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Hi all,
I've just started using my Mp7 with an 1820 soundcard and cubase. 
When it's slaved to cubase the bpm seems to wander either side of the 
setting on the pc. Is this usual? To my ear the timing is slightly 
off.

Tom.

press MIDI button - pg 1 is BASE TEMPO -hit Right Cursor button 1X to
position cursor on TEMPO (bpm) - Scroll LEFT to below "1" - it will
read EXT. Now the machine is ready to sync to MIDI beat clock

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "thomaspotts666" <thomaspotts666@y...> wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> I've just started using my Mp7 with an 1820 soundcard and cubase. 
> When it's slaved to cubase the bpm seems to wander either side of the 
> setting on the pc. Is this usual? To my ear the timing is slightly 
> off.
> 
> Tom.

nothing that simple unfortunately, I've had it set to 'ext' already. 
Having recorded a 5min track the audio is definitely drifting out by 
the end on cubase (sx). Any more suggestions?

Thanks though.
Tom


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "vibesart" <edmann@p...> wrote:
> 
> press MIDI button - pg 1 is BASE TEMPO -hit Right Cursor button 1X 
to
> position cursor on TEMPO (bpm) - Scroll LEFT to below "1" - it will
> read EXT. Now the machine is ready to sync to MIDI beat clock
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "thomaspotts666" <thomaspotts666@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I've just started using my Mp7 with an 1820 soundcard and cubase. 
> > When it's slaved to cubase the bpm seems to wander either side of 
the 
> > setting on the pc. Is this usual? To my ear the timing is 
slightly 

> > off.
> > 
> > Tom.

is the timing set to a full bpm setting like i.e. 91, or to one with a
fraction i.e. 91.250 within cubase?
 
when sequencing the mp-7 only allows full bpm's, i don't know if that's
also the case when slaved to another device or sequencer, but you might
want to check that as well
 
cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: thomaspotts666 [mailto:thomaspotts666@...] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2005 17:37
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: midi sync



nothing that simple unfortunately, I've had it set to 'ext' already. 
Having recorded a 5min track the audio is definitely drifting out by 
the end on cubase (sx). Any more suggestions?

Thanks though.
Tom


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "vibesart" <edmann@p...> wrote:
> 
> press MIDI button - pg 1 is BASE TEMPO -hit Right Cursor button 1X 
to
> position cursor on TEMPO (bpm) - Scroll LEFT to below "1" - it will
> read EXT. Now the machine is ready to sync to MIDI beat clock
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "thomaspotts666" <thomaspotts666@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I've just started using my Mp7 with an 1820 soundcard and cubase. 
> > When it's slaved to cubase the bpm seems to wander either side of 
the 
> > setting on the pc. Is this usual? To my ear the timing is 
slightly 
> > off.
> > 
> > Tom.





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In my experience, MIDI clock timing depends *a lot* of the computer 
software and hardware configuration.

You may want to use MidiTime and MidiTest to find out which clock is 
better for your system, and choose emulated or "real" ports accordingly:
http://www.jay.fm/blog/pc-midi-timing-and-nuendo.html
http://earthvegaconnection.com/evc/products/miditest
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
I hit the CTRL key but I'm still not in control!

Thanks for the links; the sites were quite informative.  Haven't run 
the timing utility yet, but it looks interesting.  I had trouble 
syncing the original E-Mu OS that came with my P2500 with Cakewalk, 
but OS2.0 sees to have solved those problems.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "[cYcLoThYmIqUe]" <poumtschak@f...> wrote:
> In my experience, MIDI clock timing depends *a lot* of the computer 
> software and hardware configuration.
> 
> You may want to use MidiTime and MidiTest to find out which clock 
is 
> better for your system, and choose emulated or "real" ports 
accordingly:

> http://www.jay.fm/blog/pc-midi-timing-and-nuendo.html
> http://earthvegaconnection.com/evc/products/miditest
> -- 
> Sebastien,
> -=-=-=-=-=
> I hit the CTRL key but I'm still not in control!

i've had the same problem with my XL-7 and Digital Performer on a Mac G4. i tried a 
million different tests and changes, with no luck.  the problem finally seemed to go away 
when i connected the XL-7 to my MIDI interface with an expensive Mogami MIDI cable.

but alas for me, the problem returned.

now i think i've got it beat: once i got a new M-Audio MIDI interface, the problem 
vanished. completely. and it's been stable for weeks now. it seems that my XL-7 didn't like 
the sync sent through my MOTU Micro Lite interface.

if you can, try a different interface from a different manufacterer. and high-end cables 
don't hurt either!

good luck!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:

> 
> Thanks for the links; the sites were quite informative.  Haven't run 
> the timing utility yet, but it looks interesting.  I had trouble 
> syncing the original E-Mu OS that came with my P2500 with Cakewalk, 
> but OS2.0 sees to have solved those problems.
> 
> --Steve