Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Where i can find the XL7/MP7 USB Drivers for my PC.
I couldn't find it on my origanl CD that i got with my XL7.
If someone can upload it to the files section, that will be great.

Thank you

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 10:36 AM, nbaryosef100 wrote:

> Where i can find the XL7/MP7 USB Drivers for my PC.
> I couldn't find it on my origanl CD that i got with my XL7.
> If someone can upload it to the files section, that will be great.

The USB drivers are part of the E-Loader 1.1 release, which can be 
downloaded from:

<http://www.emu.com/support/eloader.html>.

Read the installation instructions included in the download.

Scott

PS: The E-Loader application, drivers and Documentation are copyrighted 
materials and should not be posted to any mirror sites without explicit 
written permission of E-mu Systems, Inc.

Ok, I installed the E-Loader but when I connect my USB cable to the 
computer and to the XL7. They don't recognize each other so I 
couldn't update my OS, so I had to use midi cables. Any idea what is 
wrong and how can I fix it.

Thank you
--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 10:36 AM, nbaryosef100 wrote:
> 
> > Where i can find the XL7/MP7 USB Drivers for my PC.
> > I couldn't find it on my origanl CD that i got with my XL7.
> > If someone can upload it to the files section, that will be great.
> 
> The USB drivers are part of the E-Loader 1.1 release, which can be 
> downloaded from:
> 
> <http://www.emu.com/support/eloader.html>.
> 
> Read the installation instructions included in the download.
> 
> Scott
> 
> PS: The E-Loader application, drivers and Documentation are 
copyrighted 
> materials and should not be posted to any mirror sites without 
explicit 
> written permission of E-mu Systems, Inc.

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 11:19 AM, nbaryosef100 wrote:

> Ok, I installed the E-Loader but when I connect my USB cable to the
> computer and to the XL7. They don't recognize each other so I
> couldn't update my OS, so I had to use midi cables. Any idea what is
> wrong and how can I fix it.

As stated in the E-Loader documentation (as well as various other 
places), OS Download is not supported via USB, only via MIDI. USB is 
used for performance data transfers only. You don't do OS downloads all 
that often, so it doesn't seem that important to speed up that process. 
I'd rather spend the time adding more commonly useful features to 
E-Loader.

If you can't get USB to work with sequence transfers, then that is a 
different problem. There are instructions in the USB Driver Installation 
notes about how to test if the drivers were installed correctly.

Scott

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 11:42 AM, David Jones wrote:

> I don't have my MP7 yet but a question -
>  
> Does the USB port thing ACT as a MIDI port as well?

Not currently. We realize this is a desirable feature, but technically 
this is very difficult to achieve. We are prioritizing USB development 
efforts with the philosophy of doing things that benefit most from the 
speed advantage of USB first, hence bulk sysex transfers are first 
priority. There is little advantage to sending real-time MIDI over USB 
versus a traditional MIDI cable (Classic MIDI?), other than reducing 
cable clutter. In fact, many would argue that MIDI over USB is a 
disadvantage, because USB is inherently sloppier timing wise than 
traditional MIDI. But we do realize why people want it, and it is on our 
feature list.

Scott

If you do get around to implementing it, perhaps you could compress and pre-send
messages with a timestamp in order to keep the timing rock solid.  I believe
that's what eMagic does for theirs, especially if used with Logic.
That sound right?  Also maybe set it up so you could respond tracks A USB tracks
B midi, complete with echo.

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Ruda [mailto:scottr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:12 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Where i can find XL7 USB Drivers for my PC.



On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 11:42 AM, David Jones wrote:

> I don't have my MP7 yet but a question -
> \ufffd
> Does the USB port thing ACT as a MIDI port as well?

Not currently. We realize this is a desirable feature, but technically
this is very difficult to achieve. We are prioritizing USB development
efforts with the philosophy of doing things that benefit most from the
speed advantage of USB first, hence bulk sysex transfers are first
priority. There is little advantage to sending real-time MIDI over USB
versus a traditional MIDI cable (Classic MIDI?), other than reducing
cable clutter. In fact, many would argue that MIDI over USB is a
disadvantage, because USB is inherently sloppier timing wise than
traditional MIDI. But we do realize why people want it, and it is on our
feature list.

Scott



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