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2002-11-22 by Bill Sequeira
> From: "konkuro" > Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 02:41:27 -0000 > To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [wiardgroup] Fwd: [AH] Re: Synth Graphics, speaking of which > [...8 > Oh, I disagree. Just because something causes a reaction doesn't > m
2002-11-22 by konkuro
Bill wrote: >I took a look, thanks for sharing. Given that I have only the benefit of the small pic, it appears -from this design- that you are an advocate for panel graphics that support the visual understanding of the functionality of an instrument, that are legible, that separ
2002-11-22 by jrbulldogge
> I'll do more than that; I'll show you. If you go to the Photos > section, and click on the Mitchell folder, you will find a picture of > a vocoder I built in 1980. Although there are things I'd change > today, it will give you some idea of where I'm coming from. This > folder a
2002-11-22 by konkuro
>Other small synthesizer companies seem to have no trouble issuing >different modules with different panels. I refer you to >Synthesizers.com, Synthtech, Modcan, Cyndustries, et al. ^^^^^^^^^ Norman Fay wrote: >Just by the by, if you look at ModCan's product line, you'll see that
2002-11-22 by konkuro
Bill wrote: >No problem, I personally do not care for cubism either and have my own opinions about. However, I can't discount its place within the art movement regardless of what I think. Sometimes these "gimmicks" are stepping stones, and we have to let them happen (or tolerate
2002-11-21 by Norman Fay
In message , konkuro writes > >Other small synthesizer companies seem to have no trouble issuing >different modules with different panels. I refer you to >Synthesizers.com, Synthtech, Modcan, Cyndustries, et al. ^^^^^^^^^ Just by the by, if you look at ModCan's product line, you'
2002-11-21 by Mike Fisher
This can be found on the Wiard site's "Sounds" page. Don't know about that kick, though... On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 12:17 PM, its_peake wrote: > Hi, if someone has this mp3 (no longer found in the Files > section), please email it to Konkuro/Johnm. It's beautiful > and
2002-11-21 by noisejazz
Is there a picture of the faceplate of the noise ring available yet? I have looked at the schematics and listened to the demo's etc, but I am still not sure of the front panel config. I cant wait to see the finished module. Regards Steve m.
2002-11-21 by Chris Whitten
>Pardon my disagreement, but cubanism, along with every process adaptation ............ I wondered how long it would be before you Yanks started blaming Fidel Castro for the Wiard LED's. CW
2002-11-21 by its_peake
Ah, thanks! Direct link: http://www.wiard.com/samples/samples.html And there it is, right at the top left. The kick was indeed done on the Wiard. Impressive :-) Easier, -Mike --- In wiardgroup@y..., Mike Fisher wrote: > This can be found on the Wiard site's "Sounds" page. Don't k
2002-11-21 by its_peake
Hi, if someone has this mp3 (no longer found in the Files section), please email it to Konkuro/Johnm. It's beautiful and a good example of the clarity and character of the Wiard, as well as of the systems' capacity for "tonal music". Is it 100% Wiard? I want to know how to do tha
2002-11-21 by mark verbos
Not that this matters, but "oe" is how you write "ö" when you have not the option for the umlaut. FYI mark JR Ross wrote: >Konkuro wrote: > >>So get a cheap honky-tonk piano to bang on and >>reserve the Boesendorpher, if that's how you spell >>it, for the real deal >> > >Bosendor
2002-11-21 by Peter Grenader
I can't believe I'm throwing my two cents in here. Pardon my disagreement, but cubanism, along with every process adaptation which has come about in every art form, is NOT a gimmick. It was a process, which along with pointallism and Stravinsky's (at the time considered unorthodo
2002-11-21 by skuehnl
Mark is our expert at German linguistics and soft porn. --- In wiardgroup@y..., mark verbos wrote: > Not that this matters, but "oe" is how you write "ö" when you have not > the option for the umlaut. > > FYI > > mark > > JR Ross wrote: > > >Konkuro wrote: > > > >>So get a cheap
2002-11-21 by skuehnl
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > >> It takes a great deal of talent, skill and time to create > a painting of a person that looks like a person, and any defects in > such a painting will be immediately apparent to all eyes, trained > or untrained, because we all know wh
2002-11-21 by Bill Sequeira
> From: "konkuro" > > Forgot to address this one... > > Bill wrote: > >> If Picasso had followed konkuro's statement we would've never seen > cubism appear. > Cubism, like pointillism, was a gimmick. It was mannerism in the > true sense of the word. That is, the WAY in which the
2002-11-21 by Derrick
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > Grant wrote: > > An instrument, by definition, is a > means to an end. It is the *music* that matters. Thus, well-laid- out > modules and meaningful names are of paramount importance. They are > tools, not doilies. > > As for the LEDs, I
2002-11-21 by Haven Siguenza
>> How is this an aid to the imagination? > How does a florid Celtic design aid the imagination of a kid who > wants to produce distorted, mechanical techno? > > johnm I don't think most kids could afford a Wiard. And I think most kids presently would just use a stomp box and a d
2002-11-21 by konkuro
Forgot to address this one... Bill wrote: >If Picasso had followed konkuro's statement we would've never seen cubism appear.
2002-11-21 by its_peake
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > >> Maybe it's just me, but I think signal generation and processing > equipment that aspires to be professional should look the part. > As such, it should be characterized by a functional and *dignified* > exterior. > >That is exactly wh
2002-11-21 by JR Ross
Konkuro wrote: >So get a cheap honky-tonk piano to bang on and >reserve the Boesendorpher, if that's how you spell >it, for the real deal Bosendorfer, with an umlaut over the first "o". K: >A tri-colored LED is a lightshow. Perhaps in certain cases, but the one on my MoogerFooger
2002-11-21 by konkuro
>> It takes a great deal of talent, skill and time to create a painting of a person that looks like a person, and any defects in such a painting will be immediately apparent to all eyes, trained or untrained, because we all know what a person is supposed to look like. This is a h
2002-11-21 by konkuro
>> Lights have a purpose, just as knobs and switches have a purpose. If the idea of LEDs is to entertain moreso than inform, then what you have is a toy or mere stage dressing. Why not go all the way and add spinning disks, glowing red dials, Jacob's ladders and other gewgaws? Yo
2002-11-21 by konkuro
Grant wrote: >The idea that form should follow function, is a very recent invention of the Bauhaus. It is convenient, because it reduces the cost of manufacture, and therefore widely accepted in the machine age. But it is by no means a religion. Think about it, why should form fo
2002-11-21 by its_peake
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > >The only way you will ever have a clue as to how far beyond an > everyday > synth (like a Moog) a Wiard can take > you is by buying one and spending hours with it. It sounds like that > will > never happen. > What makes you say that? Jo
2002-11-21 by grantrichter2001
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "Matthew Davidson" wrote: > > The human race has traditionally recognized two distinct > > classes of objects: Functional objects and aesthetic objects. > > I respectfully submit that efficient design can transform a > functional object into an aesthetic o
2002-11-21 by konkuro
Rick wrote: > The Wiard is a handmade instrument that took several years to develope and refine. To keep costs down (you complain about the price) certain things, like using a universal faceplate, had to be done. Would you be willing to pay twice the price or more for a module to
2002-11-21 by konkuro
Mike Fisher wrote: >My intended point was that if the system is so egregious (which at times seems to be what you're suggesting), why is there a group of level-headed, more or less sane individuals who are quite knowledgeable on the topic yet happy using/having purchased it? Is i
2002-11-20 by konkuro
>>Depends on the pudding. Just because a synth is expensive does not make it good. I can think of a popular, pricey synth whose ADSRs don't even have visual indicators. But to each his own. Moog ADSRs? No visual indicators, 2 trims required to get the 'hump' out of the output, no
2002-11-20 by ringmod45
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > RM wrote: > > BTW, many of your points went unaddressed because I feel we are > pretty much on the same page. Now, what's the address of that friend > who is so liberal with lending his Wiard? :-) > > johnm Unfortunately, he sold it, thu
2002-11-20 by Auto-Bot
> > Again I disagree. Art is a form of communication. > What good > would > > Tolstoy have been if his novels were written only for > himself? > Of > > what use would Mozart have been if he had locked > himself in a > closet > > and composed music for his ears only? Creating musi
2002-11-20 by Bill Sequeira
One interesting tidbit. If Picasso had followed konkuro's statement we would've never seen cubism appear. Sometimes you have to consciously (or unconsciously) alter your aim to arrive to new and interesting things. Serendipity indeed plays a role. We could discuss the aesthetics
2002-11-20 by Matthew Davidson
> The human race has traditionally recognized two distinct > classes of objects: Functional objects and aesthetic objects. I respectfully submit that efficient design can transform a functional object into an aesthetic object without additional ornamentation. I think it is safe t
2002-11-20 by grantrichter2001
> I make envelope generators that are also oscillators (and call > them Envelators) it establishes that my view of reality is relatively > pliable. I believe two sincere people can disagree, and both be > right. The universe is large enough to contain multiple > simultaneous real
2002-11-20 by grantrichter2001
> Again I disagree. Art is a form of communication. What good would > Tolstoy have been if his novels were written only for himself? Of > what use would Mozart have been if he had locked himself in a closet > and composed music for his ears only? Creating music for oneself is > e
2002-11-20 by skuehnl
Konkuro wrote: > It takes a great deal of talent, skill and time to create > a painting of a person that looks like a person, and any defects in > such a painting will be immediately apparent to all eyes, trained > or untrained, because we all know what a person is supposed to lo
2002-11-20 by grantrichter2001
> Lights have a purpose, just as knobs and switches have a purpose. If > the idea of LEDs is to entertain moreso than inform, then what you > have is a toy or mere stage dressing. Why not go all the way and add > spinning disks, glowing red dials, Jacob's ladders and other gewgaw
2002-11-20 by R
Well, I have been very entertained for the last week. Thank you guys. This discussion brought on by John ( I think that is his name ) seems to have made everyone ( including myself ) re-examine our feelings about aesthetics, art, music, synthesizers, Wendy Carlos, face plates, et
2002-11-20 by Mike Fisher
> Depends on the pudding. Just because a synth is expensive does not > make it good. I can think of a popular, pricey synth whose ADSRs > don't even have visual indicators. But to each his own. Okay, that was probably a poor choice on my part - yes, of course there's expensive cr
2002-11-20 by grantrichter2001
> But this is like the cart driving the horse. "Well, we have these > uniform panels with the same number of holes in them, so we had > better fill them with functions whether they are called for or not." > It's kind of like designing different cars, from Volkswagens to > Audis,
2002-11-20 by Paul Schreiber
> > Depends on the pudding. Just because a synth is > expensive does not > make it good. I can think of a popular, pricey > synth whose ADSRs > don't even have visual indicators. But to each his > own. > Moog ADSRs? No visual indicators, 2 trims required to get the 'hump' out of
2002-11-20 by Chris Whitten
I think it was inspired by a mix of Arp 2600 and Buchla.
2002-11-20 by mark verbos
Buchlas also use 1/8" connectors. konkuro wrote: > > >Now that I think of it, if the Wiard is more Buchloid than Moogesque >in its conception, why doesn't it use banana jacks? > >johnm > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >wiardgroup-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
2002-11-20 by konkuro
Mike Peake wrote: >It sounds like the Wiard is a piece of interactive art. An artistically engraved katana is still a deadly weapon... "What is this piece of music about? It's about itself!" -composer's name temporarily misplaced..
2002-11-20 by konkuro
Mike Fisher wrote: >One thing to consider is the concept of the dollar-vote. The Wiard is not an inexpensive instrument, yet there are a lot of people here who use one happily and feel their money well-spent. Perhaps there's something to say for "the proof is in the pudding", so
2002-11-20 by konkuro
RM wrote: >Art is the transformation of the unknown by way of process and spirit. Sometimes accidents produce some elegant and not so elegant results. To keep it in the Arena of Painting, how would you classify Picasso? A genius or a charlatan? >There is no real way to evaluate t
2002-11-20 by its_peake
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > Mike Peake wrote: > > >Eliminating long patchcords and providing exceptional functional > density might be argued as being efficient. This is why Doug > was able to bring his Wiard to the Hayward gathering and you had to > leave The Beas
2002-11-20 by its_peake
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: snip > > >Up to the point where music became big business, it was not > treated as a craft where "results" are expected and predictable. It > did not use "tools' to produce these predictable results. (and > certainly not "weapons" for an "
2002-11-20 by Mike Fisher
Okay, > There is such a thing as overkill. When you think about it, every > knob and every switch on a synth could have an associated LED. But > how useful would that really be? (BTW, I'm not sure which comment > you were referring to. If you can point me to it, I will read it.)
2002-11-20 by ringmod45
--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" wrote: > RM: > > Can't say I agree with most of your post, but it sure was good > reading! Thanks. > > >You have to appreciate the costs > associated with producing face plates. By having the same face plate > throughout the system, he, thereby,