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XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-17 by dwoodaman

Hi all -
I know rEalm can do this with Cubase - hell, what can't he do??? - but
has anyone done anything with using the XL to control say volume and
panning for mixing? I have read that it can be difficult to set up a
"generic" control surface so any info would be greatly appreciated.
thx

Re: [xl7] XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-17 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

I know rEalm can do this with Cubase - hell, what can't he do??? 

>>>Drink 14 redbull vodkas while playing the starspangled banner on my 
kazoo for starters.... <<<

Has anyone done anything with using the XL to control say volume and 
panning for mixing? I have read that it can be difficult to set up a 
"generic" control surface so any info would be greatly appreciated.

>>>Can't speak for Sonar specifically, but since the XX-7's send standard 
CC's for volume and pan (#7 and #11 respectively), I can't imagine this 
would be too hard.  If it turns out to be difficult but doable, let me 
know and I'll add it to the FAQ. <<<

rEalm








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Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-18 by steve_the_composer

Could you explain what you are trying to do?  I finally got a machine 
to run Sonar 3 but haven't gotten around to designing control 
surfaces.  It is something I might like to do.  

--Steve_the_explorer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwoodaman" <dwoodaman@y...> wrote:
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> Hi all -
> I know rEalm can do this with Cubase - hell, what can't he do??? -
> but has anyone done anything with using the XL to control say
> volume and panning for mixing? I have read that it can be difficult
> to set up a "generic" control surface so any info would be greatly
> appreciated.
> thx

Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-18 by steve_the_composer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I know rEalm can do this with Cubase - hell, what can't he do??? 
> 
> >>>Drink 14 redbull vodkas while playing the starspangled banner on
> my kazoo for starters.... <<<

I saw those e-kazoo's listed for sale on e-bay, but I thought i was a 
joke!!!  Do you have one? (or more?)  Does it have pitch to midi 
conversion?

--steve

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-18 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

LOL, I was just kidding....

rEalm





I saw those e-kazoo's listed for sale on e-bay, but I thought i was a 
joke!!!  Do you have one? (or more?)  Does it have pitch to midi 
conversion?

--steve




 
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Kazoo to MIDI: false alarm :-(

2004-08-19 by steve_the_composer

Well, I did some quick research and found the Kazooka Home Page.  
Unfortunately, it doesn't have midi.  :-(

http://www.broadjam.com/artists/artistindex.asp?artistID=7034

As a former kazoo, jaw harp, and washtub bass player, I regret that 
the MMA never seriously advocated for the development of a midified 
kazoo!

--steve_the_former_jug_band_member [summer camp '69]

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
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> LOL, I was just kidding....
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> I saw those e-kazoo's listed for sale on e-bay, but I thought i was
> a joke!!!  Do you have one? (or more?)  Does it have pitch to midi 
> conversion?
> 
> --steve
>

Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-19 by steve_the_composer

I have just started teaching myself Sonar 3. I took a look at the 
generic control surfaces, had trouble with the tutorial, and had two 
phone conversations with tech support.  I will try some testing over 
the next few days and might be able to test a setup that meets your 
needs and gives me some ideas for my own use of control surfaces.

For starters, (1) what hardware controls in the E-Mu do you want to 
have control in Sonar and (2) what do you want them to control?

--Steve

BTW: So far I figured out three things in Sonar 3:

(1) To asign control surfaces:
--(a) Click Options | Control Surfaces
--(b) Click the Yellow +
--(c) Select Cakewalk Generic Surface
--(d) Select Input and Output Ports
[This assumes you already have your midi devices identified via 
Options | Midi Devices.]

(2) To put a Control Surfaces drop down menu on the tool bar:
--(a) Click View | Toolbars
--(b) Select Control Surface
[Once you have done this, you have an icon shortcut to the Control 
Surfaces Properties--where you do the set up.]

(3) To open the Control Surface Setup Dialog
--Method 1:
--(a) Select the surface in the toolbar display. (See (2) above.)
--(b) Click the Properties icon
--Method 2:
--(a) Click Tools
--(b) Select the surface you want to set up. (Step (1) above adds 
them to the Tools menu.)

I got a little further, but not ready to spell out the details.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwoodaman" <dwoodaman@y...> wrote:
> Hi all -
> I know rEalm can do this with Cubase - hell, what can't he do??? - 
but
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> has anyone done anything with using the XL to control say volume and
> panning for mixing? I have read that it can be difficult to set up a
> "generic" control surface so any info would be greatly appreciated.
> thx

Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-19 by steve_the_composer

Succesful tests:  

(1) I created a test control surface as follows:
MidiA -> MidiI (knobs) control the volume of midi tracks 1 - 9 
respectively.

(2) I recorded the automation of:
MidiA -> MidiI [E-Mu] controlling the volume changes [Sonar].
[2 tests conducted: midi, digital audio]

I will see if I can duplicate my methodology tomorrow.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
> I have just started teaching myself Sonar 3 . . . .

Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-20 by dwoodaman

Cool!
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Succesful tests:  
> 
> (1) I created a test control surface as follows:
> MidiA -> MidiI (knobs) control the volume of midi tracks 1 - 9 
> respectively.
> 
> (2) I recorded the automation of:
> MidiA -> MidiI [E-Mu] controlling the volume changes [Sonar].
> [2 tests conducted: midi, digital audio]
> 
> I will see if I can duplicate my methodology tomorrow.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
> > I have just started teaching myself Sonar 3 . . . .

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 to control Sonar mixes

2004-08-20 by michael woods

Off the topic, but where can I find a cakewalk instrument definition for the PX7 or the Protean Drums Rom?
Michael

dwoodaman <dwoodaman@...> wrote:
Cool!
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> Succesful tests:  
> 
> (1) I created a test control surface as follows:
> MidiA -> MidiI (knobs) control the volume of midi tracks 1 - 9 
> respectively.
> 
> (2) I recorded the automation of:
> MidiA -> MidiI [E-Mu] controlling the volume changes [Sonar].
> [2 tests conducted: midi, digital audio]
> 
> I will see if I can duplicate my methodology tomorrow.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
> > I have just started teaching myself Sonar 3 . . . .


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