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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by eblake_smith

> Mind you, this isn't knocking the Wiard. I'm just saying that it > seems to follow in Buchla's shoes, and might balance that out with > more traditional modules so as to enjoy a broader audience. I think its fairly clear at this point that the wiard modules in production are in

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Chris Whitten

> I'd love to hear some sample of what you're doing. Got anything posted > anywhere featuring the Buchla? Sorry no (haven't got a website yet). My latest tv project will no doubt appear on a screen near you. It's a BBC production which I'm sure will be sold to The States. I'll le

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Seduced?

2004-06-25 by Chris Whitten

> I do not think it is possible for anyone at this time. Particularily > with the investment in synthesizer modules done in thru hole > technology. Forces in the electronic industry itself are putting > great price penalties on "old" parts. The cost of Bakelite knobs > went from

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-25 by Les Mizzell

> I believe that the only instruments invented in the 20th century > were the saxophone, the steel drum and the electronic music > synthesizer. Daxophone? Don't look like much, but it's one of the weirdest and amazingly expressive and versatile at the same time. Plus, there are a

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by konkuro

I wrote: >>Hell, do you know how many manuals I wrote for Ampex without ever seeing the equipment? That's supposed to be a good thing? So, because you've heard a Buchla album, this gives you enough experience to talk about the instrument? >I would challenge you to name five tradi

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by konkuro

Chris wrote: >As I said, I'm using Buchla modules constantly for mainstream melodic parts in television music scores. I've found the Buchla Oscillators have tremendous low end for dance music and/or Drum n Bass type stuff. I don't understand your blanket statement. If you have os

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-25 by konkuro

While the calibre of posts on this forum is generally quite high (the Grant/Paul posts have been particularly insightful) Gary gets my "Post of the Month" award. It's a bit frustrating, though-- there's nothing to argue with! :-) johnm --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Cha

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Robair, Gino

Yeah, uninformed was what my mind meant (though my fingers couldn't catch up). the equipment? >> > That's supposed to be a good thing? So, because you've heard a Buchla album, this gives you enough experience to talk about the instrument? I guess I'd rather hear about Egypt from

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Les Mizzell

Chris Whitten wrote: > Johnm, > As I said, I'm using Buchla modules constantly for mainstream melodic parts > in television music scores. I'd love to hear some sample of what you're doing. Got anything posted anywhere featuring the Buchla? -- Les Mizzell -------------------------

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Chris Whitten

Johnm, As I said, I'm using Buchla modules constantly for mainstream melodic parts in television music scores. I've found the Buchla Oscillators have tremendous low end for dance music and/or Drum n Bass type stuff. I don't understand your blanket statement. If you have oscillato

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Re: Seduced?

2004-06-25 by grantrichter2001

HI Paul, Thank you for posting such a thoughtful and well worded message. > > I'm not sure what you mean by this, exactly. The > illusion of some 'huge' market? Not me: I started MOTM > only to get a "decent" stereo out of the deal. My goal > was to generate about $15K of profit

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-25 by grantrichter2001

> I often refer to Doepfer as a "Middlecoast" synthesizer. Modcan also > has middlecoast aspects. Here in Milwaukee, we like to call it "Third Coast" since Milwaukee is on the coast of a very large body of water. Not the ocean of course, but it is FRESH water. > Ah, but there is

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-25 by Gary Chang

East Coast, West Coast, Middle Coast.... As far as I can see, the caveat about the current state of the art of offering eleventy million modules and having each customer choose is there is no pedigological developement because everyone's instrument is different. Discussions about

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-25 by konkuro

I wrote: >>New instruments also tend to be novelties with limited musical usefulness. What about the banjo, saxophone, vibraphone, and pedal steel guitar? [Although sometimes I get the impression that John would never willingly listen to a piece of music employing any of those in

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by konkuro

Gino wrote: >Yeah, I have to agree, *that* was one (of many) inarguable and uniformed comments. Too bad the opinonator doesn't use Buchla or Wiard modules to really get to know them.

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fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Robair, Gino

Yeah, I have to agree, *that* was one (of many) inarguable and uniformed comments. Too bad the opinonator doesn't use Buchla or Wiard modules to really get to know them. Paul of MOTM's microbrewery analogy is a good one. And although on the surface we can talk about East vs West

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by Doug Pearson

konkuro wrote: >New instruments that are truly new are rare as hen's teeth. How many >new instruments have popped up in the symphony orchestra? Restricting the question of new instruments to symphony orchestras is both unfairly-limiting (since most musicians do not play in sympho

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Seduced?

2004-06-24 by Paul Schreiber

> strengthened the illusion, and them Paul and Bruce > and I were > sucked into the illusion, others followed. I'm not sure what you mean by this, exactly. The illusion of some 'huge' market? Not me: I started MOTM only to get a "decent" stereo out of the deal. My goal was to gen

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Re: [wiardgroup] Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by davevosh@aol.com

In a message dated 6/24/2004 11:07:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, grichter@asapnet.net writes: There is nothing wrong with doing a "cover" of a module, it's like a band doing a "cover" of a song. But I can not stress enough the importance of supporting designers who are dedicated t

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by Chris Whitten

> But they weren't as common > as Moogs because they were limited to one kind of music and simply > would never sell like a Moog. New? Yes. Unique? Yes. Useful? Only > within the confines of atonal experimentalism. Those are some of the strangest comments. Buchla limited to one k

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-24 by drmabuce

(why can't you guys do this when things are slow at work?) (oh what the hell...) --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "konkuro" wrote: > > But isn't that kind of like designing a kitchen tool, then leaving it > up to chefs to come up with a use for it? Yes it is. That is correct. T

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hey grant- remove?

2004-06-24 by dave cooley

I don't know if it's Grant Richter that will receive this email... but you guys post a lot of messages and it breaks my heart every day that I have to read emails about Wiards. Could you remove me? Only out of emotional pain... Dave Cooley Production, Mixing, Mastering 1966 1/2 V

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by konkuro

I often refer to Doepfer as a "Middlecoast" synthesizer. Modcan also has middlecoast aspects. Grant wrote: >The same should be true of synthesizer companies. Those of us whose standards are too high to allow us to copy other designs, are more deserving of your support and respect

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Re: [wiardgroup] Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by Les Mizzell

grantrichter2001 wrote: > There is nothing wrong with doing a "cover" of a module, it's like > a band doing a "cover" of a song. > > But I can not stress enough the importance of supporting > designers who are dedicated to doing original designs. There is also a huge difference b

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Re: [wiardgroup] Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by Ingo Zobel

--- grantrichter2001 schrieb: > >(who is a proud Wiard owner, also interested in Doepfer, > > especially some of the new "Buchla-esque" modules coming > > out) > > There is nothing wrong with doing a "cover" of a module, it's like > a band doing a "cover" of a song. > > But I can

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-24 by grantrichter2001

> > But isn't that kind of like designing a kitchen tool, then leaving it > up to chefs to come up with a use for it? Form follows function, to > borrow a hackneyed Bauhaus saw. Yes, that is the history of innovative synthesizer design. To quote a hackneyed cyberpunk saw "The str

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-24 by Ingo Zobel

--- Rob schrieb: > I guess Doepfer would be considered the "east coast" school... yes, in the past. but that has changed during the last years. now i would say that doepfer sits between east- and west-coast approach, especially since there is a lot of interaction going on with us

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-24 by konkuro

Grant wrote: >The "West Coast" school would say that art originates from the artist interacting synergistically with the enviorment. The underlying asumption is that music can NOT be defined, so that instruments need to be designed using an artistic "process" in addition to engin

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Please support Original Design

2004-06-24 by grantrichter2001

>(who is a proud Wiard owner, also interested in Doepfer, > especially some of the new "Buchla-esque" modules coming > out) There is nothing wrong with doing a "cover" of a module, it's like a band doing a "cover" of a song. But I can not stress enough the importance of supportin

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-24 by grantrichter2001

It is rather confused. People are issuing designs that they did not develop. So you end up with these strange hybrids. --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Rob wrote: > I guess Doepfer would be considered the "east coast" school... > > Several Doepfer systems have been up for aucti

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Re: Grant, whats the Envelooper?

2004-06-23 by grantrichter2001

It started rather simply as just an dual ADSR with a hold monostable so it could be looped. Along the way, it turned into a hybrid digital device like the Mini-Wave. Each section has 8 variations and a speed control. So attack is one 256 byte page, then decay is a 256 byte page,

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-23 by Rob

I guess Doepfer would be considered the "east coast" school... Several Doepfer systems have been up for auction on Ebay in the last few days, none reaching their rather low reserve prices...of course the fact that there are "tons" of their systems out there (in relative terms) he

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Grant, whats the Envelooper?

2004-06-23 by ethanzer0

I read about something called the envelooper for the 300 series systems. I'm guessing this module never made it past the planning/prototype stage. What were the fucntions fo this module? Is there a chance this module or a single envelator will be reborn in the 1200 series?

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-23 by grantrichter2001

> johnm (who doesn't care much for Wiard systems but loves the "vibe" > of Wiard owners. :-) ) Mike Murphy and I were discussing the enormous difference in perspective between the so called "East Coast" and "West Coast" schools of design. Mike pointed out a few things I never eve

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-23 by konkuro

In case you guys are wondering why there are two similar posts by me, it's because the first one was sent a while back, but never appeared. Wasn't sure if I hit the wrong button or something, so I re-wrote it and sent it again. Now it looks like they have both appeared! Sorry for

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-22 by konkuro

"supisuzoi" wrote: >Terry Michael (formerly Terry Mikulic) when he was a teenager, contributed a significant number of the core circuits published in Electronotes magazine While sawtooth reset designs had been published by Michael Suchoff (EN#49 Pg. 11) and Paul Titchener (EN#57

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-21 by konkuro

Grant wrote (by way of "supisuzoi") >Terry Michael (formerly Terry Mikulic) While sawtooth reset designs had been published by Michael Suchoff (EN#49 Pg. 11) and Paul Titchener (EN#57 Pg. 8), Terry's design (EN#62 Pg. 14 Feb. 1976) is the most widely copied.

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Re: Wiard 300 modules to buy

2004-06-18 by skuehnl

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Hettlich" wrote: > Hello to everyone in this group, > > today I got my first Wiard 300 modules ever (a used Mixolator and of course > a used Joystick controller)! REALLY beautiful work Grant Richter has done > with these modules!!! Glad y

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Wiard 300 modules to buy

2004-06-17 by Frank Hettlich

Hello to everyone in this group, today I got my first Wiard 300 modules ever (a used Mixolator and of course a used Joystick controller)! REALLY beautiful work Grant Richter has done with these modules!!! Impressed by these modules I am now looking for other 300 modules like the

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Re: blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-12 by supisuzoi

here's grant's definitive explaination, pasted from analogue heaven: > The Blacet VCO was designed with some tips from Grant and a contributor > to Electronotes (Terry?). The basic core is pretty much the classic > sawtooth engine with some further temp comp based on the original

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blacet/wiard vco

2004-06-12 by eblake_smith

Hi there, I read somewhere that the Blacet VCO was actually developed in conjunction with Wiard on some level... so I was curious if the Blacet VCO shared any sonic characteristics with the VCO from the 300 series...

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WTB: Wiard 300 series modules

2004-06-10 by Rob

If anyone has or knows of any for sale, please let me know. I am especially looking for VCOs and Omni Filter to complete my system. Thanks, Rob

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Waveform city bank select mod

2004-06-04 by mritenburg

Hi All, I was reading the archived posts and found a tidbit I would like to know more about. I understand the internal bank select can be brought out to the from panel. Does anyone have the details on this mod? Thanks, Matthew

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Vacation and E-mail

2004-06-02 by grantrichter2001

After 5 years of continuous work, I needed to take some time off. So I have been resting and doing research. Checking back with the computer, I find the grichter@asapnet.net address went down on May 18th and is just unaccessable. Please use sales@wiard.com for all correspondence.

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Re: [wiardgroup] Boogie and/or Borg in Blacet format? etc.

2004-06-01 by liquidcolor@earthlink.net

I would prefer to see Grant bring on the "new millenium" modules. If you've worked with a 300 series, you might feel the same way I do. It just seems logictically possible to cram the blue into a frac format. Nearly everything would have to be redisigned, and ergonomics could bec

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Re: [wiardgroup] Boogie and/or Borg in Blacet format? etc.

2004-06-01 by Rob

I would be extremely interested in seeing 300 modules in 1200 series format. Doubt Grant is up to it though, considering all the work he is doing on the new modules...maybe once the new line is "stabilized"? - Rob Adams "Brice D. Hornback" wrote: I for one would LOVE to see all t

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Re: [wiardgroup] Boogie and/or Borg in Blacet format? etc.

2004-06-01 by Brice D. Hornback

I for one would LOVE to see all the 300 series modules released in 1200 series format. Yes, they would be wide... but I'd rather have them wide that sacrifice functionality. Grant... think they would fit in a 5U wide panel? That way we could get two per rack. Anyone else interest

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Quick admin note: delayed messages

2004-05-31 by sacrificialyam

Hi all, I accidentally let two messages sit in the "pending" folder for a good part of May. My apologies to the authors - the messages should now appear in the group. Mike

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FS: Wiard modules, Blacet cables

2004-05-31 by skuehnl

Hi all, I'm selling, this time definetely: - 1 Wiard Mixolator (v2 faceplate), unused & as new, $650 US - 1 Wiard 300 controller (2x joystick + gate button, voltmeter, 4x4 jack converter - only 20 made), unused & as new, $500 US - 10 packs of Blacet neon cables (2 of each color,

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Re: S1 on GR 1202

2004-05-28 by drmabuce

to all who responded, ThanX for your help! the Range Switch on the GR1202 shifts BOTH the input AND output between +/-5V and +10V -doc --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" wrote: > Dear prof. Richter > there is a switch on the front panel of my two GR-1202 mini waves > w

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