While the calibre of posts on this forum is generally quite high (the Grant/Paul posts have been particularly insightful) Gary gets my "Post of the Month" award. It's a bit frustrating, though-- there's nothing to argue with! :-) johnm --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Chang" <gchang@c...> wrote: > East Coast, West Coast, Middle Coast.... > > As far as I can see, the caveat about the current state of the art of > offering eleventy million modules and having each customer choose is > there is no pedigological developement because everyone's instrument > is different. > > Discussions about patches are more like Bob Villas' home improvement > show - which is really designed to sell tools. Why develop skill when > you simply add a few more modules? > > I think that this utopian philosophy of providing choices for a > customer minus the bias of a system design is like offering people > parts to a guitar, expecting the average person or new comer to know > what to buy and how to put it together. > > What made a Buchla, a Moog, a Wavemaker, Electrocomp 100, Korg MS20, > or a 2600 isn't what biases the designer pandered to in module design > - it was that they were created by people who were trying to design a > complete music system - not simply providing a comprehensive catalog > of modules. > > What makes a 2600 or a Music Easel great is not the module-for- module > comparisons with other synths - it is the subsystems that exist in > these instruments - the patch potential of the factory designed > system. The genius was the systems, not the modules. > > Minimoogs are not just a ladder filter - they are also the choices Bob > made on the patch and keyboard retriggering of the filter, and the > choices of keyboard tracking, the cv response of the vca... > > The same idiosyncratic design elements are found all of the classic > systems. Modular systems reflected similar biases - Buchlas had quad > VCA and Envelope modules, insuring that most Buchla systems had many > more of these than found on Moogs and Arps. Why? Because there > aren't any LFOs on a Buchla. This doesn't mean that you can't make > normal sounds - it means that you have to think differently. (Imagine > that). > > Additional modules were offered as additional complement, but, by and > large, many of us spent our first experiences in front of a factory > designed system. > > Can you make West Coast Music on an East Coast synth? Who came up > with these terms? Is the music of Columbia Princeton in the 60s any > less far out than that of "West Coast?" Many "bug music" pieces have > been made on Moog and Arp systems. > > You might say that Buchlas and Wiards are the Macs in a world > dominated by Windows. Most pros have both kinds - discussing which is > better is a moot point. > > How dare any of us to presume the potential of any of these > instruments? As if the human playing these devices have no bearing on > what we hear - it is predetermined by the circuit design - bullshit! > > > Are they over valued? They are what they are. > > 7 years ago, I bought a Buchla Music Easel for $8,000. 5 years later, > I sold it for $8,000. You might say that I borrowed it for five > years, leaving an $8k security deposit, which was returned to me when > I passed it on. > > > Gary > > > P.S. > > The Wiard systems doesn't need more midcoast modules. That is easily > provided by a little bit of Midcoast thinking from the one standing > before it with the patchcords.
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Re: Please support Original Design
2004-06-25 by konkuro
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