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Strange issue controling EA1

Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-27 by lsdialectic

Hi all,

I have been recording some parts over from my MC505 to my PX7. On one 
particular track, the recording works fine, the notes are recorded, 
and play back OK. I have part 9 on the PX7 playing a bass line on the 
EA1, and part 11 playing a lead line on the EA1. It all works 
fine,until powering off and back on. Then the bass line is still 
fine, but the lead line is messed up, it plays OK for the first 2 
bars, but then seems to transform itself into a pad type sound. As it 
cycles, the problem remains.

I have tried it with different synths, and the internal sounds, and 
the same thing keeps happening. If I record it again, and save it, it 
is fine again, until I power off and back on. This seems weird, 
surely it should play the pattern back as it was saved?

I'd appreciate any inisghts...

Cheers,

Jason.

RE: [xl7] Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-28 by Turby Schmidt

probably youve recorded some nrpn message,
try
Pattern menue - delete events - sysex

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RE: [xl7] Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-28 by Matt Picone

> Subject: RE: [xl7] Strange issue controling EA1
> 
> 
> probably youve recorded some nrpn message,
> try
> Pattern menue - delete events - sysex

Speaking of EA1...  I have a Korg ER-1 for sale. 
Sweet box to control from a command station!
Speak now or forever it goes to eBay!
Shipping deals for list friends...

-m@

RE: [xl7] Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-28 by Aaron Eppolito

--- Turby Schmidt <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
> probably youve recorded some nrpn message,
> try Pattern menue - delete events - sysex

Turby's on the right track, but erasing sysex won't erase a NRPN.  More
likely is that you recorded a amplitude envelope controller (making
your lead sound like a pad).  Look through the events on that track in
the list editor to find a controller above 65, or if that's daunting,
try erasing all controllers (like above, just pick all controllers
instead of sysex).

-Aaron


	
		
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Re: [xl7] Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-28 by Jason Sawyer

Hi Matt and Turby,

Thanks for replying with your ideas. It seems that it was Sysex data from
the MC505, recorded into the part, and then producing some weird envelope
changes on the EA1. I had the MC505 in mode 1, which is syssex mode. When I
changed it to mode 2, CC mode, and then re recorded the riff, it was fine,
and stayed that way after powering off.

BTW, I forgot my manners: I haven't introduced myself to the group yet. I've
been a long time member of the MC505 yahoo group, recently got a PX7 with
the Beat Garden and XL7 ROMs, so I'm recording my older tracks to the PX7
before selling my 505.

Cheers,

Jason
Dialectic Productions
dialectic@...
www.dialecticproductions.com


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Subject: RE: [xl7] Strange issue controling EA1


> --- Turby Schmidt <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
> > probably youve recorded some nrpn message,
> > try Pattern menue - delete events - sysex
>
> Turby's on the right track, but erasing sysex won't erase a NRPN.  More
> likely is that you recorded a amplitude envelope controller (making
> your lead sound like a pad).  Look through the events on that track in
> the list editor to find a controller above 65, or if that's daunting,
> try erasing all controllers (like above, just pick all controllers
> instead of sysex).
>
> -Aaron
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Re: Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-30 by gonzinigonz

> been a long time member of the MC505 yahoo group, recently got a 
PX7 with
> the Beat Garden and XL7 ROMs, so I'm recording my older tracks to 
the PX7
> before selling my 505.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jason

How do you find the XL-7 and beat garden up against the MC505.
is the command station a lot more creative interface etc.. (mines 
still in the post somewhere..)
Regards
Gonz

Re: [xl7] Re: Strange issue controling EA1

2004-06-30 by Jason Sawyer

Hey Gonz,

The command stations have a much greater range of sounds, and the sounds can
be edited in far more depth.

The XL ROM alone seems to have more varied sounds than the 505, while
covering the same general area (909/808/TB303 sounds etc.) the arpeggiators
are much more powerful, and well suited to the instruments.

The Beat Garden has some great guitar sounds, paired with much more
convincing arpeggiators than the 505. The basic tones on the command
stations are much richer than those on the 505, and the depth of editing
available, especially the filters, completely blows the 505 away. In terms
of the interface, the sliders on the 505 are hard to beat, (although the
multi function knobs on the command stations are great) and there are only 2
effects processors compared to 3 on the 505. The effects routing is also
more limited in some ways, as there are only 4 sends, compared to the 505's
7+7 drums, but the effects are of  a higher quality IMHO. Also, on the
Command Stations, you can send a sound to a seperate output, and still send
it to the on board effects processors, which is not possible on the 505.

Cheers,

Jason
Dialectic Productions
dialectic@...
www.dialecticproductions.com



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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:31 AM
Subject: [xl7] Re: Strange issue controling EA1


> > been a long time member of the MC505 yahoo group, recently got a
> PX7 with
> > the Beat Garden and XL7 ROMs, so I'm recording my older tracks to
> the PX7
> > before selling my 505.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jason
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> How do you find the XL-7 and beat garden up against the MC505.
> is the command station a lot more creative interface etc.. (mines
> still in the post somewhere..)
> Regards
> Gonz
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