Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Good morning,
I've used E-Loader to upgrade the OS, but never to back-up patterns. 
I have a couple of questions for you:

1) How much memory does it takes to back up patters? Let's say that 
I wanted to back-up one pattern that was 32 bars long. How much 
memory on the computer would that take up? The reason I ask is that 
I'll be using my friend's computer to store these back-ups. 

2) Is there any way to burn these back-ups onto a CD once they're on 
the computer (just so we're VERY sure that we'll still have these 
patterns - even if something goes horribly wrong with his PC)?

Thanks a lot for you help,
Fab

Since the pattern is midi and the sound waves don't get transfered, 
you are probably only looking at a very small amount.  I would guess 
if you saved all the patterns it would only be a few MB.  MIDI 
information is small, like KB per song.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> I've used E-Loader to upgrade the OS, but never to back-up 
patterns. 
> I have a couple of questions for you:
> 
> 1) How much memory does it takes to back up patters? Let's say 
that 
> I wanted to back-up one pattern that was 32 bars long. How much 
> memory on the computer would that take up? The reason I ask is 
that 
> I'll be using my friend's computer to store these back-ups. 
> 
> 2) Is there any way to burn these back-ups onto a CD once they're 
on 

> the computer (just so we're VERY sure that we'll still have these 
> patterns - even if something goes horribly wrong with his PC)?
> 
> Thanks a lot for you help,
> Fab

Patterns and songs can be stored on the computer's hard drive and 
then burned to CD-R, RWs.  They will be stored as standard midi 
files. The size of each file depends on the data stored in the 
pattern. I have never backed up an e-mu sequencer that was at 0% 
remaining, so I have no idea how big the total of all patterns and 
songs can be.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,> I've used E-Loader to upgrade the OS, but never to 
back-up patterns. 
> I have a couple of questions for you:
> 
> 1) How much memory does it takes to back up patters? Let's say 
that 
> I wanted to back-up one pattern that was 32 bars long. How much 
> memory on the computer would that take up? The reason I ask is 
that 
> I'll be using my friend's computer to store these back-ups. 
> 
> 2) Is there any way to burn these back-ups onto a CD once they're 
on 

> the computer (just so we're VERY sure that we'll still have these 
> patterns - even if something goes horribly wrong with his PC)?
> 
> Thanks a lot for you help,
> Fab

Thanks for the replies, guys. It helps a lot. I've got another 
question for you: Have you ever noticed a degradation in sound 
quality when you reload the pattern back onto the XL-7 from your 
computer, or is the sound exactly the same quality? I'm probably 
just being paranoid, but I'd hate for the sound to get degraded in 
any way (especially after my recent discovery that my audio outs are 
not up-to-par). 
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> 
> Patterns and songs can be stored on the computer's hard drive and 
> then burned to CD-R, RWs.  They will be stored as standard midi 
> files. The size of each file depends on the data stored in the 
> pattern. I have never backed up an e-mu sequencer that was at 0% 
> remaining, so I have no idea how big the total of all patterns and 
> songs can be.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Good morning,> I've used E-Loader to upgrade the OS, but never 
to 
> back-up patterns. 
> > I have a couple of questions for you:
> > 
> > 1) How much memory does it takes to back up patters? Let's say 
> that 
> > I wanted to back-up one pattern that was 32 bars long. How much 
> > memory on the computer would that take up? The reason I ask is 
> that 
> > I'll be using my friend's computer to store these back-ups. 
> > 
> > 2) Is there any way to burn these back-ups onto a CD once 
they're 
> on 
> > the computer (just so we're VERY sure that we'll still have 
these 

> > patterns - even if something goes horribly wrong with his PC)?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for you help,
> > Fab

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fab Claxton [mailto:fabclaxton@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Re: Using E-Loader to back-up patterns - how 
> much memory?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the replies, guys. It helps a lot. I've got 
> another question for you: Have you ever noticed a degradation 
> in sound quality when you reload the pattern back onto the 
> XL-7 from your computer, or is the sound exactly the same 
> quality? I'm probably just being paranoid, but I'd hate for 
> the sound to get degraded in any way (especially after my 
> recent discovery that my audio outs are not up-to-par). 
> Fab


There could be no degredation. It's just not possible when moving the files
as midi control data only.  No audio is actually transferred.

-m@