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2002-07-09 by mp3.com/koering
2002-07-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
07/09/02 04:27 PM
Please respond to xl7
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Subject: [xl7] EFX
heard today a great effect in a roland groovebox mc-505 called "LoFi".... soundz a little bit like a bitcrusher, but cooler....
hey man... why does the emu does not have such efx? maybe they will install some new with d next os... wouldn´t be a problem or? think the chips are fast enough....
peace thru beatz
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2002-07-10 by Byron
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-----Original Message-----
From: erik_magrini@... [mailto:erik_magrini@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:11 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] EFX
Yeah lo fi is cool, I wish we had a Slicer function too, awesome way to chop up pads.... Same with Step flanger.
rEalm
"mp3.com/koering"07/09/02 04:27 PM
Please respond to xl7
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject: [xl7] EFX
heard today a great effect in a roland groovebox mc-505 called "LoFi".... soundz a little bit like a bitcrusher, but cooler....
hey man... why does the emu does not have such efx? maybe they will install some new with d next os... wouldn´t be a problem or? think the chips are fast enough....
peace thru beatz
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2002-07-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
If it was just simple 1/16th note on and off's, then yes. The slicer effect has a tone of ramping slices and other features that would be pretty hard to emulate with LFO's, or tempo locked envelopes (I've tried). rEalm You could probably set up an lfo to work as a controllable slicer fx....as I have stated earlier, I havent dug into the XL7's patch editing too much yet (been WAY to busy), but from what I have seen in it, I'm sure it could be done! Byron
2002-07-10 by Byron
Mmmm, understood, I guess I was assuming that a 'slicer' effect was more of a modulable gater or stutter effect....it could still be fun to do something like this useing different randomized lfo shapes on separate layers though, could be like a continuous morphing machine or something. I may have to try that...mmmm Byron -- We haven't the money, so we've got to think. -Lord Rutherford
-----Original Message----- From: erik_magrini@... [mailto:erik_magrini@...] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:39 AM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] EFX If it was just simple 1/16th note on and off's, then yes. The slicer effect has a tone of ramping slices and other features that would be pretty hard to emulate with LFO's, or tempo locked envelopes (I've tried). rEalm You could probably set up an lfo to work as a controllable slicer fx....as I have stated earlier, I havent dug into the XL7's patch editing too much yet (been WAY to busy), but from what I have seen in it, I'm sure it could be done! Byron To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
2002-07-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
It is like a gated effect, but you can use different patterns and have the velocites ramp up and down in note intervals too. I suppose you could get close to the same thing LFO's, but it would take ages longer to program compared to just adding an effect :) rEalm Mmmm, understood, I guess I was assuming that a 'slicer' effect was more of a modulable gater or stutter effect....it could still be fun to do something like this useing different randomized lfo shapes on separate layers though, could be like a continuous morphing machine or something. I may have to try that...mmmm
2002-07-10 by Sean Wilhelmsen
A good method for creating this effect is; create a layer with your desired pad sound, copy that layer to a second. Tweak layer two so that LFO 2 is modulating AMP using one of the square or pulse wavefroms and is tempo locked (1/8. 1/16 etc.). Now, with cord N (knob 14) have that crossfade between the two layers. Save the preset with the pad played as normal and then crossfade when you wanted the gated effect. Add extra release on layer two to give a bit of a delay feel. Also, you can fatten your preset by using all four layers (1 and 2 normal, 3 and 4 gated). To set the crossfade you'll need set the initial amp of layer 2 to -96db and have cord N work in a positive path and layer 1 have cord N work in a negative path. sean at e-mu / ensoniq
> Byron wrote: > > Mmmm, understood, I guess I was assuming that a 'slicer' effect was > more of a modulable gater or stutter effect....it could still be fun > to do something like this useing different randomized lfo shapes on > separate layers though, could be like a continuous morphing machine or > something. I may have to try that...mmmm > > Byron > > > -- > We haven't the money, so we've got to think. > > -Lord Rutherford > > -----Original Message----- > From: erik_magrini@... > [mailto:erik_magrini@...] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:39 AM > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [xl7] EFX > > If it was just simple 1/16th note on and off's, then yes. > The slicer effect has a tone of ramping slices and other > features that would be pretty hard to emulate with LFO's, or > tempo locked envelopes (I've tried). > > rEalm > > You could probably set up an lfo to work as a controllable > slicer fx....as I have stated earlier, I havent dug into the > XL7's patch editing too much yet (been WAY to busy), but > from what I have seen in it, I'm sure it could be done! > Byron > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
2002-07-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Like I said, it's possible, but not as easy :)
rEalm
"Sean Wilhelmsen" <seanw@...>
07/10/02 11:57 AM
Please respond to xl7
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cc: Subject: Re: [xl7] EFX A good method for creating this effect is; create a layer with your desired pad sound, copy that layer to a second. Tweak layer two so that LFO 2 is modulating AMP using one of the square or pulse wavefroms and is tempo locked (1/8. 1/16 etc.). Now, with cord N (knob 14) have that crossfade between the two layers. Save the preset with the pad played as normal and then crossfade when you wanted the gated effect. Add extra release on layer two to give a bit of a delay feel. Also, you can fatten your preset by using all four layers (1 and 2 normal, 3 and 4 gated). To set the crossfade you'll need set the initial amp of layer 2 to -96db and have cord N work in a positive path and layer 1 have cord N work in a negative path. sean at e-mu / ensoniq > Byron wrote: > > Mmmm, understood, I guess I was assuming that a 'slicer' effect was > more of a modulable gater or stutter effect....it could still be fun > to do something like this useing different randomized lfo shapes on > separate layers though, could be like a continuous morphing machine or > something. I may have to try that...mmmm > > Byron > > > -- > We haven't the money, so we've got to think. > > -Lord Rutherford > > -----Original Message----- > From: erik_magrini@... > [mailto:erik_magrini@...] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:39 AM > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [xl7] EFX > > If it was just simple 1/16th note on and off's, then yes. > The slicer effect has a tone of ramping slices and other > features that would be pretty hard to emulate with LFO's, or > tempo locked envelopes (I've tried). > > rEalm > > You could probably set up an lfo to work as a controllable > slicer fx....as I have stated earlier, I havent dug into the > XL7's patch editing too much yet (been WAY to busy), but > from what I have seen in it, I'm sure it could be done! > Byron > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-07-10 by aeon
On 7/10/02 11:57 AM, "Sean Wilhelmsen" <seanw@...> wrote: > A good method for creating this effect is; create a layer > with your desired pad sound, copy that layer to a second. > Tweak layer two so that LFO 2 is modulating AMP using one > of the square or pulse wavefroms and is tempo locked > (1/8. 1/16 etc.). Now, with cord N (knob 14) have that > crossfade between the two layers. Save the preset with the > pad played as normal and then crossfade when you wanted > the gated effect. Add extra release on layer two to give > a bit of a delay feel. Also, you can fatten your preset > by using all four layers (1 and 2 normal, 3 and 4 gated). > To set the crossfade you'll need set the initial amp of > layer 2 to -96db and have cord N work in a positive path > and layer 1 have cord N work in a negative path. Thanks Sean...I am sure that will start many people on their programming path. Other things to consider are the use of multiple summed LFOs to achieve complex rhythmic gating effects. Also, the use of patch links will enable you to set up a trio of patches so you can have your basic sound plus multiple different slicer effects. Of course, you could also modulate LFO depth in those summed LFO patches for real-time shifting between different slicer sounds. Lots of synths can route LFO to AMP, but the fact that E-mu offers so many LFO shapes, tempo sync, multiple LFOs across layers across linked patches and a mod matrix to not only make it possible, but fully-controllable in real-time perhaps makes the XL-7 the king slicer-dicer. I just upgraded from an XL-1 to XL-7...got my new baby last night! :) cheers, aeon