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Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

Re: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-26 by Mark Savoia

Depends on how much scanning you are doing, you could always have a service scan for you.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Lew wrote:

> What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are we making?

Re: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-26 by Tina Manley

If you want to scan them yourself, you have two choices.  Buy a used LS-5000
on EBay or camera scan them with a slide duplicator.  I do both.  The
LS-5000 gives best results.  Camera scanning is quick and easy.

Tina

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Lew <lew1716@...> wrote:

>
>
> What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their
> product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are
> we making?
>  
>
>
-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


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Re: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-26 by mrjimbo

Lew ,
It's more about what plans are you making, right?.. The 5000 has been a discontinued item for a while. I understand the 9000 will be discontinued also. While I'm not a fan of them many are.. So if you have a need you may want to deal with it. Either purchase a scanner or figure on using a service company to do your scans.

jimbo
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  Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:11 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.


    
  What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are we making?


  

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Re: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-26 by Richard Sintchak

Buy one now?

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Lew <lew1716@...> wrote:

>
>
> What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their
> product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are
> we making?
> 
>



-- 
Richard S.
Albany, CA (San Francisco bay area)

My Photography Website
http://www.lightshadowandtone.com

My Flickr River
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RE: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-26 by Tom Maugham

Although I have scanned most of my 35mm slides I have two Polaroid CS4000
film scanners carefully packed away.  Just in case...
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Sintchak
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:59 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

Buy one now?

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Lew <lew1716@...> wrote:

>
>
> What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their
> product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are
> we making?
> 
>



-- 
Richard S.
Albany, CA (San Francisco bay area)

My Photography Website
http://www.lightshadowandtone.com

My Flickr River
http://flickriver.com/photos/rich8155/popular-interesting/


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Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by Barrett Benton

I bought a new Minolta Dimage Scan 5400 (first version) back in 2004,  
because (1) I was convinced I wouldn't find anything that good in  
terms or price-performance again, and (2) that the market for these  
things was either at or approaching its zenith; digital photography  
was getting too much traction for things not to change. (For the  
record, I still shoot film for about 75-80% of my work, so a solid  
film scanner was and still is necessary.)

I believe new Nikon 5000s are still available in some places. If you  
want a new one, the time to buy is NOW. If you don't need a brand- 
spanking-new version, go for a used one, but you might want to do it  
soon: I'm rather amazed at the prices people are getting for used  
examples of my Minolta scanner on a certain auction site, though I  
suppose I shouldn't be...


- Barrett

Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by Eric Luden

If you are considering a Nikon, we will be selling a Nikon 9000 with glass carrier, multiple holders, and the Aztek wet carrier with fluid. We have the original packaging, manuals, etc 

Regards,

Eric Luden
Digital Silver Imaging

Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by Lew Schwartz

Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or Adorama.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Barrett Benton
<bwbenton@...>wrote:

>
>
> I bought a new Minolta Dimage Scan 5400 (first version) back in 2004,
> because (1) I was convinced I wouldn't find anything that good in
> terms or price-performance again, and (2) that the market for these
> things was either at or approaching its zenith; digital photography
> was getting too much traction for things not to change. (For the
> record, I still shoot film for about 75-80% of my work, so a solid
> film scanner was and still is necessary.)
>
> I believe new Nikon 5000s are still available in some places. If you
> want a new one, the time to buy is NOW. If you don't need a brand-
> spanking-new version, go for a used one, but you might want to do it
> soon: I'm rather amazed at the prices people are getting for used
> examples of my Minolta scanner on a certain auction site, though I
> suppose I shouldn't be...
>
> - Barrett
>  
>


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Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by ben

I have a Minolta Dimage film scanner I will sell.  It will scan film from 8mm through 6x9.  I used it lightly for two years, before I got my Polaroid 4x5.

Contact me off list.

Ben

benjschneider2@...

Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by Ernst Dinkla

Lew Schwartz schreef:
> Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or Adorama.

No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range. Optional Scanhancer 
added to reduce grain aliasing.
The Nikon 35mm models came second.
The Canon 35mm models had a lower resolution  and so did the Polaroid ones.

In MF sizes the Nikon 9000 is still made but depending on market demand 
so availability varies.

The Hasselblad/Imacon models are still available but for that price you 
can do better qualitywise with a secondhand drum scanner that has been 
overhauled.


I'm using a Nikon 8000, Epson V700, Umax Mirage II. All with fluid 
mounting if required.


-- 
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Try: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/

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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by andy bessette

Sorry,
 
but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
 
Andy







Lew Schwartz schreef:
> Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or Adorama.

No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...



      

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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mrjimbo

The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's scanners at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's scanners and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one chooses to go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better of the two choices. 

jimbo
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: andy bessette 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.


    
  Sorry,
   
  but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
   
  Andy

  Lew Schwartz schreef:
  > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or Adorama.

  No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
  The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...

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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mhaffey@crocker.com

Jimbo,

What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly available
5000 ED scanner.

Mark
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> The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's scanners
> at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's scanners
> and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one chooses to
> go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better of the
> two choices.
>
> jimbo
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: andy bessette
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
> scanners.
>
>
>
>   Sorry,
>
>   but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
>
>   Andy
>
>   Lew Schwartz schreef:
>   > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
> Adorama.
>
>   No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
>   The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mrjimbo

Hopefully I do this right.. Ok the LS 5000 is the latest version of the scanner ..the previous version which looked pretty much the same was called the LS-50 ED.. It was a 14 bit scanner not 16 bit like the LS version.. I actually had the previous version long ago but can't remember that much about it.. it's been too long.. It was notably slower I remember that.. Oh with the LS using supplied software you can scan to raw which you can't do as I recall with the previous version. I will say that while I'm not a fan of either for serious scanning the LS version is probably the best of that type technology going. 

jimbo
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mhaffey@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.


    
  Jimbo,

  What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly available
  5000 ED scanner.

  Mark

  > The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's scanners
  > at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's scanners
  > and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one chooses to
  > go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better of the
  > two choices.
  >
  > jimbo
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: andy bessette
  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > scanners.
  >
  >
  >
  > Sorry,
  >
  > but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
  >
  > Andy
  >
  > Lew Schwartz schreef:
  > > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
  > Adorama.
  >
  > No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
  > The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  >
  >



  

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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mhaffey@crocker.com

Thanks.  Very helpful.

Mark
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> Hopefully I do this right.. Ok the LS 5000 is the latest version of the
> scanner ..the previous version which looked pretty much the same was
> called the LS-50 ED.. It was a 14 bit scanner not 16 bit like the LS
> version.. I actually had the previous version long ago but can't remember
> that much about it.. it's been too long.. It was notably slower I remember
> that.. Oh with the LS using supplied software you can scan to raw which
> you can't do as I recall with the previous version. I will say that while
> I'm not a fan of either for serious scanning the LS version is probably
> the best of that type technology going.
>
> jimbo
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: mhaffey@...
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:03 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
> scanners.
>
>
>
>   Jimbo,
>
>   What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly
> available
>   5000 ED scanner.
>
>   Mark
>
>   > The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's
> scanners
>   > at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's
> scanners
>   > and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one
> chooses to
>   > go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better of
> the
>   > two choices.
>   >
>   > jimbo
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: andy bessette
>   > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
>   > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
>   > scanners.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Sorry,
>   >
>   > but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
>   >
>   > Andy
>   >
>   > Lew Schwartz schreef:
>   > > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
>   > Adorama.
>   >
>   > No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
>   > The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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RE: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by David Whistance

I don't think Jimbo is quite right, although I'm by no means an expert.  I
believe that the LS-50 was a cut down version (as in it wouldn't work with
some of the accessories) of the LS-5000.  The predecessor to the LS-5000 was
the LS-4000.  One of the main accessories that won't work with the LS-50 is
the bulk slide feeder, otherwise I think they are pretty much the same.  I
have an LS-5000 which I use for bulk slide scanning - the feeder takes 50
mounted slides at a time and just gets on with scanning them.  Its quick and
dirty but clearly doesn't compare with a drum.

David Whistance
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  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
mhaffey@crocker.com
  Sent: 27 August 2010 19:47
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.



  Thanks. Very helpful.

  Mark

  > Hopefully I do this right.. Ok the LS 5000 is the latest version of the
  > scanner ..the previous version which looked pretty much the same was
  > called the LS-50 ED.. It was a 14 bit scanner not 16 bit like the LS
  > version.. I actually had the previous version long ago but can't
remember
  > that much about it.. it's been too long.. It was notably slower I
remember
  > that.. Oh with the LS using supplied software you can scan to raw which
  > you can't do as I recall with the previous version. I will say that
while
  > I'm not a fan of either for serious scanning the LS version is probably
  > the best of that type technology going.
  >
  > jimbo
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: mhaffey@...
  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:03 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > scanners.
  >
  >
  >
  > Jimbo,
  >
  > What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly
  > available
  > 5000 ED scanner.
  >
  > Mark
  >
  > > The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's
  > scanners
  > > at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's
  > scanners
  > > and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one
  > chooses to
  > > go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better of
  > the
  > > two choices.
  > >
  > > jimbo
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: andy bessette
  > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
  > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > > scanners.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Sorry,
  > >
  > > but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
  > >
  > > Andy
  > >
  > > Lew Schwartz schreef:
  > > > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
  > > Adorama.
  > >
  > > No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
  > > The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
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RE: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mhaffey@crocker.com

Now I am getting confused.  The scanner I have is the Nikon Super Coolscan
5000 ED.  It is a 16 bit scanner.  What I was wondering is how the 5000 ED
compares with the LS-5000.  I'm not sure which scanner is the latest or
what the differences are.  Nikon gives the specs for the 5000 ED on their
web site but I am unable to find out anything about the LS-5000, which is
why I was asking here.  The LS-5000 seems to garner higher prices on ebay,
but I'm not sure that that is a consistent pattern.  Anyway, the
discussion led me to question whether there was room to improve on the
scanner I currently have.

Thanks for any information anyone has on this question.

Mark
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> I don't think Jimbo is quite right, although I'm by no means an expert.  I
> believe that the LS-50 was a cut down version (as in it wouldn't work with
> some of the accessories) of the LS-5000.  The predecessor to the LS-5000
> was
> the LS-4000.  One of the main accessories that won't work with the LS-50
> is
> the bulk slide feeder, otherwise I think they are pretty much the same.  I
> have an LS-5000 which I use for bulk slide scanning - the feeder takes 50
> mounted slides at a time and just gets on with scanning them.  Its quick
> and
> dirty but clearly doesn't compare with a drum.
>
> David Whistance
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> mhaffey@...
>   Sent: 27 August 2010 19:47
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
> scanners.
>
>
>
>   Thanks. Very helpful.
>
>   Mark
>
>   > Hopefully I do this right.. Ok the LS 5000 is the latest version of
> the
>   > scanner ..the previous version which looked pretty much the same was
>   > called the LS-50 ED.. It was a 14 bit scanner not 16 bit like the LS
>   > version.. I actually had the previous version long ago but can't
> remember
>   > that much about it.. it's been too long.. It was notably slower I
> remember
>   > that.. Oh with the LS using supplied software you can scan to raw
> which
>   > you can't do as I recall with the previous version. I will say that
> while
>   > I'm not a fan of either for serious scanning the LS version is
> probably
>   > the best of that type technology going.
>   >
>   > jimbo
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: mhaffey@...
>   > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:03 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
>   > scanners.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Jimbo,
>   >
>   > What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly
>   > available
>   > 5000 ED scanner.
>   >
>   > Mark
>   >
>   > > The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's
>   > scanners
>   > > at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's
>   > scanners
>   > > and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one
>   > chooses to
>   > > go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better
> of
>   > the
>   > > two choices.
>   > >
>   > > jimbo
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: andy bessette
>   > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
>   > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
>   > > scanners.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Sorry,
>   > >
>   > > but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
>   > >
>   > > Andy
>   > >
>   > > Lew Schwartz schreef:
>   > > > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
>   > > Adorama.
>   > >
>   > > No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
>   > > The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
>   > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mrjimbo

Hi David,
Well your right that the LS-50 is a toned down version of the LS 5000  ..I had the LS 4000 ..that's where I jumped in.. It was referred to as coolscan 4.. When the LS-50  came out it was referred to as the  Coolscan V ..it had it's own bulk film system.. the IA-20 adapter ..It used cartridges .. worked with both the LS-50 and the LS-5000 and you could do up to 40 slides with it.. But yup,  the SF-210 which is the big bucks unit only works with the LS-5000. The actual scanners are not the same inside.. The LS-5000 is a good 50% gain faster then the LS-50 and the LS5000 is 16 bit where the LS-50 is 14 bit..  I got my LS-50 before I got the LS-5000.. as you couldn't get the 5000 anywhere in a USA model..  Oh and the name Coolscan seemed to go away with the LS-5000..

jimbo
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  From: David Whistance 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.


    
  I don't think Jimbo is quite right, although I'm by no means an expert. I
  believe that the LS-50 was a cut down version (as in it wouldn't work with
  some of the accessories) of the LS-5000. The predecessor to the LS-5000 was
  the LS-4000. One of the main accessories that won't work with the LS-50 is
  the bulk slide feeder, otherwise I think they are pretty much the same. I
  have an LS-5000 which I use for bulk slide scanning - the feeder takes 50
  mounted slides at a time and just gets on with scanning them. Its quick and
  dirty but clearly doesn't compare with a drum.

  David Whistance
  -----Original Message-----
  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
  mhaffey@...
  Sent: 27 August 2010 19:47
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

  Thanks. Very helpful.

  Mark

  > Hopefully I do this right.. Ok the LS 5000 is the latest version of the
  > scanner ..the previous version which looked pretty much the same was
  > called the LS-50 ED.. It was a 14 bit scanner not 16 bit like the LS
  > version.. I actually had the previous version long ago but can't
  remember
  > that much about it.. it's been too long.. It was notably slower I
  remember
  > that.. Oh with the LS using supplied software you can scan to raw which
  > you can't do as I recall with the previous version. I will say that
  while
  > I'm not a fan of either for serious scanning the LS version is probably
  > the best of that type technology going.
  >
  > jimbo
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: mhaffey@...
  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:03 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > scanners.
  >
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  >
  > Jimbo,
  >
  > What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly
  > available
  > 5000 ED scanner.
  >
  > Mark
  >
  > > The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's
  > scanners
  > > at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's
  > scanners
  > > and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one
  > chooses to
  > > go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better of
  > the
  > > two choices.
  > >
  > > jimbo
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: andy bessette
  > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
  > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > > scanners.
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  > > Sorry,
  > >
  > > but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
  > >
  > > Andy
  > >
  > > Lew Schwartz schreef:
  > > > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
  > > Adorama.
  > >
  > > No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
  > > The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-27 by mrjimbo

Look at the back of your scanner.. Sounds like you have the LS version These do say supercoolscan on the front of them.. Folks including Nikon stopped referrring to them as "Coolscans" with this model.. and started calling them LS5000 or LS9000..
The actual model will be written on the back..If it says LS-50 then it's a 14 bit scanner.
Visually the two scanners look alike as I recall.

jimbo
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  Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:01 PM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.


    
  Now I am getting confused. The scanner I have is the Nikon Super Coolscan
  5000 ED. It is a 16 bit scanner. What I was wondering is how the 5000 ED
  compares with the LS-5000. I'm not sure which scanner is the latest or
  what the differences are. Nikon gives the specs for the 5000 ED on their
  web site but I am unable to find out anything about the LS-5000, which is
  why I was asking here. The LS-5000 seems to garner higher prices on ebay,
  but I'm not sure that that is a consistent pattern. Anyway, the
  discussion led me to question whether there was room to improve on the
  scanner I currently have.

  Thanks for any information anyone has on this question.

  Mark

  > I don't think Jimbo is quite right, although I'm by no means an expert. I
  > believe that the LS-50 was a cut down version (as in it wouldn't work with
  > some of the accessories) of the LS-5000. The predecessor to the LS-5000
  > was
  > the LS-4000. One of the main accessories that won't work with the LS-50
  > is
  > the bulk slide feeder, otherwise I think they are pretty much the same. I
  > have an LS-5000 which I use for bulk slide scanning - the feeder takes 50
  > mounted slides at a time and just gets on with scanning them. Its quick
  > and
  > dirty but clearly doesn't compare with a drum.
  >
  > David Whistance
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
  > mhaffey@...
  > Sent: 27 August 2010 19:47
  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > scanners.
  >
  >
  >
  > Thanks. Very helpful.
  >
  > Mark
  >
  > > Hopefully I do this right.. Ok the LS 5000 is the latest version of
  > the
  > > scanner ..the previous version which looked pretty much the same was
  > > called the LS-50 ED.. It was a 14 bit scanner not 16 bit like the LS
  > > version.. I actually had the previous version long ago but can't
  > remember
  > > that much about it.. it's been too long.. It was notably slower I
  > remember
  > > that.. Oh with the LS using supplied software you can scan to raw
  > which
  > > you can't do as I recall with the previous version. I will say that
  > while
  > > I'm not a fan of either for serious scanning the LS version is
  > probably
  > > the best of that type technology going.
  > >
  > > jimbo
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: mhaffey@...
  > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:03 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > > scanners.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Jimbo,
  > >
  > > What is the difference between the LS-5000 and the more commonly
  > > available
  > > 5000 ED scanner.
  > >
  > > Mark
  > >
  > > > The 5400 at the time it was introduced was a good move... Nikon's
  > > scanners
  > > > at that time fell a bit short.. This prompted Nikon to redo it's
  > > scanners
  > > > and they raised the bar considerably.. So constructively if one
  > > chooses to
  > > > go after a film scanner of this type the LS5000 would be the better
  > of
  > > the
  > > > two choices.
  > > >
  > > > jimbo
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > From: andy bessette
  > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:54 AM
  > > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm
  > > > scanners.
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  > > > Sorry,
  > > >
  > > > but the 5400 II was the last one by Konica Minolta.
  > > >
  > > > Andy
  > > >
  > > > Lew Schwartz schreef:
  > > > > Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or
  > > > Adorama.
  > > >
  > > > No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
  > > > The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...
  > > >
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Re: Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-28 by Clayton Price

As I recall, the 5400 was only for 35mm film.  The Minolta Dimage Scan Multi Pro is the scanner that works from 8 or 16 mm to 6X9.
I still have mine, hardly used, complete with Scanhancer additions which indeed works to decrease grain and artifacts considerably. I'm 
considering selling it because I no longer have the time to scan film myself. For whatever it's worth, I'd rented a Nikon 9000 scanner to 
make comparisons, and found the Minolta scans more to my liking. For 35mm, the optical resolution is 4800 ppi (without upsizing).
My understanding is that  parts are still available - in particular - bulbs, although the last I read, they come from Australia. The Scanhancer
site is run by Eric, and he is very knowledgable about Multi Pro  details. (www.scanhancer.com).

If anyone is interested in purchasing my Multi Pro, kindly contact me off line. I'm located in NYC - if you're near by, you could come and try it out.
Otherwise, it will go on eBay in the next few weeks. 

Regards,

Clayton Price
clay@...

Lew Schwartz schreef wrote:
>> Is the Minolta scanner still being made? I don't see it at B&H or Adorama.

>No Minolta scanner is made anymore. No Minolta camera either :-)
The 5400 was the best model of the Minolta range...


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Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-28 by richardeskin

Just be aware that Nikon is not providing operating system support.  I could not get my LS-5000 to work in Vista and went back to XP on my lap top when I bought I new desktop, since I now use the scanner infrequently.  You might check before you buy to determine if they are supporting Windows 7.  I don't know about Mac operating systems.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Barrett Benton <bwbenton@...> wrote:
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> I bought a new Minolta Dimage Scan 5400 (first version) back in 2004,  
> because (1) I was convinced I wouldn't find anything that good in  
> terms or price-performance again, and (2) that the market for these  
> things was either at or approaching its zenith; digital photography  
> was getting too much traction for things not to change. (For the  
> record, I still shoot film for about 75-80% of my work, so a solid  
> film scanner was and still is necessary.)
> 
> I believe new Nikon 5000s are still available in some places. If you  
> want a new one, the time to buy is NOW. If you don't need a brand- 
> spanking-new version, go for a used one, but you might want to do it  
> soon: I'm rather amazed at the prices people are getting for used  
> examples of my Minolta scanner on a certain auction site, though I  
> suppose I shouldn't be...
> 
> 
> - Barrett
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-28 by David Aschkenas

I just looked on ebay and you still can buy new Nikon Coolscan 9000,  
so I guess if you want or need one, you can still buy one.
I've been using a Coolscan 9000 and have been very pleased with the  
results.
David
-- 
David Aschkenas
915 N. Euclid Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15206
412-363-3458
www.daschkenasphoto.com

On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, richardeskin wrote:

> Just be aware that Nikon is not providing operating system  
> support.  I could not get my LS-5000 to work in Vista and went back  
> to XP on my lap top when I bought I new desktop, since I now use  
> the scanner infrequently.  You might check before you buy to  
> determine if they are supporting Windows 7.  I don't know about Mac  
> operating systems.
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Barrett Benton  
> <bwbenton@...> wrote:
>>
>> I bought a new Minolta Dimage Scan 5400 (first version) back in 2004,
>> because (1) I was convinced I wouldn't find anything that good in
>> terms or price-performance again, and (2) that the market for these
>> things was either at or approaching its zenith; digital photography
>> was getting too much traction for things not to change. (For the
>> record, I still shoot film for about 75-80% of my work, so a solid
>> film scanner was and still is necessary.)
>>
>> I believe new Nikon 5000s are still available in some places. If you
>> want a new one, the time to buy is NOW. If you don't need a brand-
>> spanking-new version, go for a used one, but you might want to do it
>> soon: I'm rather amazed at the prices people are getting for used
>> examples of my Minolta scanner on a certain auction site, though I
>> suppose I shouldn't be...
>>
>>
>> - Barrett
>>
>
>
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Re:Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-08-28 by Paul

For driver support in Win7, be sure to see 
http://photo.net/digital-darkroom-forum/00Ryck

Steel Chn's work saved my Nikon 8000 -- works great.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


"richardeskin" <richard.eskin@...> wrote:
>
> Just be aware that Nikon is not providing operating system support.  I could not get my LS-5000 to work in Vista and went back to XP on my lap top when I bought I new desktop, since I now use the scanner infrequently.  You might check before you buy to determine if they are supporting Windows 7.  I don't know about Mac operating systems.
...

Re: Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-09-11 by zz_ir

I happened buy a Minolta Dimage Dual IV just before Minolta discontinued them.  When I bought my netbook with Windows 7, I found and upgraded the driver so it still works.

keithz

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Lew" <lew1716@...> wrote:
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> What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are we making?
>

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Panic mode: no more affordable 35mm scanners.

2010-09-11 by Paul Grant

Keith,

 

Where did you find the driver.   

 

I have the same scanner and just upgraded to Windows 7 64bit.    I did not
find a driver and was about to purchase ViewScan.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Paul

 

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I happened buy a Minolta Dimage Dual IV just before Minolta discontinued
them. When I bought my netbook with Windows 7, I found and upgraded the
driver so it still works.

keithz

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
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>
> What are people going to do? Nikon no longer lists the LS-5000 on their
product line and there's nothing close cost & quality wise. What plans are
we making?
>




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