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Re: [motm] Food for thought

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by Cary Roberts

>Just a sneak peek at PIC modules in development.
>
>Paul S.

Knobs are better than buttons.  Big momemtary toggle switches
are another thing.....

-Cary

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by alt-mode

Interesting stuff.  For the VC divider, I'm torn about wanting LEDs on the outputs. 
They are useful when running sync pulses but they get down right annoying when run
at audio levels.  This is based on my experience with the Doepfer clock divider and
sequencer.

For the trigger delay Paul, I think you can do much better, only 1 second?  The old
Moog dual trigger delay goes to 10 seconds.  Yes, it isn't accurate but I have used
it to bring in an evelope or trigger an event very late in a sustained sound.  I
would expect that a studly MOTM module would be able to go to 100 sec!  So, put a
range switch on that sucker and get some real trigger delays going.  Of course,
something lower than 1ms can also be used for audio range effects too!  I think my
LED comments also apply here.  Finally, if you must use buttons to set the values,
please make it so that if you are pressing the button for one direction, either it
accelerates the increment/decrement speed or you can accelerate the speed by push
the other button while holding the first.  (I hope that made sense).

Eric

--- Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
> Just a sneak peek at PIC modules in development.
> 
> Paul S.
> 
> 

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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by jwbarlow@aol.com

Thanks for this update Paul. I've been interested in what's ahead in R&D. The 
ratio divider looks quite unique! Any idea when these might be released? 
Early next year?

JB

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by The Old Crow

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, alt-mode wrote:

> Interesting stuff.  For the VC divider, I'm torn about wanting LEDs on
> the outputs.  They are useful when running sync pulses but they get
> down right annoying when run at audio levels.  This is based on my
> experience with the Doepfer clock divider and sequencer.

  My prototype had LEDs on the outputs.  Rather impractical on a 13-jack
2U panel, though.

> For the trigger delay Paul, I think you can do much better, only 1
> second?  The old Moog dual trigger delay goes to 10 seconds.  Yes, it
> isn't accurate but I have used it to bring in an evelope or trigger an
> event very late in a sustained sound.  I would expect that a studly
> MOTM module would be able to go to 100 sec!  So, put a range switch on
> that sucker and get some real trigger delays going.  Of course,
> something lower than 1ms can also be used for audio range effects too!  
> I think my LED comments also apply here.  Finally, if you must use
> buttons to set the values, please make it so that if you are pressing
> the button for one direction, either it accelerates the
> increment/decrement speed or you can accelerate the speed by push the
> other button while holding the first.  (I hope that made sense).

  1) It is a 0 to 9.999s dual delay.  the '1000ms' in the name at the
bottom is missing a zero.

  2) The buttons use a set of routines I wrote to control various process
controllers.  There are a number of increment/decrement rates based on how
long the button is depressed.

  3) That "<FREQ>" on the delay panel is a typo.

  And lastly, these panel images were my initial ideas.  End results may
be a bit different.

Crow

/**/

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by bigw@onbuffalo.com

I tend to agree, ill really need a big mult and a mixer very soon after my new
system arrives
Jim

Tentochi wrote:
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> Bring it on!!!  ETA???  Estimated price?  MOTM #s?
>
> Try and get a few of the IMPORTANT things out first though.  Mixer.  Mult.
> Dual/Triple/Quad VCA.  Covers for rack rails.  And probably one or two
> others I forgot.
>
> I would like to see the delay before the other two.
>
> What is the current schedule for everything?
>
> Cheers!
> Shemp
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 2:12 AM
> > To: MOTM listserv
> > Subject: [motm] Food for thought
> >
> >
> > Just a sneak peek at PIC modules in development.
> >
> > Paul S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by Microtonal

I've gotten mults from Synthesizers.com and will be ordering mixers and
signal processsors (CV attenuator/DC mixer) soon.  They fit in a 5U rack
frame and have 1/4" jacks, so they interface pretty well with MOTM
equipment.  The Synthesizers.com rack frame is pretty flimsy though, so plan
on filling it with modules or blanks to stiffen it up.

If that doesn't get Paul going then nothing will! :-)  My own preference is
for MOTM to concentrate of the more exotic modules.  Anybody can make a mult
or mixer.

John Loffink
microtonal@...

> I tend to agree, ill really need a big mult and a mixer very soon after my
new
> system arrives
> Jim
>
> Tentochi wrote:
>
> > Bring it on!!!  ETA???  Estimated price?  MOTM #s?
> >
> > Try and get a few of the IMPORTANT things out first though.  Mixer.
Mult.
> > Dual/Triple/Quad VCA.  Covers for rack rails.  And probably one or two
> > others I forgot.

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by Microtonal

Does the VC Rate Divider do a divide by 1 from the /N output?  This is very
useful if you're feeding it a pulse rate that's sixteenth notes.  Then you
just divide by 1 to get a sixteenth note, by 2 to get an eighth, etc.  It's
possible to set the input rate to twice your needed note rate, but it's just
not quite as intuitive.

John Loffink
microtonal@...

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-19 by davevosh@aol.com

In a message dated 00-08-19 16:39:46 EDT, you write:

<<  Anybody can make a mult
 or mixer. >>


john,
while the mult is pretty obvious, mixers can be a more subtle thing. 
optimised for cv or audio ? one unit to do both or separate modules? each 
type (vc / audio ) to be super spec`s or just adequate for both ?  i think i 
recall paul speaking on the problems here related to op amp selection and 
related things - ?  not as hard a proposition as a vco maybe but one that has 
its own pitfalls!
best,
dave v.

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by Paul Schreiber

Divide by 1 = Y-cord or multiple :)

It does divide by 2 to 9, then a seperate /16. All simultameously available.
It can also
"half divide" by 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc.

Paul S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Microtonal" <microtonal@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought


> Does the VC Rate Divider do a divide by 1 from the /N output?  This is
very
> useful if you're feeding it a pulse rate that's sixteenth notes.  Then you
> just divide by 1 to get a sixteenth note, by 2 to get an eighth, etc.
It's
> possible to set the input rate to twice your needed note rate, but it's
just
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> not quite as intuitive.
>
> John Loffink
> microtonal@...
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by The Old Crow

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Paul Schreiber wrote:

> Divide by 1 = Y-cord or multiple :)
> 
> It does divide by 2 to 9, then a seperate /16. All simultameously available.
> It can also
> "half divide" by 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc.
> 

  Half-cycle mode starts at 1.0, so, yes, you can have the 1/N = 1/1.
(1.0 to 16.5 in 0.5 steps)

Crow

/**/

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by Microtonal

I was thinking of the application where a VC Divider has it's VC input come
from the row of a sequencer and the /N output goes to the clock input of the
sequencer.  The row sets the duration of each step in the sequence.  Using a
Y-cord or multiple won't help in this instance as the rate is constantly
changing.  The benefits of clocking a sequencer this way as opposed to using
a VC clock or LFO are:

1.  Sequencers can be synced to each other using multiple VC dividers and a
common clock, and note durations for each can be varied.
2.  Sequencers can be synced to MIDI.
3.  Sequencers can by synced to tape.

If /1 is not available from the /N output then this can still be
accomplished assuming the /N output has a suitable range, say from /2 to
/32.  That would give a range from 16th notes to whole notes with clocks at
32nd note rates going to the clock input of the VC divider.

John Loffink
microtonal@...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought


> Divide by 1 = Y-cord or multiple :)
>
> It does divide by 2 to 9, then a seperate /16. All simultameously
available.
> It can also
> "half divide" by 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc.
>
> Paul S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Microtonal" <microtonal@...>
> To: <motm@egroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought
>
>
> > Does the VC Rate Divider do a divide by 1 from the /N output?  This is
> very
> > useful if you're feeding it a pulse rate that's sixteenth notes.  Then
you
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> > just divide by 1 to get a sixteenth note, by 2 to get an eighth, etc.
> It's
> > possible to set the input rate to twice your needed note rate, but it's
> just
> > not quite as intuitive.
> >
> > John Loffink
> > microtonal@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by Microtonal

Great!  That's just what I was looking for in a VC Divider.

John Loffink
microtonal@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Old Crow" <oldcrow@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought


>
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Paul Schreiber wrote:
>
> > Divide by 1 = Y-cord or multiple :)
> >
> > It does divide by 2 to 9, then a seperate /16. All simultameously
available.
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> > It can also
> > "half divide" by 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc.
> >
>
>   Half-cycle mode starts at 1.0, so, yes, you can have the 1/N = 1/1.
> (1.0 to 16.5 in 0.5 steps)
>
> Crow
>
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by alt-mode

--- The Old Crow <oldcrow@...> wrote:
>   My prototype had LEDs on the outputs.  Rather impractical on a 13-jack
> 2U panel, though.
>
Yes, that seems to be a perpetual problem.  I think I'm comfortable with no LEDs but
I'm not sure if others on the list are ;)
 
>   1) It is a 0 to 9.999s dual delay.  the '1000ms' in the name at the
> bottom is missing a zero.
>
Ah, that's much better!   What about something more than 10sec?  I admit that's
pushing it but we have a VCLFO that cycles in minutes, why not a pulse delay?

>   2) The buttons use a set of routines I wrote to control various process
> controllers.  There are a number of increment/decrement rates based on how
> long the button is depressed.
>
Cool!

Eric

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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by Microtonal

In most cases I don't need a high amount of DC accuracy from a CV mixer.
The exception would be where I want to mix several voltages together and
feed them to the 1V/oct inputs of my VCOs.  In that case I prefer those
inputs to be straight mixer inputs without attenuation for highest accuracy,
and to use the highly specified, low offset voltage op amp that Paul  was
talking about.

John Loffink
microtonal@...

----- Original Message -----
From: <davevosh@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought


> In a message dated 00-08-19 16:39:46 EDT, you write:
>
> <<  Anybody can make a mult
>  or mixer. >>
>
>
> john,
> while the mult is pretty obvious, mixers can be a more subtle thing.
> optimised for cv or audio ? one unit to do both or separate modules? each
> type (vc / audio ) to be super spec`s or just adequate for both ?  i think
i
> recall paul speaking on the problems here related to op amp selection and
> related things - ?  not as hard a proposition as a vco maybe but one that
has
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> its own pitfalls!
> best,
> dave v.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by Paul Schreiber

Longer delays are difficult because we are all digial. The cap-based stuff
is easier but not
as accurate or repeatable. Guess you'll need 5 or 6 and daisy-chain :)

We are using small RAM PIC processors and the code is all working.

Paul S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "alt-mode" <alt_mode@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought


> --- The Old Crow <oldcrow@...> wrote:
> >   My prototype had LEDs on the outputs.  Rather impractical on a 13-jack
> > 2U panel, though.
> >
> Yes, that seems to be a perpetual problem.  I think I'm comfortable with
no LEDs but
> I'm not sure if others on the list are ;)
>
> >   1) It is a 0 to 9.999s dual delay.  the '1000ms' in the name at the
> > bottom is missing a zero.
> >
> Ah, that's much better!   What about something more than 10sec?  I admit
that's
> pushing it but we have a VCLFO that cycles in minutes, why not a pulse
delay?
>
> >   2) The buttons use a set of routines I wrote to control various
process
> > controllers.  There are a number of increment/decrement rates based on
how
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> > long the button is depressed.
> >
> Cool!
>
> Eric
>
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by The Old Crow

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Microtonal wrote:

> If /1 is not available from the /N output then this can still be
> accomplished assuming the /N output has a suitable range, say from /2
> to /32.  That would give a range from 16th notes to whole notes with
> clocks at 32nd note rates going to the clock input of the VC divider.

  That switch that says full cycle/half cycle; it selects whether to
advance the internal counter on the rising edge or both edges of the input
clock.  This being the case (and tested to Pluto and back), you get two
mode of operation:

  Full-cycle: N can be any integer from 2 to 33

  Half-cycle: N can be from 1.0 to16.5 in 0.5 steps

Crow

/**/

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by sikorsky

From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
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> Just a sneak peek at PIC modules in development.


hello all,
love the new modules,

the clock divider - maybe that could stretch to a 3u panel..? that way there
could also be room for that bank of LEDs that everyone wants ;-). what does
"ramp ampl." do, something to do with trigger threshold on /N..? or am i
wildly off the mark here -

ratio divider - i'm assuming this is more VCO based, so if i set it to 2:1
and chucked 440Hz into it, i'd get 220Hz out of it, what's available ratio
wise - integers between 1-32 again..?

dual delay - could the buttons be replaced by some kind of rotary
encoders..?

size, permitting, maybe the display could be put in the top left hand pot
position, allowing the pots & jacks (especially on the ratio divider) to
take up a more natural MOTM layout. also if you only need to cycle from 1-32
on the dividers, is there a need to include a fine / course control - or was
this added as a performance control..?

anyway, as always, i can't wait for these new modules and look forward to
spending those dark winter evenings happily dividing by N
oh yes - i've one more thing to add to the debate - NIXIE TUBES !!!

cheers paul b (ducking)

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by bigw@onbuffalo.com

What are some of the patching examples you would use this module on???
Thanks
Jim

sikorsky wrote:
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> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> Subject: [motm] Food for thought
>
> > Just a sneak peek at PIC modules in development.
>
> hello all,
> love the new modules,
>
> the clock divider - maybe that could stretch to a 3u panel..? that way there
> could also be room for that bank of LEDs that everyone wants ;-). what does
> "ramp ampl." do, something to do with trigger threshold on /N..? or am i
> wildly off the mark here -
>
> ratio divider - i'm assuming this is more VCO based, so if i set it to 2:1
> and chucked 440Hz into it, i'd get 220Hz out of it, what's available ratio
> wise - integers between 1-32 again..?
>
> dual delay - could the buttons be replaced by some kind of rotary
> encoders..?
>
> size, permitting, maybe the display could be put in the top left hand pot
> position, allowing the pots & jacks (especially on the ratio divider) to
> take up a more natural MOTM layout. also if you only need to cycle from 1-32
> on the dividers, is there a need to include a fine / course control - or was
> this added as a performance control..?
>
> anyway, as always, i can't wait for these new modules and look forward to
> spending those dark winter evenings happily dividing by N
> oh yes - i've one more thing to add to the debate - NIXIE TUBES !!!
>
> cheers paul b (ducking)
>
>

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-20 by alt-mode

Boy Paul, the comment below could really get you in trouble on AH <snicker>!  I was
thinking of asking you to change the synthtech website to say "analog and digital
modular synthesizers" but digital in the control path is an OK thing.  I can
certainly live with 10sec of trigger delay.  I don't think I'll be getting multiple
trigger delay modules, I'd resort to other means for super long delays, like using
the trigger outputs of a sequencer running on a slower clock.

Given the tease on these modules, perhaps you can give us a general update on the
new module queue and anticipated schedule?

Eric


--- Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
> Longer delays are difficult because we are all digial. The cap-based stuff
> is easier but not
> as accurate or repeatable. Guess you'll need 5 or 6 and daisy-chain :)
> 
> We are using small RAM PIC processors and the code is all working.
> 



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RE: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-22 by David Bivins

Being a bit vain and snobbish, I *would* like an "offical" MOTM mult
regardless of how simple they are. Even if Paul were to only supply
faceplates with MOTM-consistent graphics, that would be great. I'm using a
patchbay as a mult now, and though it works fine, I'd love to litter my
system with several 1U mult panels...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: davevosh@... [mailto:davevosh@...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:42 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought
> 
> 
> In a message dated 00-08-19 16:39:46 EDT, you write:
> 
> <<  Anybody can make a mult
>  or mixer. >>
> 
> 
> john,
> while the mult is pretty obvious, mixers can be a more subtle thing. 
> optimised for cv or audio ? one unit to do both or separate 
> modules? each 
> type (vc / audio ) to be super spec`s or just adequate for 
> both ?  i think i 
> recall paul speaking on the problems here related to op amp 
> selection and 
> related things - ?  not as hard a proposition as a vco maybe 
> but one that has 
> its own pitfalls!
> best,
> dave v.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-22 by Thomas Hudson

Actually, I would like to see a 1U panel, no screen-printing,
with eight holes for 1/4 jacks. This would give us flexibility
in how we wire the mults, AND I could use one as a breakout
for my expressionist.

Tomy



David Bivins wrote:
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> 
> Being a bit vain and snobbish, I *would* like an "offical" MOTM mult
> regardless of how simple they are. Even if Paul were to only supply
> faceplates with MOTM-consistent graphics, that would be great. I'm using a
> patchbay as a mult now, and though it works fine, I'd love to litter my
> system with several 1U mult panels...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: davevosh@... [mailto:davevosh@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:42 PM
> > To: motm@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 00-08-19 16:39:46 EDT, you write:
> >
> > <<  Anybody can make a mult
> >  or mixer. >>
> >
> >
> > john,
> > while the mult is pretty obvious, mixers can be a more subtle thing.
> > optimised for cv or audio ? one unit to do both or separate
> > modules? each
> > type (vc / audio ) to be super spec`s or just adequate for
> > both ?  i think i
> > recall paul speaking on the problems here related to op amp
> > selection and
> > related things - ?  not as hard a proposition as a vco maybe
> > but one that has
> > its own pitfalls!
> > best,
> > dave v.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-22 by David Bivins

Which is probably easier to just do on our own, right? Buy a 1U blank from
Paul, get the drill press going or have someone on the list do it for you if
possible (the drilling that is), order jacks from Mouser or whomever...

You're right. Why do I need "MOTM-9X0 Multiple" screen-printed on a panel?

Hmmm.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Hudson [mailto:thudson@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:45 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought
> 
> 
> 
> Actually, I would like to see a 1U panel, no screen-printing,
> with eight holes for 1/4 jacks. This would give us flexibility
> in how we wire the mults, AND I could use one as a breakout
> for my expressionist.
> 
> Tomy
> 
> 
> 
> David Bivins wrote:
> > 
> > Being a bit vain and snobbish, I *would* like an "offical" MOTM mult
> > regardless of how simple they are. Even if Paul were to only supply
> > faceplates with MOTM-consistent graphics, that would be 
> great. I'm using a
> > patchbay as a mult now, and though it works fine, I'd love 
> to litter my
> > system with several 1U mult panels...
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: davevosh@... [mailto:davevosh@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:42 PM
> > > To: motm@egroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 00-08-19 16:39:46 EDT, you write:
> > >
> > > <<  Anybody can make a mult
> > >  or mixer. >>
> > >
> > >
> > > john,
> > > while the mult is pretty obvious, mixers can be a more 
> subtle thing.
> > > optimised for cv or audio ? one unit to do both or separate
> > > modules? each
> > > type (vc / audio ) to be super spec`s or just adequate for
> > > both ?  i think i
> > > recall paul speaking on the problems here related to op amp
> > > selection and
> > > related things - ?  not as hard a proposition as a vco maybe
> > > but one that has
> > > its own pitfalls!
> > > best,
> > > dave v.
> > >
> > >
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RE: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-22 by Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)

'cause it looks damned spiffy.  ;)

--PBr
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David Bivins [SMTP:dbivins@...]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:46 PM
> To:	'motm@egroups.com'
> Subject:	RE: [motm] Food for thought
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> You're right. Why do I need "MOTM-9X0 Multiple" screen-printed on a panel?
>

RE: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-23 by alt-mode

I'll also chime in on this vain and snobbish front and say that I'd like a MOTM mult
on a 1U panel with 4 sets of 4 input mults.  The synthesizers.com panels are a
different width and won't fit right with MOTM and I like the graphics like those on
the 940 to show the mults.  Yes, it will cost a bit more but the should be dead
simple for Paul to sell and they might exceed 800 EGs in sales eventually...
If ebay is any example, there is a Moog mult that is up to $77 now!!  I think Paul
could sell them for less, or at least I hope so!

Eric
--- David Bivins <dbivins@...> wrote:
> Being a bit vain and snobbish, I *would* like an "offical" MOTM mult
> regardless of how simple they are. Even if Paul were to only supply
> faceplates with MOTM-consistent graphics, that would be great. I'm using a
> patchbay as a mult now, and though it works fine, I'd love to litter my
> system with several 1U mult panels...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: davevosh@... [mailto:davevosh@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:42 PM
> > To: motm@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [motm] Food for thought
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 00-08-19 16:39:46 EDT, you write:
> > 
> > <<  Anybody can make a mult
> >  or mixer. >>
> > 
> > 
> > john,
> > while the mult is pretty obvious, mixers can be a more subtle thing. 
> > optimised for cv or audio ? one unit to do both or separate 
> > modules? each 
> > type (vc / audio ) to be super spec`s or just adequate for 
> > both ?  i think i 
> > recall paul speaking on the problems here related to op amp 
> > selection and 
> > related things - ?  not as hard a proposition as a vco maybe 
> > but one that has 
> > its own pitfalls!
> > best,
> > dave v.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-23 by J. Larry Hendry

Oh, just something like this?
Larry H



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From: alt-mode <alt_mode@...>

I'll also chime in on this vain and snobbish front and say that I'd
like a MOTM mult on a 1U panel with 4 sets of 4 input mults.

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-23 by elhardt@aol.com

jlarryh@... writes:

>> Oh, just something like this?
 Larry H<<

Almost perfect.  That's what I think the MOTM mult should look like but maybe 
with switches inbetween each group of connectors so that those groups can be 
connected together.

-Elhardt

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-23 by J. Larry Hendry

Almost perfect.  That's what I think the MOTM mult should 
look like but maybe with switches in between each group of
connectors so that those groups can be connected together.
Elhardt
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Let's not start THAT thread again.
Larry H

Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-23 by alt-mode

I'll take it with or without the switches!

--- elhardt@... wrote:
> jlarryh@... writes:
> 
> >> Oh, just something like this?
>  Larry H<<
> 
> Almost perfect.  That's what I think the MOTM mult should look like but maybe 
> with switches inbetween each group of connectors so that those groups can be 
> connected together.
> 
> -Elhardt
> 
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Re: [motm] Food for thought

2000-08-23 by Thomas Hudson

I want this! Another idea would be for Paul to screen print
both sides of a panel. One side would be as a mult and the
other side would be labeled as CV/Gate 1-8 as a breakout
for the Expressionist.

Tomy


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> Oh, just something like this?
> Larry H
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> I'll also chime in on this vain and snobbish front and say that I'd
> like a MOTM mult on a 1U panel with 4 sets of 4 input mults.
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