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Re: [xl7] Re: Setup for Sequencing Hell

2005-02-02 by Brock Hiroshima

no you didn't come off as pissed....no problem here
just trying to figure out the best way of working with
both my XL7 and RS.....I plan on tripping a few times
before getting things right....as for the overdub
comment I meant to use that word loosely... I know you
can still go in and edit that channel so its not an
overdub but you can only mute the entire track that
contains all these channels? am I right or wrong? or
is there a way to quickly mute certain channels that
are playing in that track without going through the
menus? I may be using the wrong terminology so please
bare with me....also remember that I am going to be
using this live so I need ease of use over flexibility
and depth

thanks 
Brock

--- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:


---------------------------------
I hope I didn't come off as sounding pissed cause I'm
not.  I still
don't think you get tracks vs. channels though.  It's
not about
layering.  It's about what you record into (tracks)
and what you play
(channels).  Just read what I wrote a few times.  Once
you're clear
that you don't "overdub on 1-16b tracks" (because
1-16b are CHANNELS)
it will make more sense to you.

-Aaron

--- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
wrote:

> 
> I understand how you can have so many
> channels/patterns laying on one track and how many
you
> can layer both ext or int.....I don't want to layer
> tons of sounds in one track only because I want to
> gravitate towards playing/sequencing live and be
able
> to turn off/on each sound on the fly...I might layer
> some drum sounds but don't really want to mix it in
> with say some synth bass/lead sounds.....ideally I
> would like to use the Xl7 to add extra tracks to my
RS
> 7000 since the RS has a sampler and then be able to
> creatively use the pads(I'm used to) from the Xl7 to
> control my rack synths and make patterns
> 
> hope this clears a little air 
> 
> 
> --- Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> I've said this a few times before, but the new guys
> haven't heard it
> yet, apparently, so:
> 
> Get your head around TRACKS versus CHANNELS.
> 
> They ARE NOT the same thing.
> 
> The sequencer has 16 TRACKS.  The synthesiser has 32
> CHANNELS.  The
> MIDI outputs can address 32 CHANNELS.
> 
> You record into a TRACK.  TRACKS play CHANNEL(s).
> 
> TRACKS can go to a single CHANNEL or a bank of 16
> CHANNELS, either
> internally, externally, or both.
> 
> You can think of tracks like a track on a tape deck
or
> ADAT or 2" or
> whatever.  You could record a single instrument on
> that tape track, OR,
> you could mic your whole band into that one track. 
> The XL-7 sequencer
> is the same.  You can record one CHANNEL per TRACK,
> or, record a whole
> bank (16) or CHANNELS in any given TRACK.  To do the
> first, set the
> TRACK to CHANNEL ASSIGN: channel:01A (or whatever
> single channel).  To
> do the later, set it to Channel:MultiA (or B).  If
> it's internal sounds
> you want playing for that track, pick internal.  If
> you want external
> tracks, select external.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> PS.  if you really are "turning off" the internal
> synth (presumably
> with the MIDI ENABLE feature), you're REALLY going
> about it the wrong
> way.  The pattern channel assign page is your
> friend...
> 
> --- Brock Hiroshima <brockhiroshima@...>
> wrote:
> > I figured out how to turn off the INT sounds with
> the
> > track I was working with and its great now being
> able
> > to use my external gear.....but the track layout
is
> a
> > bit tricky though... how you overdub on 1-16b
tracks
> > is kind of misleading since you don't get to see
> them
> > layed out and lit up in the command functions
> buttons
> > for punching in/out for live
> playing/sequencing....it
> > shows this is more for production than for live
> > playing....it might be easier just to route 3
tracks
> > say 14a,15a,and 16a to external gear so you have
the
> > ability to punch them in/out without having to
jump
> in
> > the menu.....
> > 
> > I have a Yamaha RS 7000 as well and down the road
> > would like to experiment and maybe eventually use
it
> > live as the master midi clock and use the Emu Xl7
to
> > control my other synth engines so I could use
> command
> > functions buttons to punch in/out ....I don't want
> the
> > Emu to respond to knob movements from the RS 7000
> > though.....ideally this would be cool so I would
> have
> > 32 tracks total to work with in front of me and
have
> a
> > sampler to work with.....would this be an easy
task?
> > or should I just dedicate one or the other? any
> > suggestions or past experiences are welcome.....
> > 
> > thanks
> > Brock
> > 
> > 
> > --- steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > Glad the explanation was helpful.  I am not sure
> what
> > you mean 
> > by "turning off 1-16a in multi/pattern mode."
Could
> > you clarify?
> > 
> > --Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Brock Hiroshima wrote:
> > > Ay Steve thanks for a great explanation there I
> > > appreciate it! one question though how do I get
> > > 1-16b(external synths) to play along with
1-16a(my
> > > patterns/drums) without turning off 1-16a in
> > > multi/pattern mode? 
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > Brock
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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