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Are the sounds stored within the pattern or do they have to be stored in a 
"global setup" ? If that's the case, it sucks, since i have to go looking 
for the right global setup every time i load a different pattern.

>>>The locations of the Presets you use in a Pattern are stored with the 
Pattern.  The Emu term for a "global setup" is "Multisetup" BTW. <<<

Which one is the global setup that is loaded at startup ? 

>>>The last Multisetup you used will be loaded each time you turn the XX-7 
on. <<<

Everytime i turn the machine on i have to do a lot of repetitive tasks, 
like changing the midi routing for several channels and turning local 
control on. I have stored the modified global setup at the beginning (#0) 
and in other patterns, and every time i turn the machine on, it goes back 
to the previous settings.

>>>Don't store it in a Pattern (umm, you can't really do that anyway, so 
?????).  Make the changes you want, then save the current Multi.  Each 
time you turn on the XX-7, that Multi will be used.  If you switch 
multi's, the new multi will be loaded at start up. <<<

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This is a newbie question, but...

Are the sounds stored within the pattern or do they have to be stored in a "global setup" ? If that's the case, it sucks, since i have to go looking for the right global setup every time i load a different pattern.

Another question:

Which one is the global setup that is loaded at startup ? Everytime i turn the machine on i have to do a lot of repetitive tasks, like changing the midi routing for several channels and turning local control on. I have stored the modified global setup at the beginning (#0) and in other patterns, and every time i turn the machine on, it goes back to the previous settings.

Jose

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> Are the sounds stored within the pattern or do they have to be stored
> in a "global setup" ? 

-->The presets stored in the pattern, as is a lot of the settings. You
should download the manual off the website for more information. See
page 50 (printed) for more info.


> Which one is the global setup that is loaded at startup ? Everytime i
> turn the machine on i have to do a lot of repetitive tasks, like
> changing the midi routing for several channels 

-->MIDI routing is also / can also be stored per-pattern.

I find global setups are really only used for start points for a song /
pattern. Save a global setup that describes your studio, your live
setup, etc; and you can use the setup to set your patterns up before
you begin writing them.

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The presets stored in the pattern, as is a lot of the settings. 

>>>Just because I can see this causing some confusion, let me clear this 
up a bit. Presets are NOT stored with the Pattern.  Presets are completely 
independant from Patterns, if you tweak a Preset, then save a PATTERN, all 
of the tweaks you made to the Preset will be gone next time you turn on 
your XX-7.  Presets are independant entities that are stored completely 
seperate from Patterns. The Pattern stores the LOCATION of the Preset, not 
the actual Preset data.  If you tweak a Preset to your liking, you need to 
save that to a new User Preset location via the save menu.  the Pattern 
will remember this new location automatically, but you must still save the 
Pattern for this to be remembered.

When in doubt, save the Preset, then resave your Pattern. <<<

I find global setups are really only used for start points for a song 
/pattern. Save a global setup that describes your studio, your live setup, 
etc; and you can use the setup to set your patterns up before you begin 
writing them.

>>>Same here, I only use Multi's for remember different global settings 
depending on my use of the machine (live, studio, etc).  The easiest 
option is to just make all your global settings, save the current multi as 
something like "PX-7 Default" and then forget about the Multi function 
until you find yourself needing it for something else. <<<

rEalm
 








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Presets are NOT stored with the Pattern.  Presets are completely 
> independant from Patterns, if you tweak a Preset, then save a
> PATTERN, all 
> of the tweaks you made to the Preset will be gone next time you turn
> on your XX-7.  Presets are independant entities that are stored
> completely seperate from Patterns. The Pattern stores the LOCATION of
the Preset, not the actual Preset data. 

-->Let me make this even MORE confusing. :) Tweaks ARE stored with the
pattern. :) Any knob twiddles are kept in the pattern (and song). And I
haven't tried any sysex in my tracks yet, but can't you store sysex
within the patterns?

But yes, He's right to clarify that the preset itself is not stored in
the pattern, but a preset location (think PATCH CHANGE) is.


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Hey, thanks everyone for the prompt answers. I'm running a test now about warmth with 220 / 110 V settings.

I've been running the XL7 all this time at 220, and i'm wondering if that's healthy or not.

Jose

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  From: cosine... zero 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Presets stored within pattern ?????


  Presets are NOT stored with the Pattern.  Presets are completely 
  > independant from Patterns, if you tweak a Preset, then save a
  > PATTERN, all 
  > of the tweaks you made to the Preset will be gone next time you turn
  > on your XX-7.  Presets are independant entities that are stored
  > completely seperate from Patterns. The Pattern stores the LOCATION of
  the Preset, not the actual Preset data. 

  -->Let me make this even MORE confusing. :) Tweaks ARE stored with the
  pattern. :) Any knob twiddles are kept in the pattern (and song). And I
  haven't tried any sysex in my tracks yet, but can't you store sysex
  within the patterns?

  But yes, He's right to clarify that the preset itself is not stored in
  the pattern, but a preset location (think PATCH CHANGE) is.


  cosinezero

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The thing was more stupid than i thought at the beginning:

I control my XL7 with a Novation KS4 keyboard. Everytime i turn on both instruments, i change the KS4 settings to "Local OFF" so the keyboard won't play a pad while i'm playing drums.

But the KS4 sends the LOCAL OFF midi message through its midi out port, and the KS4 cleverly accepts it as an order to turn its own local control OFF.

That means that when i played any pattern, the sequencer didn't obey the PROGRAM and BANK messages, and then all the patterns played with the same awful sounds.

Easy, and pretty silly too. It had nothing to do with multisetups or the ability to store program values in the pattern. :-doh !

By the way, i'm running my XL7 on a 220 - 110 converter and  it gets warm, but not hot. I can feel the difference, but i'm waiting a good running in order to actually measure the temperature with a thermometer. Now it's 30º C (86º F) here in Chile, and it's almost midnight. Feckin' weather.

Jose

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: José Sáez 
  To: xl7@...m 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Presets stored within pattern ?????


  Hey, thanks everyone for the prompt answers. I'm running a test now about warmth with 220 / 110 V settings.

  I've been running the XL7 all this time at 220, and i'm wondering if that's healthy or not.

  Jose

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: cosine... zero 
    To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [xl7] Presets stored within pattern ?????


    Presets are NOT stored with the Pattern.  Presets are completely 
    > independant from Patterns, if you tweak a Preset, then save a
    > PATTERN, all 
    > of the tweaks you made to the Preset will be gone next time you turn
    > on your XX-7.  Presets are independant entities that are stored
    > completely seperate from Patterns. The Pattern stores the LOCATION of
    the Preset, not the actual Preset data. 

    -->Let me make this even MORE confusing. :) Tweaks ARE stored with the
    pattern. :) Any knob twiddles are kept in the pattern (and song). And I
    haven't tried any sysex in my tracks yet, but can't you store sysex
    within the patterns?

    But yes, He's right to clarify that the preset itself is not stored in
    the pattern, but a preset location (think PATCH CHANGE) is.


    cosinezero

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