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Hello there,

I am playing with a drum pad to program the drum parts in the MP-7, 
but it didn't work quite as I expected. Each of the pads can be 
assigned to a midi channel, effectively allowing you to create your 
own drum kits with the mp-7 internal sounds. When playing that works 
really nice. 

But when I hit "record", I thought each pad would be recorded to its 
own track (or midi channel), so that I would benefit from separate 
quantizing, mute/unmute etc. What is going on? Can't the MP-7 record 
to 2 different tracks at the same time?

Cheers

Sergio

>
> I am playing with a drum pad to program the drum parts in the MP-7,
> but it didn't work quite as I expected. Each of the pads can be
> assigned to a midi channel, effectively allowing you to create your
> own drum kits with the mp-7 internal sounds. When playing that works
> really nice.
>
> But when I hit "record", I thought each pad would be recorded to its
> own track (or midi channel), so that I would benefit from separate
> quantizing, mute/unmute etc. What is going on? Can't the MP-7 record
> to 2 different tracks at the same time?
>


Mmm, good question, I've never actually tried that, and am not sure if it
can or not (although it SHOULD be able to!!!). If your 'reroute external
midi' is 'on', try turning it off. Perhaps then it will?

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What did you do to set up each pad to be a different channel?  That might 
help us figure out what's not working.

rEalm





But when I hit "record", I thought each pad would be recorded to its 
own track (or midi channel), so that I would benefit from separate 
quantizing, mute/unmute etc. What is going on? Can't the MP-7 record 
to 2 different tracks at the same time?



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> What did you do to set up each pad to be a different channel?  That 
might 
> help us figure out what's not working.
> 
> rEalm


Well the each of the pads can be assigned to a midi channel. Say, on 
pad 1 I have a kick drum assigned to channel 1 (using the 
corresponding MP-7 preset) and on pad 2 I have the snare assigned to 
channel 2 (using another preset) etc. I can even edit each preset 
independently. The problem starts when I record. All the data (from 
two different channels) is saved in a single track.
Is it clear?

Cheers

Sergio

Yes, but how are you assigning each pad a seperate midi channel?  Are you 
just specifying that the preset for each channel has only a one note key 
range?  Regardless of how you're doing it (though I'd personally still 
like to know) I think this happens because you can only record onto a 
single TRACK at once, though that track can be set to Multi and therefore 
record on more than one CHANNEL at once.  Record something like you're 
describing, and then go into List Edit mode for that track and see if all 
the data is on the same channel or not....

rEalm






"Sergio Teixeira Jr. <steixeirajr@...>" <steixeirajr
01/21/2003 09:34 AM
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> What did you do to set up each pad to be a different channel?  That 
might 
> help us figure out what's not working.
> 
> rEalm


Well the each of the pads can be assigned to a midi channel. Say, on 
pad 1 I have a kick drum assigned to channel 1 (using the 
corresponding MP-7 preset) and on pad 2 I have the snare assigned to 
channel 2 (using another preset) etc. I can even edit each preset 
independently. The problem starts when I record. All the data (from 
two different channels) is saved in a single track.
Is it clear?

Cheers

Sergio





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> Yes, but how are you assigning each pad a seperate midi channel?  

Well, the drum pad allows me to configure each pad's midi channel. 

Are you 
> just specifying that the preset for each channel has only a one 
note key 
> range?  Regardless of how you're doing it (though I'd personally 
still 
> like to know) 

Sorry, but I don't think I understand your question very well.


I think this happens because you can only record onto a 
> single TRACK at once, though that track can be set to Multi and 
therefore 
> record on more than one CHANNEL at once.

Yes, probably this is the reason. Is there a way to record to more 
than on track at a time?

Yo, EMU people, is this issue (recording to multiple tracks at once) 
being taken care of in the new OS?

:)


Thnak you.

Sergio

AHHHH!  You're using an external drum pad?  I thought you were using the 
XX-7's drum pads, this makes more sense now.  You don't have Rechannelize 
turned on in the MIDI menu?  I don't think there's a way to record to more 
than one track at once, but there is a workaround.  Simply copy the track 
containing all of the data to other tracks, and then set eachof those to 
the specific midi channel you need.  For instance, say you record you drum 
pad playing onto a XX-7 track, and you're using 6 midi channels.  You 
would then copy the track to 5 other tracks, and set each of their midi 
channels to a  different number that matches what you were playing from 
the drum pad.

rEalm




Well, the drum pad allows me to configure each pad's midi channel. 


Yes, probably this is the reason. Is there a way to record to more 
than on track at a time?

Yo, EMU people, is this issue (recording to multiple tracks at once) 
being taken care of in the new OS?

:)


Thnak you.

Sergio


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On 1/21/03 8:34 AM, "Sergio Teixeira Jr. <steixeirajr@...>"
<steixeirajr@...> wrote:

> I am playing with a drum pad to program the drum parts in the MP-7,
> but it didn't work quite as I expected. Each of the pads can be
> assigned to a midi channel, effectively allowing you to create your
> own drum kits with the mp-7 internal sounds. When playing that works
> really nice. 
> 
> But when I hit "record", I thought each pad would be recorded to its
> own track (or midi channel), so that I would benefit from separate
> quantizing, mute/unmute etc. What is going on? Can't the MP-7 record
> to 2 different tracks at the same time?
> 

First I think people are confusing your external drum pad controller with
the pads on the XX-7.  That's why all the questions and doubt about how you
are doing this.

Second you can record multiple channels to a single track by setting the
track to one of the "multi" assignments. (MultiA/MultiB).

Unfortunately there is no simple way to separate a multichannel track into
new tracks with one channel of information per track.  You can though use
the selective note range in the edit commands to accomplish the same thing
in this case (cut all kick notes to track one, snares to track 2 and so on).

This of course can be done without having done the multichannel recording in
the first place.

Unfortunately there is no way to record on two or more tracks.  Hopefully
E-mu will create some easy solution or alternative in a subsequent OS
release.


drk

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On 1/21/03 3:43 PM, "erik_magrini@..." <erik_magrini@...>
wrote:

> Simply copy the track
> containing all of the data to other tracks, and then set eachof those to
> the specific midi channel you need.  For instance, say you record you drum
> pad playing onto a XX-7 track, and you're using 6 midi channels.  You
> would then copy the track to 5 other tracks, and set each of their midi
> channels to a  different number that matches what you were playing from
> the drum pad.
> 
> rEalm

This does not work.  The XX-7 channel output assignment will simply force
all MIDI data recorded on that track to play on the assigned channel.  it
does not filter out the off-channel notes.  You still need to cut/erase the
off-channel data which can only be accomplished in the XX-7 using the
select-by-note-range edit command features.

drk

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