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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Switched On Konkuro

2004-06-28 by Chris Whitten

> As so often happens with my posts, regardless of the forum, people > edit out the important (and usually complimentary) portion of what I > say, leaving only the negative observation I don't think you should worry too much. Obviously people read your original post and could mak

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by Doug Pearson

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Les Mizzell wrote: > My guess would be that that vast majority of orchestra music being > written today is for film scores. A huge improvement (when it actually happens) over the proliferation of sample CD's, pop songs, and cheezy presets that o

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by Doug Pearson

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "konkuro" wrote: > ... why should a modular be portable? You're joking, right? Some of us carry them to gigs, you know (this is nothing new, I seem to recall that certain of the original series of Moog modulars contained the designation "p" as p

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by konkuro

Grant wrote: >Printed circuit board houses routinely do precision drilling, plating and silkscreening from a single vendor. The least expensive way to make faceplates would be to make them from printed circuit board material (fiberglass). You could put a continuous ground plane o

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300 series model numbering logic?

2004-06-28 by Christophe Curtis

Hi I was just wondering why my borg filter and waveform city have the same model number. Totally irrelevant I know but it did pique my curiousity. Both are screened as Model GR 342. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality s

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Re: Switched On Konkuro

2004-06-28 by konkuro

*Sigh* Chris, Chris, Chris. As so often happens with my posts, regardless of the forum, people edit out the important (and usually complimentary) portion of what I say, leaving only the negative observation, which others who haven't read the original quote will glom onto like lam

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by verbos2002

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "grantrichter2001" wrote: > > Printed circuit board houses routinely do precision drilling, > plating and silkscreening from a single vendor. The least > expensive way to make faceplates would be to make them from > printed circuit board materia

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by Gary Chang

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "mrboningen" wrote: > OK, I agree, the Blacet format is not the nicest looking modular out > there (I have to say Gary's large blue Wiard system is the nicest > thing I have ever seen), but functionally and price wise I have > absolutely no comp

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by Chris Whitten

> It is no longer a question of producing an ideal modular. It is a > question of continuing to produce a usable, affordable modular > with reasonable lead times for delivery. I agree. BTW, I don't think I'd mind fibreglass faceplates.

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Re: Switched On Konkuro

2004-06-28 by Gary Chang

> Yes. Paul Schreiber is now missing one designer. Getting him into > a pie with four and nineteen blackbirds was a bit of a struggle, > though. For what it is worth, I think that Paul's choosing of his relationship with his son over his relationship with us and his synthesizer b

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by grantrichter2001

> >I would agree that "large format" modules that use a lot of metal > in construction are now too expensive to sustain. However, the > "small format" modulars which use very little metal in > construction seem to be doing all right. Every time I order a > Blacet module, it shows

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by mrboningen

> i don't agree about the panel size. fracrack is just fine. > it is not too big and saves a lot of studio space. > if your system is large, it is more economic to have the > modules nearby instead of several meters away. > it also saves a bit of money, which can be spend on > mo

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by mrboningen

"konkuro" wrote: > Shun the Fracrack and shun it NOW. It is an obligation...nay, my > SACRED DUTY to talk you out of the Fracrack format. There is much to > admire about Blacet, but not the format, which is trancendentally > horrid. Hey chill dude, it's not THAT bad! Some of us (

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by Ingo Zobel

--- konkuro schrieb: > Grant wrote: > > >I would agree that "large format" modules that use a lot of metal > in construction are now too expensive to sustain. However, the > "small format" modulars which use very little metal in > construction seem to be doing all right. Every ti

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Seduced?

2004-06-28 by Chris Whitten

> In fact, customers NEVER say a bad word, >> offer to pay in advance, and NEVER complain about >> delivery dates Yeah, I agree with EVERYTHING except that last part. I've paid in advance, but waited lengthy periods without the modules I wanted/needed for certain projects. That's

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by konkuro

Grant wrote: >I would agree that "large format" modules that use a lot of metal in construction are now too expensive to sustain. However, the "small format" modulars which use very little metal in construction seem to be doing all right. Every time I order a Blacet module, it sh

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Re: Switched On Konkuro

2004-06-28 by konkuro

Gary wrote: >Please find posted in the files section "Switched On Konkuro" - Bach 2 Part Invention #1, which I have entitled "the crow variation" (hmmm I hear that they are mighty tasty this time of the year....) Johnm, it's not fantastic, but I'll bet that 36 hours is a lot less

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Re: Seduced?

2004-06-27 by its_peake

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Paul Schreiber wrote: > Here are important lessons I think both Grant & I have > learned (still learning?) from the last couple of > years. > > 1) there is nothing more rewarding than to have > somebody you know and respect (Gary Chang/Robert Ri

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-27 by Les Mizzell

> In the UK, tv companies can use pre-recorded music with very little > financial outlay and merely by signing a few release forms. I now find > myself not competing with Hans Zimmer or Elliot Gouldentahl, but Arvo Part, > Steve Reich and Miles Davis...............composers not o

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Re: Wiard (or Blacet) modules that work as voltage inverters?

2004-06-27 by (i think you can figure that out)

In another word: Blacet Mixer/Processor. OK OK OK - that's three words. --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Chang" wrote: > In a word, MIXOLATOR. > > gary > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" wrote: > > Are there any? Maybe the Blacet Mixer-Processor? > > > > Thanks,

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Switched on holy..s

2004-06-27 by (i think you can figure that out)

Gary - Reagrdng the Bach: MAN - i LOVE that TC reverb!!!!!! Great job. I dig the doubling on the left hand counterpoint - really, really cool. - P

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Switched On Konkuro

2004-06-27 by Gary Chang

Please find posted in the files section "Switched On Konkuro" - Bach 2 Part Invention #1, which I have entitled "the crow variation" (hmmm I hear that they are mighty tasty this time of the year....) All Wiard - all parts realtime. One pass. Of, course, all due respect to Ms. Car

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-27 by Chris Whitten

> ...and you end up with 379 TV Shows, documentaries, movies or album > projects that had "Digital Native Dance" on them all at the same time. LOL. Yeah I remember that. The same is becoming true of the samples on 'Distorted Reality' IMO. The same guy is probably responsible for

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sorry for the format weirdness

2004-06-27 by drmabuce

Hi All, I apologize to anyone trying to make sense of my last post. My prose is convoluted and oblique enough as it is without the added challenge of trying to read around randomly embedded = signs. This has been a long-standing battle, and if anyone has any sure fire remedies i'

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-27 by Les Mizzell

This is a great discussion, by the way. I know it's not Wiard specific, but..... > Years ago, I saw the trend in the music industry - everybody had a > garage sale in December, selling off this year's instruments so that > we had money buy the new gear at NAMM in January; ...and

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-27 by grantrichter2001

> these instruments - the patch potential of the factory designed > system. The genius was the systems, not the modules. > >> > Not ot blow my own horn but, the original six Wiard mdoules were configured as a system. The Woggle Bug and Borg Filters expanded that system. But it is

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Re: Wiard (or Blacet) modules that work as voltage inverters?

2004-06-27 by grantrichter2001

That is a longish technical discussion. Zero is an important number in math because zero times anything is zero, so you can use it to shut modulation sources "off". There are two types of inputs traditionally used. One is a uni-polar that goes from zero to a positive value. This

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-27 by Chris Whitten

> A keyboard is essentially a voltage divider and consequently > requires the oscillator to track accurately. With a sequencer, > however, you adust the voltage of each stage or key individually. > That's why even the cheapest oscillator can be used. That works if you're using on

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-27 by davevosh@aol.com

In a message dated 6/27/2004 2:15:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drmabuce@yahoo.com writes: BIG Thanx to all of you for `opening the kimono' for this discussion -Doc doc, too much philosophy for so late on a saturday night.......................... :^) whether system or assemblage

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-27 by kirkdegiorgio

"If you're doing any type symphonic simulations, playing with all ten fingers is the last thing you want to do. String section? Not gonna sound right unless 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th violin parts are all played separately. Same for any other section. Even if you're not doing "symphon

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-27 by drmabuce

Hi Gary First off, The June posts on this group contain such a terrific `sign= al-to-noise' ratio that I have to double-check to make sure this is REALLY t= he internet on my screen! Many thanks to ALL of you for providing hard evide= nce that refutes my theory that the web (led

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by Gary Chang

> > The reason I asked why you would use a Buchla is that I know and > > know of several people who do what you do---NONE of them use analog > > except for window dressing to impress clients. Time is money. Who > > has the time to diddle with patches and record monophonically whe

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by konkuro

I wrote: >>Even a PAIA 2700 oscillator can be used accurately with a sequencer, as each note is individually set. I don't understand that logic. Konkuro, from your comments about dance music and the Buchla (which you've never used) I really don't think you know what you're talkin

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Re: Seduced?

2004-06-26 by konkuro

Paul wrote: >there is nothing more disheartening than to have total strangers post whatever comes into their heads in public Internet groups about your stuff. Especially if they don't *own* any. We all dream of having a 'real' company, where there are say 4 assemblers, a material

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by Chris Whitten

Interesting comments Les. They mirror my experiences. > Sure, you could plop all ten fingers down on preset #27 and let the > resulting pad morph away for 30 seconds and "that's good enough for this > scene, let's move on" but what you just did sounds just like 1273 other > folks

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by Chris Whitten

> The reason I asked why you would use a Buchla is that I know and > know of several people who do what you do---NONE of them use analog > except for window dressing to impress clients. Time is money. Who > has the time to diddle with patches and record monophonically when > you

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by Les Mizzell

> Time is money. Who > has the time to diddle with patches and record monophonically when > you can push a button and play with all ten fingers? Ooo...I could go on and on about this one... If you're doing any type symphonic simulations, playing with all ten fingers is the last t

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by Chris Whitten

>If you are referring to the 258 oscillators, I can see > that they are hard to get to track together, because they only have > variable scale CV inputs, but it is possible. In fact I'm using 258 Oscillators with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. As I've stated before, I can position tunin

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-26 by konkuro

Gino wrote: >My point is, try using the Buchla to create equally tempered "traditional" music. It's entirely within the realm of possibility. Yes it was designed by and for people looking for new means of expression. But once you get your hands dirty with one, it's goes nearly an

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Seduced?

2004-06-26 by Paul Schreiber

Here are important lessons I think both Grant & I have learned (still learning?) from the last couple of years. 1) there is nothing more rewarding than to have somebody you know and respect (Gary Chang/Robert Rich) not only *say* they like your modules, but actually *use* them in

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Chris Whitten

> Are you using > your Buchla to play melodies with a keyboard? Yes, the touchplate style keyboard. >Are you multitracking > such melodies? Sometimes. Why not? > Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are you using an analog > for that kind of work? I don't see how that ca

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by Robair, Gino

Everyone on the list is familiar with your background by now, Konkuro, and I'm certainly not trying to say you don't know what you're talking about in terms of synthesis overall.. My point is, try using the Buchla to create equally tempered "traditional" music. It's entirely with

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RE: Daxophone

2004-06-25 by Robair, Gino

The Hans Reichel CD on Rastascan is particularly good and features the daxophone: http://www.rastascan.com/catalog/brd016.html :-) g. > ---------- > From: Les Mizzell > Reply To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:00 AM > To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com >

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Re: fartin' in the church

2004-06-25 by verbos2002

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "konkuro" wrote: > Chris wrote: > > >As I said, I'm using Buchla modules constantly for mainstream > melodic parts in television music scores. I've found the Buchla > Oscillators have tremendous low end for dance music and/or Drum n > Bass type

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