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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Brandon Daniel

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Ryan Dean wrote: > P.S. Brandon D. - Korg's knobs are slipping too. The microX knobs are > extremely chintzy. > Hope they return to a solid feel for upcoming products. If I had any input on mechanicals for any Korg products (or indeed, on any asp

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Brandon Daniel

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:58 AM, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > This would be great, but the Deopfer maximum depth spec of 4 inches > makes this challenging to engineer elegantly. I would assume this would require an external power brick of some sort and fairly low-p

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Luigi

I can't believe nobody sells a reasonably priced euro frame that fits into a 19" SKB. Blacet/Paia have this figured out for frac.... euro you have to spend 500 damn dollars for a metal frame from doepfer... If anyone designed a cost effective case for euro they would in deed clea

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Ryan Dean

I'm looking for a rack, but I want it to tilt like the V-synth XT. Roland did something right for once - go figure. They should've saved the money and put some decent knobs on their products:) P.S. Brandon D. - Korg's knobs are slipping too. The microX knobs are extremely chintzy

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RE: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Anthony Rolando

In regards to the diy Buchla clone... great sdiy project, but sometimes it seems that you guys really want the B in PLan-B to stand for Behrigner. > You guys want to see my concept drawings? No. Curious though. Tony > > > > > > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Chris Muir

On Apr 22, 2008, at 11:58 AM, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > You guys want to see my concept drawings? Sure. –C Chris Muir cbm@well.com http://www.xfade.com

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Brandon Daniel

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Igor Medeiros wrote: > this topic really makes me want to hear more about the new cases... > 3 types, just big university systems ? > or any small enough to travel with / play live ? Speaking of cases, someone really needs to follow this guy's lea

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Affordable Racks and Luigi's points

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

OK, there are ways and ways and here's something I need feedback on: One of the biggest problems with EUro are the many many module widths. Not a problem for the modules - the varied widths are a real plus in that regard. The problem are the rails. If you don't use a pre-fab'd IE

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Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

OK, I have to wait until I get home, all this stuff is on my Mac. I'll do it tonight --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Daniel" wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:58 AM, (i think you can figure that out) > wrote: > > This would be great, but the Deopfer maximu

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Chris Muir

While I may have described the Salamander (SMS) power supply system as overkill, it was only so in the cost / weight department. In the stability department it is really terrific. I have never used a more stable analog synth. The combination of system wide coarse regulation, loca

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Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

This would be great, but the Deopfer maximum depth spec of 4 inches makes this challenging to engineer elegantly. You guys want to see my concept drawings? --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Daniel" wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Igor Medeiros wrote:

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Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

The big issues with switchers is the ripple and frequency which they oscillate (they are named as they are because the current actually turns on and off many times second). If they're switching rate is in the audio band, you're f'd. We are looking into ones that ocsillate in the

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by Igor Medeiros

this topic really makes me want to hear more about the new cases... 3 types, just big university systems ? or any small enough to travel with / play live ? or some motivity news? http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/PLAN_B_analog_blog/photos/view/abc9?b=7 :) On Tue, Apr 22, 20

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Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

The cases which are under development now include a rack system and two desktop chassis, one single and one double width. I suppose they could be used on the road but it would require an outer shell. Possibly when these are released we will address mobile solutions. Presently we

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by deastman2

Have you looked at Doepfer's module product pages? Not a single real photograph among them! It must be some sham company set up to defraud synth enthusiasts. In fact, I just took a close look at my mixed eurorack modular, and it turns out everything is just made of cardboard! How

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Re: Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-22 by Sean Hannan

Just when I thought, "well, where the hell am I going to find the space/money for 4 VCOs for the ASR?" Pow! Dual-function LFO/VCO with 1v/oct tracking. These Elf modules will be so fricken useful. The M36 alone is something I've been searching for since I started my modular. Now

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Re: Model 15A, where art thou?

2008-04-22 by astroschnautzer

Well, hopin for some quick problem solvery :) quite a boring module but it would be so useful.... anyway the other ELF modules seem to be very interesting and useful...any ideas on price yet? -Wille --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wr

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by jalmari3

Funny! I noticed the reflection of the photographer, but assumed it was just some novelty rendering effect... I didn't look very carefully though. Jari Jokinen

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by Pierre Zeeman

Peter, I don't get it - you seem to attract far (far!) more than your share of internet hostility (particularly on matrix). Yet I've never seen a single thing that would indicate that you deserve any of it. Quite the contrary in fact. I guess it's the down side of being a more pu

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

I appreciate this, very much. But I will not fool myself nor my colleagues that I didn't make mistakes in my early years. Late deliveries on custom gear. Some of it was caused when my mother became ill and passed away, but some of it was just my irresponsibly. We all learn and I

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WOAH!

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

The guy I just mentioned on Matrixsynth just got completely slammed. I have not seen an asswhip like that in a long time. Yikes!

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Re: clean up

2008-04-22 by mritenburg

I'm looking at it right now and I see: Mini Milton + ELF LFO + ELF ADSR + Heisenberg + 3x VCO + Dual LPG + Headphone Pre = a good chunk of the features of the 208. You would need to add reverb, balanced modulation, mic pre, inverter, patch saving, and (of course) a touch controll

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by ginorobair

I agree. Build them so we can get down to the business of making music with 'em. ;-) --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "mritenburg" wrote: > > My take on it is: so what if it is CG? It clearly isn't, but even if > it was, using a CG mock-up for product announcement is co

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by (i think you can figure that out)

I did mess with the pictures a bit. I mean, obviously I took them out of the 'real' background which was a bricked-off windowsill on the side of 292a Main St Pomona. When I looked at them on my PC at work, they looked fine. When I got them home, on my Mac they had a greenish tint

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by gabu_004

PWAHAHAHAHA If People on the net were concentrating on doing music instead of being soooo stupid. we wrote: > > that palm is very clearly CG. > and you cant fool me with that 'shopped brick wall. > > > > > --- "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > > > Just received a lette

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Re: Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by mritenburg

My take on it is: so what if it is CG? It clearly isn't, but even if it was, using a CG mock-up for product announcement is common place. For the sake of argument, if Plan B did present CG for the announcement is that somehow supposed to deter from their cred? It's absurd to thin

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Oh brother....

2008-04-22 by loopcycle

that palm is very clearly CG. and you cant fool me with that 'shopped brick wall. --- "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > Just received a letter from a person who has acused us of faking the > new module pictures. "obvious fakes" were his exact words. > > I've just added

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Oh brother....

2008-04-21 by (i think you can figure that out)

Just received a letter from a person who has acused us of faking the new module pictures. "obvious fakes" were his exact words. I've just added a shot to the MIsc folder. It's one of the originals we took outside the building last Thursday. It's the last picture in there entitled

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Mimi milton..which is forward, which is back?

2008-04-21 by (i think you can figure that out)

Mark, Funny, I stressed over this one and when the faceplates came in, i looked at them and said..crap, i did it backwards. but then when I saw the lights going around I realized it's really subjective. You see the motion, you get into the groove, etc. It's a bit of a mobius. Tru

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Re: Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by jalmari3

OK. (Just to clarify my 'leads you to techno' comment: The circular arrangement of Mini Milton definitely seems to lean away from the 'tehcno mood'! This is good in my opinion.) Jari Jokinen --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > >

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Re: Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by Mark Landman

When time allows, could you explain the different "patch" configurations on the Model 30? I'm assuming they're different freq. mod. algorithms, but am curious if they're linear or exponential. Even better, if some audio exists it'd be nice to hear the Model 30 in action. On the M

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Re: Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by (i think you can figure that out)

I hear you, although I don't agree with the 'leads you to techno' issue of the Mini. I just thought it seemed more fun. the center jacks are merely stage gate outputs, not sure it's going to become a problem. How often are all of them used at once in a single bank sequencer? One

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Re: New mondules questionds addressed, part deux

2008-04-21 by jalmari3

--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure > No. It's like the big Milton when in Keyboard VC mode. Ground brings > it to stage 1, 8 or so volts brings it to stage 8 and everything > inbetween sends it to any of the six stages between those two. It'll > b

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Re: Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by jalmari3

I wonder how practical the Mini Milton panel layout will be. The circular arrangement looks good and somehow more "neutral" than 4+4 arrangement. (I have even seen a DIY sequencer with 4+4+4+4 arrangement for 16 steps. That is not neutral at all: It seems to indicate, that "techn

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Model 18

2008-04-21 by cray5656

Hi Peter I have cleaned myself up now :-) Any idea when we will see the Model 18? You know you are eating into my Buchla purchase damn you :-)

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Model 15A, where art thou?

2008-04-21 by (i think you can figure that out)

This is a very good point. Let me give you the 411. There are workings one-offs of every module I announced this morning. Some have been up and running since last early last fall - the Model 30 amoung them, although in that it exsists in software we are making changes and adding

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Re: New mondules questionds addressed, part deux

2008-04-21 by hpsounds_fr

--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > > Dave Bradley asked [offlist]: > > "Does the VC direction input just flip from clocking forward to > clocking backward, or does it retain the full VC stage selection of > the larger Miltons?"

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by Ross Stapf

Is there a package discount for purchasing the entire ELF series? Or maybe numbered coupons to send in for the "secret module"??? "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: As promised, click the link below for previews, descriptions and photos of 15 new Plan B products slated fo

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by Norman Fay

As everyone else has already said, these are some excellent pieces by the look of it, very intriguing. They all give the product lineup even more of a distict identity in this rather crowded marketplace. I wonder if the 2 ADSR parts could be supplied behind a single 8u panel, for

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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Plan B New Product Previews!

2008-04-21 by James Cigler

Wow, an excellent new line up! I must say it was much more than I expected. Mini-Milton looks awesome, I can't wait to get my hands on that. I was really happy to see that the ELF ADSR has a VC expansion module. 8HP for ADSR with CV control is outstanding. Excellent work! -james

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Re: Favor to ask...

2008-04-21 by gabu_004

Done! ... I owed you one big favor Peter ;) thanks g. --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > > I'm already at work and can't post to the AH list from this proxy > email (although it says peter at ear-group.com, it's actually my gma

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Re: Mini Milton factoid...

2008-04-21 by hpsounds_fr

--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > > One thing that may not come clear in the photo is it's only 18hp > wide...same as the Model 15. > > - P > Hi Peter, Thanks for these nice designed futur modules ! Waiting for its will be har

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New mondules questionds addressed, part deux

2008-04-21 by (i think you can figure that out)

Dave Bradley asked [offlist]: "Does the VC direction input just flip from clocking forward to clocking backward, or does it retain the full VC stage selection of the larger Miltons?" No. It's like the big Milton when in Keyboard VC mode. Ground brings it to stage 1, 8 or so volts

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Mini Milton factoid...

2008-04-21 by (i think you can figure that out)

One thing that may not come clear in the photo is it's only 18hp wide...same as the Model 15. - P

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