only the external gear should 
sound from the pads. The chart does not lead me to believe the pads 
are hardwired to either the internal synth engine or to channels 1-
16A.  However, I will gladly defer to Command Station owners.

Again, since I have the P2500, I can't test this, but based on the 
chart, this might be what you are looking for. 

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:

> okay how do I program/record on 1-16B using just the
> midi pads and not trigger the sounds from 1-16a? I
> want to be able to hear the sounds of my outboard gear
> on the pads w/o the internal sounds of the Xl-7...I
> turned 1-16a to INT and 1-16b to ext and I still get
> playback from 1-16a.....also since I've changed to
> recording on the back 1-16b channels howcome the
> tracks on 1-16a are still lit up in the in the command
> functions section
> 
> thanks guys
>    
> --- Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:

I wondered about this, but the flow chart I have does not show the 
KEYBOARD TRANSMIT MIDI setting going to the synth engine. It may be 
that the chart was revised or that it is in error.

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:

[snip]

> but "keyboard transmits MIDI" should be off - knobs too. This can
> override the Rechannelize feature if they're on.

[snip]

(1) In pattern edit, you edit tracks.  You have 16 internal tracks 
total.

(2) Each track can hold data on 16 midi channels.

(3) With CHANNEL ASSIGN, you can override where the data will be 
sent.

Remember, on e-mu sequencers tracks and channels are different 
things.  So, you are correct--you only have 16 [internal] tracks. 
But, you can route the data on each track to different places:

Channel Routings:
(1) an individual channel (01A -> 16B)
(2) all 16 channels (MultiA, MultiB)

Destination Routings:
(1) internal synth engine
(2) external (midi ports)
(3) bother internal and external
(4) none
 
Some multi-timbral examples using just track 3:
====================================
Example 1:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: 03B    Dest:int

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the internal synth engine 
and will play the preset selected on channel 3B.
====================================
Example 2:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: 05A    Dest:int

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the internal synth engine 
and will play the preset selected on channel 5A.
====================================
Example 3:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: 08B    Dest:ext

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the external gear 
connected to port B that responds to data on channel 8.
====================================
Example 4:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: MultiB    Dest:int

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the internal synth engine 
and will play the presets selected on channel 1B through 16B.
====================================
Example 5:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: MultiA    Dest:both

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to (1) the internal synth 
engine and will play the presets selected on channel 1A through 16A 
and (2) external gear connected to port A that responds to data on 
channels 1 though 16.
====================================
Example 6:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: MultiB    Dest:none

--> all data on TRACK 3 won't go anywhere, but it is still stored as 
part of the pattern.
====================================

Not to confuse things, but if you have another sequencer (harware or 
software) or other gear that generates midi clock data (such as an 
intelligent arranger), you can have additional external tracks.  But 
that is another whole range of issues.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, BEAUFILS Adrien <fatalojyxvsfacial@y...> 
wrote:
> Since I have read this mail I 'm doubting about having 32 tracks 
sequenced in my xl7. Is it possible for example to sequence 16 
internal tracks to midi A and 16 others tracks to midi B. I think it 
isn't because of the pattern edit show only 16 " canal ".
> Is there a way to do what i want selecting in this last menu C1A : 
Multi A and C2A : Multi B?
> Thanks for your reply.

Excellent point. 

(1) Record 12 tracks of data in a pattern so that Track 1 has data 
on channel 1, Track 2 has data on channel 2, Track 3 has data on 
channel 3, etc.

(2) "Bounce" all of the tracks to a single track, Track 14 for 
example.

(3) Set that new track that contains data on channels 1-->12 to 
MultiA internal (CHANNEL ASSIGN).

(4) Erase the original tracks.

(5) Record 12 more tracks of data in the pattern so that Track 1 has 
data on channel 1, Track 2 has data on channel 2, Track 3 has data 
on channel 3, etc.

(6) "Bounce" all of the tracks to another single track, Track 15 for 
example.

(7) Set that new track that contains data on channels 1-->12 to 
MultiB internal (CHANNEL ASSIGN).

(8) Erase the original tracks.

Viola--32 channels using only 2 tracks--in this example, Tracks 14 
and 15.

REMINDER: 128 voice polyphony refers to the number of LAYERS 
sounding at a given moment!!!! So, if you have 32 notes sounding at 
the same time all on 4 layer-presets, that's 128 voices. 
Fortunately, the voices are dynamically assigned.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:

> You can "bounce" sequencer data from individual
> tracks into a single Multi track using the data copy function -
> this is described in the manual.
> 
> --
> Mibrilane

Thank you steve, that will help me. Since i have a new midi device ( an E5000 ultra ) i was quite confused with these differents modes. In fact , i have always change the track number to record in multimode instead of the canal number.
Tchao.

steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:

(1) In pattern edit, you edit tracks.  You have 16 internal tracks 
total.

(2) Each track can hold data on 16 midi channels.

(3) With CHANNEL ASSIGN, you can override where the data will be 
sent.

Remember, on e-mu sequencers tracks and channels are different 
things.  So, you are correct--you only have 16 [internal] tracks. 
But, you can route the data on each track to different places:

Channel Routings:
(1) an individual channel (01A -> 16B)
(2) all 16 channels (MultiA, MultiB)

Destination Routings:
(1) internal synth engine
(2) external (midi ports)
(3) bother internal and external
(4) none

Some multi-timbral examples using just track 3:
====================================
Example 1:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: 03B    Dest:int

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the internal synth engine 
and will play the preset selected on channel 3B.
====================================
Example 2:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: 05A    Dest:int

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the internal synth engine 
and will play the preset selected on channel 5A.
====================================
Example 3:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: 08B    Dest:ext

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the external gear 
connected to port B that responds to data on channel 8.
====================================
Example 4:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: MultiB    Dest:int

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to the internal synth engine 
and will play the presets selected on channel 1B through 16B.
====================================
Example 5:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: MultiA    Dest:both

--> all data on TRACK 3 will be routed to (1) the internal synth 
engine and will play the presets selected on channel 1A through 16A 
and (2) external gear connected to port A that responds to data on 
channels 1 though 16.
====================================
Example 6:

T03 CHANNEL ASSIGN
Channel: MultiB    Dest:none

--> all data on TRACK 3 won't go anywhere, but it is still stored as 
part of the pattern.
====================================

Not to confuse things, but if you have another sequencer (harware or 
software) or other gear that generates midi clock data (such as an 
intelligent arranger), you can have additional external tracks.  But 
that is another whole range of issues.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, BEAUFILS Adrien <fatalojyxvsfacial@y...> 
wrote:
> Since I have read this mail I 'm doubting about having 32 tracks 
sequenced in my xl7. Is it possible for example to sequence 16 
internal tracks to midi A and 16 others tracks to midi B. I think it 
isn't because of the pattern edit show only 16 " canal ".
> Is there a way to do what i want selecting in this last menu C1A : 
Multi A and C2A : Multi B?
> Thanks for your reply.






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Thank you Mibrilane , I think i will stay with on track per channel on my machine and play in omni or multi mode with my new midi device ( an e5000 ultra that allow you to choice with this differents modes ) in fonction of what i want to do with this last ( drumkit pads or synth engine ).
Tchao.

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
The XL-7 spec and the manual say it is there is a 16 channel sequencer so you can't have 32 channels sequenced.  You get to choose which 16 of the 32 available midi channels you wish to use............

Bob
Corona/Riverside, CA

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  From: BEAUFILS Adrien 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Setup for Sequencing Hell


  Since I have read this mail I 'm doubting about having 32 tracks sequenced in my xl7. Is it possible for example to sequence 16 internal tracks to midi A and 16 others tracks to midi B. I think it isn't because of the pattern edit show only 16 " canal ".
  Is there a way to do what i want selecting in this last menu C1A : Multi A and C2A : Multi B?
  Thanks for your reply.



  Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:
  On 1/30/05 8:43 PM, "Brock Hiroshima" <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:

  > okay how do I program/record on 1-16B using just the midi pads and not trigger
  > the sounds from 1-16a? I want to be able to hear the sounds of my outboard
  > gear on the pads w/o the internal sounds of the Xl-7...I turned 1-16a to INT
  > and 1-16b to ext and I still get playback from 1-16a.....also since I've
  > changed to recording on the back 1-16b channels howcome the tracks on 1-16a
  > are still lit up in the in the command functions section

  Sounds like you've got rechannelize off. Turn it on in the MIDI menu. Also,
  make sure your Keyboard Channel is set to "Basic" in the CONTROLLERS menu.
  If it is set to a specific channel, rechannelize won't affect it.

  Tracks 1-16 are always lit in the command functions section - there are 16
  tracks. Each track can be set to its own output destination - A or B port,
  internal or external.

  Example:  Tracks 1-3 are internal sounds, Track 4 is an external sound on
  channel 1 on the synth connected to port B.

  Going into Pattern Edit, I scroll to the CHANNEL ASSIGN screen, make sure it
  says T04 in the left corner. If not I scroll to it with the Track/Channel
  buttons. I change the Channel: to "01B" and the Dest: to "ext".

  In the MIDI menu, Rechannelize should be "always". Both the keyboard and the
  knobs should be set to transmit MIDI.

  Now, when I select Track 4, it will play my external synth connected to Port
  B on MIDI channel 1. Button number 4 in the Command Functions section will
  mute and un-mute this track. Pretty darn nifty, eh?

  The Command Station sequencer seems a bit strange at first, but having used
  quite a few other hardware sequencers, I find it to be a nice blend of
  simplicity and flexibility. Everything is routable somewhere, but setting
  things up initially is pretty easy and as you see, quite logical. I strongly
  suggest reading the manual if you haven't - it's one of the better manuals
  out there and it explains the sequencer very well!
  --
  Mibrilane




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I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with the
track I was working with and its great now being able
to use my external gear.....but the track layout is a
bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b tracks
is kind of misleading since you don't get to see them
layed out and lit up in the command functions buttons
for punching in/out for live playing/sequencing....it
shows this is more for production than for live
playing....it might be easier just to route 3 tracks
say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have the
ability to punch them in/out without having to jump in
the menu.....

I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
would like to experiment and maybe eventually use it
live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7 to
control my other synth engines so I could use command
functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want the
Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
though.....ideally this would be cool so I would have
32 tracks total to work with in front of me and have a
sampler to work with.....would this be an easy task?
or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....

thanks
Brock


--- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:


---------------------------------

Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure what
you mean 
by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode." Could
you clarify?

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> 1-16b(external synths) to play along with 1-16a(my
> patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> multi/pattern mode? 
> 
> thanks
> Brock






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I've said this a few times before, but the new guys haven't heard it
yet, apparently, so:

Get your head around TRACKS versus CHANNELS.

They ARE NOT the same thing.

The sequencer has 16 TRACKS.  The synthesiser has 32 CHANNELS.  The
MIDI outputs can address 32 CHANNELS.

You record into a TRACK.  TRACKS play CHANNEL(s).

TRACKS can go to a single CHANNEL or a bank of 16 CHANNELS, either
internally, externally, or both.

You can think of tracks like a track on a tape deck or ADAT or 2" or
whatever.  You could record a single instrument on that tape track, OR,
you could mic your whole band into that one track.  The XL-7 sequencer
is the same.  You can record one CHANNEL per TRACK, or, record a whole
bank (16) or CHANNELS in any given TRACK.  To do the first, set the
TRACK to CHANNEL ASSIGN: channel:01A (or whatever single channel).  To
do the later, set it to Channel:MultiA (or B).  If it's internal sounds
you want playing for that track, pick internal.  If you want external
tracks, select external.

-Aaron

PS.  if you really are "turning off" the internal synth (presumably
with the MIDI ENABLE feature), you're REALLY going about it the wrong
way.  The pattern channel assign page is your friend...

--- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:
> I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with the
> track I was working with and its great now being able
> to use my external gear.....but the track layout is a
> bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b tracks
> is kind of misleading since you don't get to see them
> layed out and lit up in the command functions buttons
> for punching in/out for live playing/sequencing....it
> shows this is more for production than for live
> playing....it might be easier just to route 3 tracks
> say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have the
> ability to punch them in/out without having to jump in
> the menu.....
> 
> I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
> would like to experiment and maybe eventually use it
> live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7 to
> control my other synth engines so I could use command
> functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want the
> Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
> though.....ideally this would be cool so I would have
> 32 tracks total to work with in front of me and have a
> sampler to work with.....would this be an easy task?
> or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
> suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....
> 
> thanks
> Brock
> 
> 
> --- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> 
> Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure what
> you mean 
> by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode." Could
> you clarify?
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> > Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> > appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> > 1-16b(external synths) to play along with 1-16a(my
> > patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> > multi/pattern mode? 
> > 
> > thanks
> > Brock
> 
> 
> 
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I understand how you can have so many
channels/patterns laying on one track and how many you
can layer both ext or int.....I don't want to layer
tons of sounds in one track only because I want to
gravitate towards playing/sequencing live and be able
to turn off/on each sound on the fly...I might layer
some drum sounds but don't really want to mix it in
with say some synth bass/lead sounds.....ideally I
would like to use the Xl7 to add extra tracks to my RS
7000 since the RS has a sampler and then be able to
creatively use the pads(I'm used to) from the Xl7 to
control my rack synths and make patterns

hope this clears a little air 


--- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:


---------------------------------
I've said this a few times before, but the new guys
haven't heard it
yet, apparently, so:

Get your head around TRACKS versus CHANNELS.

They ARE NOT the same thing.

The sequencer has 16 TRACKS.  The synthesiser has 32
CHANNELS.  The
MIDI outputs can address 32 CHANNELS.

You record into a TRACK.  TRACKS play CHANNEL(s).

TRACKS can go to a single CHANNEL or a bank of 16
CHANNELS, either
internally, externally, or both.

You can think of tracks like a track on a tape deck or
ADAT or 2" or
whatever.  You could record a single instrument on
that tape track, OR,
you could mic your whole band into that one track. 
The XL-7 sequencer
is the same.  You can record one CHANNEL per TRACK,
or, record a whole
bank (16) or CHANNELS in any given TRACK.  To do the
first, set the
TRACK to CHANNEL ASSIGN: channel:01A (or whatever
single channel).  To
do the later, set it to Channel:MultiA (or B).  If
it's internal sounds
you want playing for that track, pick internal.  If
you want external
tracks, select external.

-Aaron

PS.  if you really are "turning off" the internal
synth (presumably
with the MIDI ENABLE feature), you're REALLY going
about it the wrong
way.  The pattern channel assign page is your
friend...

--- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
wrote:
> I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with
the
> track I was working with and its great now being
able
> to use my external gear.....but the track layout is
a
> bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b tracks
> is kind of misleading since you don't get to see
them
> layed out and lit up in the command functions
buttons
> for punching in/out for live
playing/sequencing....it
> shows this is more for production than for live
> playing....it might be easier just to route 3 tracks
> say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have the
> ability to punch them in/out without having to jump
in
> the menu.....
> 
> I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
> would like to experiment and maybe eventually use it
> live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7 to
> control my other synth engines so I could use
command
> functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want
the
> Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
> though.....ideally this would be cool so I would
have
> 32 tracks total to work with in front of me and have
a
> sampler to work with.....would this be an easy task?
> or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
> suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....
> 
> thanks
> Brock
> 
> 
> --- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> 
> Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure
what
> you mean 
> by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode." Could
> you clarify?
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> > Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> > appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> > 1-16b(external synths) to play along with 1-16a(my
> > patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> > multi/pattern mode? 
> > 
> > thanks
> > Brock
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I hope I didn't come off as sounding pissed cause I'm not.  I still
don't think you get tracks vs. channels though.  It's not about
layering.  It's about what you record into (tracks) and what you play
(channels).  Just read what I wrote a few times.  Once you're clear
that you don't "overdub on 1-16b tracks" (because 1-16b are CHANNELS)
it will make more sense to you.

-Aaron

--- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:

> 
> I understand how you can have so many
> channels/patterns laying on one track and how many you
> can layer both ext or int.....I don't want to layer
> tons of sounds in one track only because I want to
> gravitate towards playing/sequencing live and be able
> to turn off/on each sound on the fly...I might layer
> some drum sounds but don't really want to mix it in
> with say some synth bass/lead sounds.....ideally I
> would like to use the Xl7 to add extra tracks to my RS
> 7000 since the RS has a sampler and then be able to
> creatively use the pads(I'm used to) from the Xl7 to
> control my rack synths and make patterns
> 
> hope this clears a little air 
> 
> 
> --- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> I've said this a few times before, but the new guys
> haven't heard it
> yet, apparently, so:
> 
> Get your head around TRACKS versus CHANNELS.
> 
> They ARE NOT the same thing.
> 
> The sequencer has 16 TRACKS.  The synthesiser has 32
> CHANNELS.  The
> MIDI outputs can address 32 CHANNELS.
> 
> You record into a TRACK.  TRACKS play CHANNEL(s).
> 
> TRACKS can go to a single CHANNEL or a bank of 16
> CHANNELS, either
> internally, externally, or both.
> 
> You can think of tracks like a track on a tape deck or
> ADAT or 2" or
> whatever.  You could record a single instrument on
> that tape track, OR,
> you could mic your whole band into that one track. 
> The XL-7 sequencer
> is the same.  You can record one CHANNEL per TRACK,
> or, record a whole
> bank (16) or CHANNELS in any given TRACK.  To do the
> first, set the
> TRACK to CHANNEL ASSIGN: channel:01A (or whatever
> single channel).  To
> do the later, set it to Channel:MultiA (or B).  If
> it's internal sounds
> you want playing for that track, pick internal.  If
> you want external
> tracks, select external.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> PS.  if you really are "turning off" the internal
> synth (presumably
> with the MIDI ENABLE feature), you're REALLY going
> about it the wrong
> way.  The pattern channel assign page is your
> friend...
> 
> --- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
> wrote:
> > I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with
> the
> > track I was working with and its great now being
> able
> > to use my external gear.....but the track layout is
> a
> > bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b tracks
> > is kind of misleading since you don't get to see
> them
> > layed out and lit up in the command functions
> buttons
> > for punching in/out for live
> playing/sequencing....it
> > shows this is more for production than for live
> > playing....it might be easier just to route 3 tracks
> > say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have the
> > ability to punch them in/out without having to jump
> in
> > the menu.....
> > 
> > I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
> > would like to experiment and maybe eventually use it
> > live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7 to
> > control my other synth engines so I could use
> command
> > functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want
> the
> > Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
> > though.....ideally this would be cool so I would
> have
> > 32 tracks total to work with in front of me and have
> a
> > sampler to work with.....would this be an easy task?
> > or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
> > suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....
> > 
> > thanks
> > Brock
> > 
> > 
> > --- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure
> what
> > you mean 
> > by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode." Could
> > you clarify?
> > 
> > --Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> > > Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> > > appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> > > 1-16b(external synths) to play along with 1-16a(my
> > > patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> > > multi/pattern mode? 
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > Brock
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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no you didn't come off as pissed....no problem here
just trying to figure out the best way of working with
both my XL7 and RS.....I plan on tripping a few times
before getting things right....as for the overdub
comment I meant to use that word loosely... I know you
can still go in and edit that channel so its not an
overdub but you can only mute the entire track that
contains all these channels? am I right or wrong? or
is there a way to quickly mute certain channels that
are playing in that track without going through the
menus? I may be using the wrong terminology so please
bare with me....also remember that I am going to be
using this live so I need ease of use over flexibility
and depth

thanks 
Brock

--- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:


---------------------------------
I hope I didn't come off as sounding pissed cause I'm
not.  I still
don't think you get tracks vs. channels though.  It's
not about
layering.  It's about what you record into (tracks)
and what you play
(channels).  Just read what I wrote a few times.  Once
you're clear
that you don't "overdub on 1-16b tracks" (because
1-16b are CHANNELS)
it will make more sense to you.

-Aaron

--- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
wrote:

> 
> I understand how you can have so many
> channels/patterns laying on one track and how many
you
> can layer both ext or int.....I don't want to layer
> tons of sounds in one track only because I want to
> gravitate towards playing/sequencing live and be
able
> to turn off/on each sound on the fly...I might layer
> some drum sounds but don't really want to mix it in
> with say some synth bass/lead sounds.....ideally I
> would like to use the Xl7 to add extra tracks to my
RS
> 7000 since the RS has a sampler and then be able to
> creatively use the pads(I'm used to) from the Xl7 to
> control my rack synths and make patterns
> 
> hope this clears a little air 
> 
> 
> --- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> I've said this a few times before, but the new guys
> haven't heard it
> yet, apparently, so:
> 
> Get your head around TRACKS versus CHANNELS.
> 
> They ARE NOT the same thing.
> 
> The sequencer has 16 TRACKS.  The synthesiser has 32
> CHANNELS.  The
> MIDI outputs can address 32 CHANNELS.
> 
> You record into a TRACK.  TRACKS play CHANNEL(s).
> 
> TRACKS can go to a single CHANNEL or a bank of 16
> CHANNELS, either
> internally, externally, or both.
> 
> You can think of tracks like a track on a tape deck
or
> ADAT or 2" or
> whatever.  You could record a single instrument on
> that tape track, OR,
> you could mic your whole band into that one track. 
> The XL-7 sequencer
> is the same.  You can record one CHANNEL per TRACK,
> or, record a whole
> bank (16) or CHANNELS in any given TRACK.  To do the
> first, set the
> TRACK to CHANNEL ASSIGN: channel:01A (or whatever
> single channel).  To
> do the later, set it to Channel:MultiA (or B).  If
> it's internal sounds
> you want playing for that track, pick internal.  If
> you want external
> tracks, select external.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> PS.  if you really are "turning off" the internal
> synth (presumably
> with the MIDI ENABLE feature), you're REALLY going
> about it the wrong
> way.  The pattern channel assign page is your
> friend...
> 
> --- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
> wrote:
> > I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with
> the
> > track I was working with and its great now being
> able
> > to use my external gear.....but the track layout
is
> a
> > bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b
tracks
> > is kind of misleading since you don't get to see
> them
> > layed out and lit up in the command functions
> buttons
> > for punching in/out for live
> playing/sequencing....it
> > shows this is more for production than for live
> > playing....it might be easier just to route 3
tracks
> > say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have
the
> > ability to punch them in/out without having to
jump
> in
> > the menu.....
> > 
> > I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
> > would like to experiment and maybe eventually use
it
> > live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7
to
> > control my other synth engines so I could use
> command
> > functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want
> the
> > Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
> > though.....ideally this would be cool so I would
> have
> > 32 tracks total to work with in front of me and
have
> a
> > sampler to work with.....would this be an easy
task?
> > or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
> > suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....
> > 
> > thanks
> > Brock
> > 
> > 
> > --- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure
> what
> > you mean 
> > by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode."
Could
> > you clarify?
> > 
> > --Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> > > Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> > > appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> > > 1-16b(external synths) to play along with
1-16a(my
> > > patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> > > multi/pattern mode? 
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Here's how you should work then.

On each track, put a selection of things that you want to be able to
turn on and off live.  You have 16 places to do that.  If some of those
things are accomplishable with one MIDI channel, great.  Simply set the
track to go to that channel, either internally or externally.  If you
have a thing that requires multiple channels yet still needs to be
turned on and off as a unit, you can use a "Multi" track by setting the
track to go to MultiA or MultiB, again, internally or externally.

All of this is done in the 2nd to last pattern edit screen.  Track is
in the upper left, channel and destination are on the 2nd row.  This
maps the 16 tracks (mute-able with the 16 buttons) to the 64 available
channels (1-16A int, 1-16B int, 1-16A ext, 1-16B ext).

-Aaron

--- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...> wrote:

> 
> no you didn't come off as pissed....no problem here
> just trying to figure out the best way of working with
> both my XL7 and RS.....I plan on tripping a few times
> before getting things right....as for the overdub
> comment I meant to use that word loosely... I know you
> can still go in and edit that channel so its not an
> overdub but you can only mute the entire track that
> contains all these channels? am I right or wrong? or
> is there a way to quickly mute certain channels that
> are playing in that track without going through the
> menus? I may be using the wrong terminology so please
> bare with me....also remember that I am going to be
> using this live so I need ease of use over flexibility
> and depth
> 
> thanks 
> Brock
> 
> --- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> I hope I didn't come off as sounding pissed cause I'm
> not.  I still
> don't think you get tracks vs. channels though.  It's
> not about
> layering.  It's about what you record into (tracks)
> and what you play
> (channels).  Just read what I wrote a few times.  Once
> you're clear
> that you don't "overdub on 1-16b tracks" (because
> 1-16b are CHANNELS)
> it will make more sense to you.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I understand how you can have so many
> > channels/patterns laying on one track and how many
> you
> > can layer both ext or int.....I don't want to layer
> > tons of sounds in one track only because I want to
> > gravitate towards playing/sequencing live and be
> able
> > to turn off/on each sound on the fly...I might layer
> > some drum sounds but don't really want to mix it in
> > with say some synth bass/lead sounds.....ideally I
> > would like to use the Xl7 to add extra tracks to my
> RS
> > 7000 since the RS has a sampler and then be able to
> > creatively use the pads(I'm used to) from the Xl7 to
> > control my rack synths and make patterns
> > 
> > hope this clears a little air 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > I've said this a few times before, but the new guys
> > haven't heard it
> > yet, apparently, so:
> > 
> > Get your head around TRACKS versus CHANNELS.
> > 
> > They ARE NOT the same thing.
> > 
> > The sequencer has 16 TRACKS.  The synthesiser has 32
> > CHANNELS.  The
> > MIDI outputs can address 32 CHANNELS.
> > 
> > You record into a TRACK.  TRACKS play CHANNEL(s).
> > 
> > TRACKS can go to a single CHANNEL or a bank of 16
> > CHANNELS, either
> > internally, externally, or both.
> > 
> > You can think of tracks like a track on a tape deck
> or
> > ADAT or 2" or
> > whatever.  You could record a single instrument on
> > that tape track, OR,
> > you could mic your whole band into that one track. 
> > The XL-7 sequencer
> > is the same.  You can record one CHANNEL per TRACK,
> > or, record a whole
> > bank (16) or CHANNELS in any given TRACK.  To do the
> > first, set the
> > TRACK to CHANNEL ASSIGN: channel:01A (or whatever
> > single channel).  To
> > do the later, set it to Channel:MultiA (or B).  If
> > it's internal sounds
> > you want playing for that track, pick internal.  If
> > you want external
> > tracks, select external.
> > 
> > -Aaron
> > 
> > PS.  if you really are "turning off" the internal
> > synth (presumably
> > with the MIDI ENABLE feature), you're REALLY going
> > about it the wrong
> > way.  The pattern channel assign page is your
> > friend...
> > 
> > --- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
> > wrote:
> > > I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with
> > the
> > > track I was working with and its great now being
> > able
> > > to use my external gear.....but the track layout
> is
> > a
> > > bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b
> tracks
> > > is kind of misleading since you don't get to see
> > them
> > > layed out and lit up in the command functions
> > buttons
> > > for punching in/out for live
> > playing/sequencing....it
> > > shows this is more for production than for live
> > > playing....it might be easier just to route 3
> tracks
> > > say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have
> the
> > > ability to punch them in/out without having to
> jump
> > in
> > > the menu.....
> > > 
> > > I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
> > > would like to experiment and maybe eventually use
> it
> > > live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7
> to
> > > control my other synth engines so I could use
> > command
> > > functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want
> > the
> > > Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
> > > though.....ideally this would be cool so I would
> > have
> > > 32 tracks total to work with in front of me and
> have
> > a
> > > sampler to work with.....would this be an easy
> task?
> > > or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
> > > suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > Brock
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure
> > what
> > > you mean 
> > > by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode."
> Could
> > > you clarify?
> > > 
> > > --Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> > > > Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> > > > appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> > > > 1-16b(external synths) to play along with
> 1-16a(my
> > > > patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> > > > multi/pattern mode? 
> > > > 
> > > > thanks
> > > > Brock
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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