--- In wiardgroup@y..., "konkuro" <konkuro@a...> wrote: > RM: > > Can't say I agree with most of your post, but it sure was good > reading! Thanks. > > >You have to appreciate the costs > associated with producing face plates. By having the same face plate > throughout the system, he, thereby, eliminates the issue of having to > design faceplates for different modules. The bonus is that he only > has to carry one faceplate in his inventory.< > > But this is like the cart driving the horse. "Well, we have these > uniform panels with the same number of holes in them, so we had > better fill them with functions whether they are called for or not." > It's kind of like designing different cars, from Volkswagens to > Audis, and using the same body for all of them. Form should follow > function. A Wiard module has a core function to begin with, the other functions are there to complement the core. So, the complimentary functions are there to follow the form set by the core function. > > >Does this limit the look and functionality of the modules? Some > would > say, Yes. I believe, it actually helps the module. If you look at > Digest #618,< > > I shall have to read that. Thank you for the pointer. > > >Wiard has more functions on their modules, > thereby, eliminating the need for long patchcords to go across the > surface of the instrument.< > > But it also locks you into the "macro-module" concept a la Serge. > You may end up with functions you don't want or need. To me, this is > not the way to create an efficient system. You may not want or need them, but they are complimentary to the Core Function of the module and not whimsical. It always helps to have one or more Complimentary Functions on board. If you balance your Core Function modules in an array that pleases your patching needs, then the Complimentary Functions will help balance the rest of the system. If you feel the need to have a particular function which the Wiard does not have, you could always expand it with modules from other manufacturers. > > >About the issue of " (An aside: How come nobody with a Wiard does > classical?)" , Classical Music is not the barometer to define whether > or not an instrument is viable or valuable.< > > Ah, but it is! It is probably the best metric for evaluating a > modular synthesizer. I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but i come from a different school of thought on the subject. Not to go into philosophical semantics about Art, but from where i base my ideas on Art and Creativity, there are certain patterns that I tend to avoid. Art is the transformation of the unknown by way of process and spirit. Sometimes accidents produce some elegant and not so elegant results. It's like an analogy I recently used on TGS > about painting. Anybody--even a monkey--can create abstract art. > There is no skill involved in throwing caviar at a canvas and calling > it "art." It is quite another matter, however, to paint like Tissot > or Ingres. It takes a great deal of talent, skill and time to create > a painting of a person that looks like a person, and any defects in > such a painting will be immediately apparent to all eyes, trained or > untrained, because we all know what a person is supposed to look like. To keep it in the Arena of Painting, how would you classify Picasso? A genius or a charlatan? Having seen 3 of his exhibitons and seeing his early and later sketchbooks, most people think of Picasso as an Abstract artist. Classical Art aficionados tend to think less of his work. During his formative years, he had the ability to draw and paint like his Classical predecessors, his teachers saw his ability as well. The one comment he opined to a friend about that period of his life, was generally speaking along these lines, < They know, I can paint like them if I want to, but they will never be able to paint like me >. This where Art enters into the equation. He had the soul and prowess, to transform his ideas and surroundings to their most primal forms, into works of Art. If you have the chance to see the 1956 documentary THE MYSTERY OF PICASSO by Henri-Georges Clouzot, i highly recommend it. > > The same is true for sound. Any eight-year-old can get sound out of > a synthesizer. There is no real way to evaluate the sound of a > blarkus or a blork, but if you set out to create French horn and it > doesn't sound like it, then the faults will be immediately obvious. Yes, i agree with you here as well, but you are about talking imitating or modelling the sound of the French Horn. The French Horn existed before the Modular Synthesizer. How about creating new voices. A most difficult task indeed. > > Now, say you wanted to evaluate the sound of a new grand piano on the > market. From which could you discern more: sequences of random > banging, or a Chopin etude? The former has no frame of reference, > the latter does. Again, I agree, but how about a Cecil Taylor composition or a Rachmaninov concerto to put it through its paces. Atonal and Discordant music has its place on a piano as well. > > How well do Wiard oscillators track? How good are the filters for > creating formants? These kind of criteria cannot be ascertained from > random squawks and banal, numbingly repetitive sequencer riffs. The only experience I have had with the Wiard, was an original 6 module system from one of the first ones out of the gate. I tried it over at a friend's place first. My friend lent me the manuals so i could come to grips with it's format. Afterward, he brought it over to my place for a few days. I put it through its' paces and found it tracked very well. I didn't try to track the filter, but i did find the filter very responsive. The Omni Filter had a sound which was unique quite pleasing to my ears. It very hard to describe, i would say, lock yourself in a room with the system, experiment and listen. When the time is right, it will be one of the first instruments to make its way into the studio. > > >Grant has built an instrument that has its own > sound and playability. The Electronic Music Community is lucky to > have another Designer, in its fold, creating new ideas and designs.< > > True! > > >The Synthesizer and Classical music issue has been done and > exhausted.< > > Oh, not true! My lament is that the synthesizer barely got started > in the classical realm. Very true. You have to remember the Analogue Modular Synthesizer is probably the most powerful monophonic voice out there. It is a Made to Measure instrument with control elements above and beyond all of the musical instruments out there. I sometimes wonder, how these instruments would affected the likes of Mozart, Bach, Beethoven .etc with regards to compostion and intregation in an orchetral setting. Alas, we shall never know. It got sidetracked by pop and rock, as an > expedient novelty. Today, it is used as a "band in a box"--and not a > very good band at that. Switched on Bach was such a powerful performance, that the amount of copies sold at the time, dictated the commercial rush that ensued. Shameful for sure, although, there were some pleasnt surprises. This is true even for the music of Carlos. > Carlos' analog works were outstanding and brought something really > new to music. I agree 100%. Carlos' digital works tend toward sounding like cheesy > imitations that could be had on a K-mart Casio (I refer you to Peter > and the Wolf, S-0B 2000, and Tales of Heaven and Hell.) Heard most of those recordings and would rather listen to Talk Radio than endure a listening session with those discs. > > >Like you said, " It is the *music* that matters ", appreciate the > Wiard System for it's sonic character, control functions and it's > music making abilities. Later, its Design esthetics might grow on > you. :)< > > Highly unlikely. But who knows? :-) People change with the passage of time. ;-) RM > > > johnm
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Fwd: [AH] Re: Synth Graphics, speaking of which
2002-11-20 by ringmod45
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