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Re: [wiardgroup] Live Wiard?

2004-07-03 by Doug Pearson

At 04:22 PM 7/2/04 -0500, "Robair, Gino" wrote: >Allow me to begin the preaching to the choir {now that we're all seated >again...) mi ... mi mi mi mi ... la la la la ... aaaaaaaaaaaaaah (can we harmonize some dissonant intervals?) >I'm curious to hear how folks on the list are u

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Live Wiard?

2004-07-02 by Robair, Gino

Allow me to begin the preaching to the choir {now that we're all seated again...) I'm curious to hear how folks on the list are using their instruments live. Anyone care to share their thoughts on the subject?

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by Robair, Gino

> We'll hold ya to that! :-) -----Original Message----- From: konkuro [mailto:konkuro@aol.com] Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 3:56 PM To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com Cc: Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe Doug wins the Konkuro Sangrael Award(TM), for a post t

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by konkuro

Doug wins the Konkuro Sangrael Award(TM), for a post that sums the whole discussion up perfectly. Excellent! It would make a good article. Fully sated, I can now take my leave. Thanks once again to Grant and the gang for the posts, demos and a generally engaging and educational e

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by konkuro

Gino wrote: >Too much *boring* activity. I joined this group to learn Wiard- related tips and tricks from Wiard users,... So you would rather preach to the choir? Talk about boring. >...not to debate the merits of OT items with someone who doesn't use, own... ...or appreciate the

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by Chris Whitten

> not to debate the merits of OT items with someone who doesn't use, own, or > appreciate the design and use of this unique set of modules. LOL My last word: Artistry beats academia every time. I know at least one of the Fab Four is astonished at the study of theory in popular mu

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by Robair, Gino

Too much *boring* activity. I joined this group to learn Wiard-related tips and tricks from Wiard users, not to debate the merits of OT items with someone who doesn't use, own, or appreciate the design and use of this unique set of modules. Go pester the Doepfer list for awhile,

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by Doug Pearson

At 04:16 PM 7/1/04 +0000, "grantrichter2001" wrote: > > Grant, is that you trolling... :-) > >Guilty as charged. > >However the reviewer raises an interesting point. To use an >analogy of visual painting. > >Electronic music equipment designers have created a box of >paints so en

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RE: [wiardgroup] Wiardness (how/what do you do your Wiard Modules)

2004-07-02 by Robair, Gino

Borg? What about that Boogie? > --------- > From: spacemodular > Reply To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2004 7:58 PM > To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [wiardgroup] Wiardness (how/what do you do your Wiard Modules) > > Hey, > > I am on a mission t

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Re: Wiardness (how/what do you do your Wiard Modules)

2004-07-02 by spacemodular

Gino wrote: > Borg? What about that Boogie? Different filter - but that would be cool too! The Borg has gone through a number of permutations, so why not one more? Still got to get another Noise Ring and a JAG! Anyway, what you been doing with your Wiards Gino? Best, Nick p.s. mo

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by Ingo Zobel

--- grantrichter2001 schrieb: > > Grant, is that you trolling... :-) > > > > Guilty as charged. > > However the reviewer raises an interesting point. To use an > analogy of visual painting. > > Electronic music equipment designers have created a box of > paints so enormous that y

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by konkuro

Too much activity for you? johnm BTW, if amu pf you have heard the "OHM" CD anthology, you will know what the reviewer was talking about. --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Robair, Gino" wrote: > *yawn* > > Wake me up when you folks are done... > Zzzzzzzzzz > > > ---------- > >

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RE: [wiardgroup] Wiardness (how/what do you do your Wiard Modules)

2004-07-02 by John Loffink

> -----Original Message----- > From: spacemodular [mailto:spacemodular@yahoo.com] > > I am on a mission to build a Dual Voice Noise Chaos Performance Modular... You forgot the (TM). :-) John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemak

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RE: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-02 by John Loffink

Grant, You are hereby invited to visit my home studio anytime and see whether I any part of my modular is beyond my capacity to apply musically. :-) John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site http://www.w

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Wiardness (how/what do you do your Wiard Modules)

2004-07-02 by spacemodular

Hey, I am on a mission to build a Dual Voice Noise Chaos Performance Modular... I am creating synchronous/asynchronous rhythm melody noise loops and playing leads over such theramin style. Floating free between Ambient, Nois= e and Electronic styles & techniques. Doing things WRO

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by Scott Stites

Grant Richter wrote: " But we haven't begun to understand how to apply the simplest ADSR from the 60's, much less advanced designs like a MARF." That's a sentiment I've been trying to express for a long while now, it's just never come out that succinctly. It cracks me up to see s

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by Robair, Gino

*yawn* Wake me up when you folks are done... Zzzzzzzzzz > ---------- > From: konkuro > Reply To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2004 2:43 PM > To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe > > Just as I

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by konkuro

Just as I was saddling up my pinto to ride into the sunset, you HAD to go ahead and post that review. Haven't read the book, but couldn't agree with the reviewer more. Outside of the fact that his style is even more bilious than my own, *jai pence,* the man is outright inspired.

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Re: Kudos To Konkuro!(???)

2004-07-01 by konkuro

*Whew* For a minute there, I thought "whoosh" was the sound of a toilet flushing. :-) Don't know that I agree with your post, but it was a very good read. johnm --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" wrote: >> - and my effulgently lucent wisdom guide the current crop of sy

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Re: Kudos To Konkuro!(???)

2004-07-01 by drmabuce

Part of me knows better than to do this (but that part lost the toss this time) --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "konkuro" wrote: >>Dudes, this is *equipment,* not an effing Christmas tree! Superfluity has no place in the modular realm. There is music to be made! (An aside: How

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by davevosh@aol.com

In a message dated 7/1/2004 12:41:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, grichter@asapnet.net writes: and I am designing for a future that may never occur at all. grant, but the trying to get to that future is half the fun ! keep up the brilliant design work, us martians love it ! best, da

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Re: Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by grantrichter2001

> Grant, is that you trolling... :-) > Guilty as charged. However the reviewer raises an interesting point. To use an analogy of visual painting. Electronic music equipment designers have created a box of paints so enormous that you can't lift the lid anymore. Or, if you can get

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RE: [wiardgroup] Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by John Loffink

I'm with ingo on this, and completely disagree with the "Electric Sound" reviewer. He/she seems to have fit their impinged their own philosophy on Chadabe's book and used that as reasoning to slam the entire experimental or electronic music scene. Some specific points: Agreed, th

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-07-01 by Chris Whitten

> This will enrage some people, but the Buchla is just > a musical footnote. Outside of a very small circle, it's virtually > unknown. It doesn't enrage me. Perhaps the invisibility of the Buchla is more due to lack of availability, high price and possible failures in marketing w

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Re: [wiardgroup] Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by Ingo Zobel

hello grant, a really interesting post. i believe that the modern times allow people to do their own style of music, which doesn't have to fit into categories. lots of people do music for themselves and they don't have other listeners in their mind, they don't have to make a livi

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-07-01 by konkuro

Chris wrote: >This was Johnm's quote: >>It's like seeing a fine painting by David or Ingres vs. dog crap thrown at a canvas. Progress ebbs and flows, and the 20th Century in many ways has been an artistic Dark Age as sure as the 11th Century was a scientific Dark Age. I guess you

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Re: Kudos To Konkuro!(?)

2004-07-01 by konkuro

Gary wrote: >Now that it appears that we all have had to put our collective heads back into the sand, I would like to say thank you to Konkuro for dropping the cigarette in this forrest that led to the firestorm of communication this past week. I suppose that it is adversity that

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Review of "Electric Sound" by Joel Chadabe

2004-07-01 by grantrichter2001

I found this on Amazon.com in a reader's review. Pretty tough stuff. An interesting observation about the technology being more lively than the users... "Although there was a spate of published historical surveys of electronic music during the early-to-mid 1970's, with the except

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-07-01 by konkuro

Doug wrote: >(John, seriously, given the opinions you've expressed about "art" and "beauty", you would probably find most of the music I've worked on to be offensive [some of it probably could be characterized as the aural equivalent of "dog crap on canvas"], and the remainder to

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Re: [wiardgroup] Kudos To Konkuro!(?)

2004-06-30 by Chris Whitten

> Now that it appears that we all have had to put our collective heads > back into the sand Ouch. Apologies for popping my head up again.........albeit briefly. CW

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Please support Original Design

2004-06-30 by Chris Whitten

> (hmmm ... things seem to have calmed down here, so maybe I should keep my > mouth shut, but, no, sorry ...) LOL. I'd kind of given up as it seemed like I was wasting my time. I still think I am.....but anyway.......... > but I > believe Chris when he says that there is great, u

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-30 by Doug Pearson

(hmmm ... things seem to have calmed down here, so maybe I should keep my mouth shut, but, no, sorry ...) At 09:01 AM 6/29/04 +0000, "konkuro" wrote: >Doug: Thank you for pointing me to the correct posts. Kindly note, >howe'er, that I did NOT edit your statement, nor did I give a

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Re: Kudos To Konkuro!(?)

2004-06-30 by Gary Chang

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Whitten wrote: > > Now that it appears that we all have had to put our collective heads > > back into the sand > Ouch. > Apologies for popping my head up again.........albeit briefly. > CW I should have said, "Now that I am putting my head

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Kudos To Konkuro!(?)

2004-06-30 by Gary Chang

Now that it appears that we all have had to put our collective heads back into the sand, I would like to say thank you to Konkuro for dropping the cigarette in this forrest that led to the firestorm of communication this past week. I suppose that it is adversity that exposes what

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by Chris Whitten

> Did I miss the point again? Not only that, but introduced another pile of do into the discussion. To paraphrase your summation of post millennium music. There is SO much great music in the classical repertoire from the last 20 years. I agree with Doug, much of it doesn't get pl

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by daviD

> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:49:35 -0000 > From: "konkuro" >Subject: Re: Please support Original Design >After all, why should a modular be portable? They are by nature studio >instruments. A portable modular makes about as much sense as a >portable multi-track recorder. Hmm, we o

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RE: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by John Loffink

Very well stated Doug. Some of us use the modular synthesizer as a real time control surface, whether performing or recording live, playing the knobs, not the keys. I spent three years of synth VA (Reaktor back when it was Generator) and another 10 years before that in non-realti

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by konkuro

Doug: Thank you for pointing me to the correct posts. Kindly note, howe'er, that I did NOT edit your statement, nor did I give any indication that it was a quotation. It was a paraphrase. The problem was that I didn't give the proper weight to the word "repertoire." Now I think I

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by konkuro

Note the word "essentially." johnm (On yet another computer with screen 10 miles away from keyboard.) --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Whitten wrote: > > Modulars on > > stage are essentially window dressing. > I think your biggest credibility problem is via your compulsi

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by Doug Pearson

At 04:08 AM 6/29/04 +0000, "konkuro" wrote: > >Some of us carry them to gigs, you know (this is nothing new ... > >... Moog modulars contained the designation "p" ... > >Only because there was no practical choice at the time. Modulars on >stage are essentially window dressing. An

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Re: [wiardgroup] Anyone own both the Blacet Final and Filthy filters?

2004-06-29 by Ingo Zobel

hello 7, it is all a matter of taste, but i'd go for the filthy filtre. it sounds fatter than the final filtre and it is more versatile (multimode). best wishes ingo --- chorus72000 schrieb: > Hi All,7 here. Anyone own the Blacet Final filter and the Filthy > filter? I'm wonderin

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Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by konkuro

>You're joking, right? Some of us carry them to gigs, you know (this is nothing new, I seem to recall that certain of the original series of Moog modulars contained the designation "p" as part of the system name). (John, I find it amusing that you complain about Chris selectively

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RE: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by John Loffink

And if bare or populated PC boards are made available, then these can be adapted to almost any format and everyone wins. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site http://www.wavemakers-synth.com > -----O

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RE: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by John Loffink

What an awesome idea! I'll get started on some Wavemakers format modules right now. We certainly can't have enough formats out there. :-) FWIW, there were three Wavemakers formats. Only the first was a true modular, 10 inch high panels and 2, 4, 6 or 8 inches wide. These had ligh

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RE: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-29 by John Loffink

Having done .125 inch thick backplanes PC boards, I can tell you that will be thick enough not to flex. But then it is not so cheap anymore. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site http://www.wavemaker

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Re: Switched On Konkuro

2004-06-29 by konkuro

Chris wrote: >I don't think you should worry too much. Obviously people read your original post and could make up their own minds. But why put in the negative observation? I wasn't being too serious in my comments, but I was sincerely blown away that Gary went to any effort at al

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Please support Original Design

2004-06-28 by Les Mizzell

> "no orchestral music being written within the last 150 years" (6/25 > 12:17AM); most of the orchestral music being written these days does > NOT make it into the repertoire of symphony orchestras and is only > heard by the composer's faculty advisor[s] - My guess would be that

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