The Mellotron Group

	From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles
	Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:34 PM
	To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
	
	
	  

	Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine
yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube
footage)

>
> Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
>

----- Original Message -----

From: feline1973

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:03 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

He told me by email he was intending to ship in July,
but I couldn't afford one ...
I notice there's been no further update their webpage, but that means little going by the state of the rest of mellotron.com (Pinder CD Vol2, "aiming for a summer release" - er, is that summer 2007 or 2008, guys?)
There was a review of the Manniken tron 1U module in Sound on Sound last month which neglected any mention of the M4000D - since it was written by synth-pedant extrordinaire Gordon Reid, I did wonder why he omitted mention of it...

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
>

>
> Who cares?
> I'm a Streetly man, and that "thing" in Sweden is of no interest to me.
> Waiting for my M5000.
> 
> Dr. Tony Moffett
> Tampa
>  U.S.A.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: feline1973 
>   To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:03 AM
>   Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
>     
>   He told me by email he was intending to ship in July,
>   but I couldn't afford one ...
>   I notice there's been no further update their webpage, but that means little going by the state of the rest of mellotron.com (Pinder CD Vol2, "aiming for a summer release" - er, is that summer 2007 or 2008, guys?)
>   There was a review of the Manniken tron 1U module in Sound on Sound last month which neglected any mention of the M4000D - since it was written by synth-pedant extrordinaire Gordon Reid, I did wonder why he omitted mention of it...
> 
>   --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
>   >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: lsf5275@aol.com

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:59 AM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

Don't bother... It's just Tony being Tony. He's just being enthusiastic about his investment.

It will be interesting when the end users start reporting in.

Frank

In a message dated 11/23/2010 10:38:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, feline1@feline1.co.uk writes:

The original question poster cared, hence his asking the question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos you won't like it...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _lsf5275@aol.com_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com)  
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:59  AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re:  M4000 D



Don't bother... It's just Tony being Tony. He's just being enthusiastic  
about his investment. 
 
It will be interesting when the end users start reporting in.
 
Frank
 
 
In a message dated 11/23/2010 10:38:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_feline1@feline1.co.uk_ (mailto:feline1@feline1.co.uk)  writes:

The original question poster cared, hence his asking the  question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos  you won't 
like it...

----- Original Message -----

From: lsf5275@aol.com

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

Ohh, now it's DOCTOR Moffett . Run everyone.

In a message dated 11/23/2010 11:19:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:

Well you don't have to be a genius to figure out the difference.

Bring it on feline.

Dr. Anthony T. Moffett

----- Original Message -----

From: lsf5275@aol.com

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:59 AM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

Don't bother... It's just Tony being Tony. He's just being enthusiastic about his investment.

It will be interesting when the end users start reporting in.

Frank

In a message dated 11/23/2010 10:38:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, feline1@feline1.co.uk writes:

The original question poster cared, hence his asking the question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos you won't like it...

>Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>Computer Science
> 
>Dr. Death

----- Original Message -----

From: lsf5275@aol.com

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:46 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.

Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.

In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:

Yes it is, and has been.

Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.

Computer Science

Dr. Death

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: william Beith 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D


    

  How many Ph.D's does it take to change a light bulb?

  Only one.......but the bulb really has to want to change!




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  From: "lsf5275@aol.com" <lsf5275@aol.com>
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 1:46:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

    

  Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.

  Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.

  In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:
    Yes it is, and has been.
    Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
    Computer Science

    Dr. Death

Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.

Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.

In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:

Yes it is, and has been.

Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.

Computer Science

Dr. Death

-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D


  
    
                  
Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
 
Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
 

In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:
  
Yes it is, and has been.
  
Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and   Ph.D.
  
Computer Science
  
 
  
Dr. Death

>
> 
>  shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> 
> 
> fd
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
>  
> Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
>  
> 
> In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
>   
> Yes it is, and has been.
>   
> Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and   Ph.D.
>   
> Computer Science
>   
>  
>   
> Dr. Death
>

On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just found this demo of the new machine:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
> >
> > 
> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> > 
> > 
> > fd
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> > 
> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
> > 
> > Yes it is, and has been.
> > 
> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> > 
> > Computer Science
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dr. Death
> >
> 
>

On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

> Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> 
> M
> 
> mellotronics.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Just found this demo of the new machine:
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
>> 
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > fd
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
>> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
>> > 
>> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
>> > 
>> > Yes it is, and has been.
>> > 
>> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>> > 
>> > Computer Science
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Dr. Death
>> >
>> 
> 
>

>
> Ok - time to say my bit.  And this is me, not JB.  We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo.  It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed).  The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic.  But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.  
> 
> Best,
> 
> M             
> 
> mellotronics.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> 
> > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> > 
> > M
> > 
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
> > 
> >>  
> >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
> >> 
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> >> 
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > fd
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> >> > 
> >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
> >> > 
> >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> >> > 
> >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> >> > 
> >> > Computer Science
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Dr. Death
> >> >
> >> 
> > 
> >
>

>

> Ok - time to say my bit.  And this is me, not JB.  We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo.  It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed).  The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic.  But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.  

> 

> Best,

> 

> M             

> 

> mellotronics.co.uk

> 

> 

> 

> On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:

> 

> > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.

> > 

> > M

> > 

> > mellotronics.co.uk

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:

> > 

> >>  

> >> Just found this demo of the new machine:

> >> 

> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0

> >> 

> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:

> >> >

> >> > 

> >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > fd

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > -----Original Message-----

> >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>

> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>

> >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm

> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.

> >> > 

> >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:

> >> > 

> >> > Yes it is, and has been.

> >> > 

> >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.

> >> > 

> >> > Computer Science

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > 

> >> > Dr. Death

> >> >

> >> 

> > 

> >

>

> >> > 
> >>  > Yes it is, and has been.
> >> > 
> >>  > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> >> >  
> >> > Computer Science
> >> > 
>  >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Dr.  Death
> >> >
> >> 
> > 
>  >
>

>
> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no. 
> 
> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has  a strange keyboard.
> 
> Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
> 
>  I can understand why somebody would  buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       uhhh can't we all just get along?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Ok - time to say my bit.  And this is me, not JB.  We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo.  It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed).  The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic.  But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Best,
> 
> > 
> 
> > M             
> 
> > 
> 
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > M
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > mellotronics.co.uk
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> 
> > > 
> 
> > >>  
> 
> > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
> 
> > >> 
> 
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> 
> > >> 
> 
> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
> 
> > >> >
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > fd
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> 
> > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> 
> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> 
> > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> 
> > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > Computer Science
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > 
> 
> > >> > Dr. Death
> 
> > >> >
> 
> > >> 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > >
> 
> >
>

>
> I suppose if you are going to tour and you need that "look," and all those  
> sounds, the Digital machine would make sense. 200 Mellotron and Chamberlin  
> sounds in one box is attractive. I think that alone is the big attraction. 
> But  once you have all of those sounds, Markus has nothing left to sell you.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:03:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> markpringnz@... writes:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at  world history or 
> even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is  no. 
> 
> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a  rompler that 
> has  a strange keyboard.
> 
> Is anybody on the list  thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
> 
> I can  understand why somebody would  buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why  
> not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD?  I 
> wouldn't if it was my business.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- On Tue,  30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From:  Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup]  Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received:  Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
> 
> 
>  
> uhhh can't we all just get along?
> 
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
> (mip://06c2e6b0/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> >
> > Ok - time to say  my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature 
> individuals in theory  but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held 
> onto the  vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot  
> escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate  
> consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron  infringing 
> almost everything including the fridge and  underpants(leaving a witty 
> personality unscathed). The truth is that  NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in 
> anything mellotronic. But that  is never going to be the case because we are 
> here for duration and no  slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going 
> to alter our  course. 
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > M 
> > 
> >  mellotronics.co.uk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 29 Nov 2010,  at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > 
> > >  Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> > >  
> > > M
> > > 
> > > mellotronics.co.uk
> >  > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 29 Nov 2010, at  17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> > > 
> >  >> 
> > >> Just found this demo of the new  machine:
> > >> 
> > >> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0_ 
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0) 
> >  >> 
> > >> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
> (mip://06c2e6b0/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  fdoddy@ wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > 
> >  >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at  college.
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> >  >> > fd
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> >  >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> >  >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> >  >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From:  lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup  <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
> (mip://06c2e6b0/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
> >  >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> > >> >  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >> >  
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> >  
> > >> > 
> > >> > Look who's the smarty  Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. 
> Ran out of money. I wanted  the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I 
> accidentally got a job that  paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> >  >> > 
> > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out  of work. Hmmm.
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> >  >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time, 
> atm655@ writes:
> > >> > 
> > >>  > Yes it is, and has been.
> > >> > 
> > >>  > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> > >> >  
> > >> > Computer Science
> > >> > 
> >  >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > Dr.  Death
> > >> >
> > >> 
> > > 
> >  >
> >
>

>
> The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great)  Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
>   I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
>

	From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
	Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:05 AM
	To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
	
	
	  

	
	I suppose if you are going to tour and you need that "look," and
all those sounds, the Digital machine would make sense. 200 Mellotron
and Chamberlin sounds in one box is attractive. I think that alone is
the big attraction. But once you have all of those sounds, Markus has
nothing left to sell you.
	 
	In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:03:32 A.M. Eastern Standard
Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:

 From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:05  AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D




I suppose if you are going to tour and you need that "look," and all  those 
sounds, the Digital machine would make sense. 200 Mellotron and  Chamberlin 
sounds in one box is attractive. I think that alone is the big  attraction. 
But once you have all of those sounds, Markus has nothing left  to sell you.
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:03:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:

>
> I can see why Streetly is annoyed, and I don't really understand what advantage  was gained by using that name. That being said...I think the M4000D is a very attractive machine-  a wooden keyboard! I actually like the feel of a real mellotron and would be more comfortable playing something that approximated it and even resembled it . If I was going to do a small tour I would get one. I would certainly not use it in the studio though or consider it a replacement for a tape based unit. I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under. 
> On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Charles wrote:
> 
> > The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great) Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
> > I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no. 
> > > 
> > > I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has  a strange keyboard.
> > > 
> > > Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
> > > 
> > >  I can understand why somebody would  buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Charles <charel196@>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Â 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > uhhh can't we all just get along?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > M 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > mellotronics.co.uk
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > M
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > mellotronics.co.uk
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > >> 
> > > 
> > > > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
> > > 
> > > > >> 
> > > 
> > > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> > > 
> > > > >> 
> > > 
> > > > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > > >> >
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > fd
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > 
> > > > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> > > 
> > > > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > > 
> > > > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> > > 
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > Computer Science
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > 
> > > > >> > Dr. Death
> > > 
> > > > >> >
> > > 
> > > > >> 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

>
> Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in  
> tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves it.
>  
> M
>  
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
> www.mellotronics.co.uk
> NEW for iPad!
> MELLOTRONICS M3000HD 
> US Sales  East: Jimmy Moore  (http://JMoore6397@.../) 
> US Sales  West: Paul Cox  (http://pjc56@.../) 
> myspace.com/chloesmithmusic  
> 
>  
> In a message dated 30/11/2010 14:09:08 GMT Standard Time,  
> charel196@... writes:
> 
> BTW- I  love the look & sound of Streetly's unit and have nothing against 
> it at  all, but I would never have one and move it around to live  gigs.
>

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      


I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I 
refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, 
they come to me.
 

In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
tronbros@aol.com writes:

  Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in 
  tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves 
it.

>
> Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...> wrote:
> 
> From: lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       
> 
> 
> I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I 
> refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, 
> they come to me.
> Â 
> 
> In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> tronbros@... writes:
> 
>   Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in 
>   tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves 
> it.
>

>

> Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?

> 

> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...> wrote:

> 

> From: lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...>

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Â 

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

>     

>       

>       

>       

> 

> 

> I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I 

> refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, 

> they come to me.

> Â 

> 

> In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

> tronbros@... writes:

> 

>   Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in 

>   tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves 

> it.

>

>
> Thanks Charles. I had just started to wonder about one, but that is too much for me, I'll keep up my internecine battles with #1565 for now.
> 
> Mark
> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 10:56 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> 
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> 
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> >   
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> >     
> 
> >       
> 
> >       
> 
> >       
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I 
> 
> > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, 
> 
> > they come to me.
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> 
> > tronbros@ writes:
> 
> > 
> 
> >   Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in 
> 
> >   tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves 
> 
> > it.
> 
> >
>

> 
> > tow at every gig.  That's  dedication.......and he loves 
> 
> > it.
> 
>  >
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D



"Eccentrics"?  My wife has a not so flattering term for us....

she calls us "Freaks"...

she may be right...


On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:




>>"I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under."

Tom,

Marcus will probably sell more of the "Ds" than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small "niche"

market of the tape based Mellotrons.  I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under.  As to the "few eccentrics" they are all here

on this list !!  ....uh that's a complement guys :) !!

Cheers All!! :)

>
> Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in  
> tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves it.
>  
> M
>  
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
> www.mellotronics.co.uk
> NEW for iPad!
> MELLOTRONICS M3000HD 
> US Sales  East: Jimmy Moore  (http://JMoore6397@.../) 
> US Sales  West: Paul Cox  (http://pjc56@.../) 
> myspace.com/chloesmithmusic  
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Brumm

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:00 PM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

Hi David! …..I’ve been called both…probably rightly so…. J

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

"Eccentrics"? My wife has a not so flattering term for us....

she calls us "Freaks"...

she may be right...

On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:

>>“I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.”

Tom,

Marcus will probably sell more of the “Ds” than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small “niche”

market of the tape based Mellotrons. I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under. As to the “few eccentrics” they are all here

on this list !! ….uh that’s a complement guys J !!

Cheers All!! J

	From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles
	Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:05 AM
	To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
	
	
	  

	I got to wondering about any potential "tech issues" which might
develop down the road with the digital unit. Since these are small run,
hand made instruments and the only support is in Sweden, what happens in
case of malfunctions...or what exactly COULD go wrong with these and how
easily are they fixed by local repair places? What's the breakdown rate
on Memotrons? (has anyone heard?) It's not like tape replay where you
can change a single broken tape or blown capacitor. I magine the whole
thing is on a motherboard but what issues could potentially develop? How
long will the ROM last? etc. etc. If I got one it's not like I would
want to ship it back and forth from Ohio to Sweden for repairs. I assume
all parts are easily replaced locally (except the sounds).

From: Charles <charel196@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 8:07 AM


  



I got to wondering about any potential "tech issues" which might develop down the road with the digital unit. Since these are small run, hand made instruments and the only support is in Sweden, what happens in case of malfunctions...or what exactly COULD go wrong with these and how easily are they fixed by local repair places? What's the breakdown rate on Memotrons? (has anyone heard?) It's not like tape replay where you can change a single broken tape or blown capacitor. I imagine the whole thing is on a motherboard but what issues could potentially develop? How long will the ROM last? etc. etc. If I got one it's not
like I would want to ship it back and forth from Ohio to Sweden for repairs. I assume all parts are easily replaced locally (except the sounds).

>
> $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > 
> > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Â 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >     
> >       
> >       
> >       
> > 
> > 
> > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I 
> > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, 
> > they come to me.
> > Â 
> > 
> > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > tronbros@ writes:
> > 
> >   Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in 
> >   tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves 
> > it.
> >
>

>

> $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)

> 

> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:

> >

> > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?

> > 

> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:

> > 

> > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>

> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

> > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > Â 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> >   

> > 

> > 

> >     

> >       

> >       

> >       

> > 

> > 

> > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I 

> > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, 

> > they come to me.

> > Â 

> > 

> > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

> > tronbros@ writes:

> > 

> >   Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in 

> >   tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves 

> > it.

> >

>

>
> Charles,
> 
> Where did you find the info on the rackmount?  I searched but didn't see it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> >
> > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > > they come to me.
> > > Â
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > tronbros@ writes:
> > >
> > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > > tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves
> > > it.
> > >
> >
>

>
> I saw that but no details or price.......
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:06 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D rackmount
> 
> 
> 
> It is right on the Mellotron home page...
> 
> *We are also working on a rack version of the digital Mellotron, scheduled release winter 2010.*
> 
> Best, Dan
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > Charles,
> >
> > Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn't see it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> >
> >
> >
> > There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > > > they come to me.
> > > > Â
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > tronbros@ writes:
> > > >
> > > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > > > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>

> Charles,

> 

> Where did you find the info on the rackmount?  I searched but didn't see it.

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Gary

> 

> 

> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM

> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

> 

> 

> 

> There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.

> 

> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:

> >

> > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)

> >

> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:

> > >

> > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>

> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D

> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I

> > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,

> > > they come to me.

> > > Â

> > >

> > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > > tronbros@ writes:

> > >

> > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in

> > > tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves

> > > it.

> > >

> >

>

>
> And after that they did this:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdFAIUM12M
> 
> --- On Sat, 4/12/10, Daniel <dan_miso@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Daniel <dan_miso@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D rackmount
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, 4 December, 2010, 8:06 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       It is right on the Mellotron home page...
> 
> 
> 
> *We are also working on a rack version of the digital Mellotron, scheduled release winter 2010.*
> 
> 
> 
> Best, Dan
> 
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Charles,
> 
> > 
> 
> > Where did you find the info on the rackmount?  I searched but didn't see it.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Thanks,
> 
> > 
> 
> > Gary
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> 
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> 
> > >
> 
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> 
> > > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> 
> > > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > Â
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> 
> > > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> 
> > > > they come to me.
> 
> > > > Â
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> 
> > > > tronbros@ writes:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> 
> > > > tow at every gig.  That's dedication.......and he loves
> 
> > > > it.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > >
> 
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 4:55
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


 


I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related


Mark

>
> 
> 'a working version'... bloody hell.. I know this is old hat but there's no need for that really. As with the bit about having the only genuine masters. Can't We All Just Get Along? etc...
> 
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: kinchmusic@...
> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 03:11:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
> 
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>     
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>       
>       
> Yes. 
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> 
>  
> 
> 
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Andy K
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> 
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> 
> Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 4:55
> 
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 3:11 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


  
    
                  

Yes. 
 
I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
 
Took delivery 2 days ago.
 
Andy K











-----Original Message-----
From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 4:55
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


  


I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related


Mark

>
> Wow!  I could hear the difference immediately!  The MKVI sounds clearly superior.  I think Marcus sounds a bit arrogant in his preamble.  Notice his eyes shifting when he makes his ludicrous statements? 
> 
> just my humble 2 cents (taking devaluation into consideration)
> 
> fritz
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 3:11 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> Yes. 
>  
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
>  
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
>  
> Andy K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 4:55
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> 
> 
> Mark
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:13
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


 



In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and 
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks.  It will almost certainly out 
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.  
Fire away…. J
 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D

 
  


I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
< /div>
 

Mark

From:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]  On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31,  2011 8:56 PM
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000  D

 
 
 
 
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the  difference between 
the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the  list has been 
tempted?
 

 

 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related) <  /div>  
 

 
Mark

From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To:  newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 1  Sep 2011 17:13
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


 
 
 
 
 
In a live  or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially 
after the reverb  and 
other  processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks.  It will 
almost  certainly out 
sell the  tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what 
it sounds  like.  
Fire away….  J
 
 
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [_mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) ]  On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31,  2011 8:56 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


 

 
 
 
 
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the  difference between 
the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the  list has been 
tempted?

 


 


 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related) 
<  /div>  
 


 
Mark

> I won't. It's the best of the lot. I'd love to have one just to have. It's not a Mellotron, but it has cool sounds in it, and lots of them. It has Mellotron sounds and Chamberlin sounds. It had friendly software and it does cool stuff. It isn't a Mellotron but it does as good an imitation of one as you're likely to find anywhere.
>  
> If you have both you're all the better for it. I was thinking of buying one and sometime soon I might. I am fortunate because I have a real M4000 Mellotron and I love playing it and having others play and record it. I also have acquired a real Chamberlin M1.
>  
> Frank
>  
> In a message dated 9/1/2011 12:13:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
>  
> In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
> 
> other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks.  It will almost certainly out
> 
> sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like. 
> 
> Fire away…. J
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
> 
>  
> 
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> 
> < /div>
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>

From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56  PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D

 
 
 
 
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the  difference between 
the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on  the list has been 
tempted?
 

 

 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related) <  /div>  
 

 
Mark

>
> 
> OK. But how does it really sound?
> 
> Well, if we are comparing a well engineered and adjusted M400 (which I'm lucky enough to own thanks to John and Martin) with Markus' digital equivalent, guess what? the tape based machine wins, no question in my book. The overall sound of the 400 has far more "grunt" than its digital cousin.
> BUT. I love my m400 so much I don't want to have to move it... ever! (that is until I eventually move house, whenever that will be). Even if I wanted to move it now, I can't ,due to where it is and the fact I would be trying to shift it on my own, with my dodgy back and all!
> The fact is, and it's no use denying it. Markus has done a terrific job of building his creation. The attention to detail and sheer quality of the workmanship is of a very high standard.
> OK, so people say why not just use computer software to create the sound? After all that's surely what the instrument is anyway. True, but I think our love affair with the tron has always be more than just the "sound". Like me, I bet most of us here would go down to the front of the stage at concerts just to see what this curious white box was. I have to say I'm blown away with the look of the Digital Mellotron (or whatever label you want to give it).
> Also, it gives me instant access to 100 Mellotron M1/Mk2/300/400/Chamberlain sounds. Any 2 can be stored together and mixed accordingly. I can have one sound either side of the stereo mix. I can move the attack of the start of the sound backwards and forwards in relation to the "virtual" head. I can control how fast the "tape" returns, so if you take your finger off while holding a chord, if you put it straight back on again the note starts midway along the "tape" instead of going back to the beginning. And of course the samples are full bandwidth 24 bit uncompressed, unlike the Memotron which was very compressed to these ears. No looping by the way!
> I was lucky enough to sell my Memotron just in time to transfer what I received for that accross to Markus who wanted payment in full straight away. Thankfully, he honoured the original price, rather  than coming back to me for more cash as the price has gone up recently. Needless to say I've had to wait a very long time for him to develop the 100 sounds, which IMO was well worth the wait.
> In an ideal world, I would have had the space and the cash to buy an M4000 from John and Martin, but I would still have had the transportation problem.
> The only issues I have with Markus, are mainly concerned with the name. Even when I ordered it and discussed the order with him, I always referred to it as a Digital Mellotron, even here I refuse to call it an M4000D or whatever it's called.
> I struggled long and hard over whether the decision to buy it was the right one, just in case I upset anyone on this list. But I'm pleased I bought it. It fulfils a specific requirement I have.
> What I have for the (at the time) reasonable price I paid was very good value, and if anyone has a problem with that, they should get over it!
> I still love my 400 to bits. I  just want to keep it that way.
> Thanks for listening.
> 
> Andy K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Brumm <gabru@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:13
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and 
> other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks.  It will almost certainly out 
> sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.  
> Fire away…. J
>  
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
> 
>  
>   
> 
> 
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> < /div>
>  
> 
> Mark
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 12:13 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D


  
    
                  

In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and 
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks.  It will almost certainly out 
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.  
Fire away…. J
 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D

 
  


I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
< /div>
 

Mark

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D



How does yours sound, Gary?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net<mailto:gabru@comsec.net>> wrote:

In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks.  It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away.... :)


--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john  barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]  M4000 D

 
 
 
How does yours sound, Gary? 
 
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <_gabru@comsec.net_ 
(mailto:gabru@comsec.net) > wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
In  a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially 
after the  reverb and  
other processing that is commonly used  on Mellotron tracks.  It will 
almost certainly out  
sell the tape machines but most on  this list will hate it no matter what 
it sounds like.   
Fire away…. J 
 
 








--  
 
john  barrick
 

 
*Leo got it right the first  time*
 
*then he added a second  pickup and got it righter*

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:57  PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D

 
 
 
 
Why from me? I  love the real ones, but I'd take a fake one too.
 

 
Frank
 

 
 
In a message  dated 9/1/2011 6:41:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_gabru@comsec.net_ (mailto:gabru@comsec.net)   writes:

 
 
The last  time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine.  Back 
then  they were borrowed or rented since  
(to address  your jab J) I don’t own one.  Now that  may not allow me to 
have an opinion on this group but  
I have  recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious 
amounts of  time listening to Genesis,  
King  Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn 
last  night! (US commercial for those abroad).   
Seriously , I have  run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to 
get the sound I wanted  like the albums  
I listened  to.  Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here 
but I  wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines  
in any  way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that 
response from  Frank! J 
 
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   _[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]_ 
(mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com])   On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01,  2011 10:00 AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D

 
 
 
How does yours sound,  Gary? 
 
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13  AM, Gary Brumm <_gabru@comsec.net_ 
(mailto:gabru@comsec.net) >  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
In a live or studio mix you would  never hear the difference especially 
after the reverb and  
other processing that is commonly  used on Mellotron tracks.  It will 
almost certainly out  
sell the tape machines but most on  this list will hate it no matter what 
it sounds like.   
Fire away…. J





--  
 
john  barrick
 
*Leo got it  right the first time*
 
*then he  added a second pickup and got it righter*

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:34 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D



We like to keep you on your toes, Gary [cid:image001.png@01CC68DF.9196DA00]

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net<mailto:gabru@comsec.net>> wrote:

The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70's) it sounded fine.  Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab :)) I don't own one.  Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live.....and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to.  Sorry if my ears aren't as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn't trying to put down the tape machines
in any way....I think you know that.....actually I was expecting that response from Frank! :)

--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

�

Here's my volley back..

Rarely do I use ANY processing on my tron with the exception of EQ and compression, so I am uncommon that way. No verb, no delay etc.� Once I rebuild my 122 I'll dump it through that and the nice hot output of the tron will overdrive the Leslie nicely.

>
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference
> between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list
> has been tempted?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related>
> Mark
>

>  
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
>  
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
>  
> Andy K

> 
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> 
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
> 
> Andy K

>
> How difficult is it to add new voices?
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
> 
> Andy K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: feline1973 <feline1@...<mailto:feline1@...>>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> /is jealous/
> 
> Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> I'm number 90, I think...
> I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>> wrote:
> >
> > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> >
> > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> >
> > Andy K
>

On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

> The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in  
> getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of  
> the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron  
> samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.  
> (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24  
> bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.  
> Does anyone know ?
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...>  
> wrote:
> >
> > How difficult is it to add new voices?
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> >
> >
> > I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> > I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice  
> count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he  
> wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all  
> fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice  
> count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full  
> set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> > Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
> >
> > Andy K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: feline1973 <feline1@...<mailto:feline1@...>>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> >>
> > Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> >
> > /is jealous/
> >
> > Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> > I'm number 90, I think...
> > I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup 
> %40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>>  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new  
> album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> > >
> > > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> > >
> > > Andy K
> >
>
>

> 
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> 
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
> 
> Andy K

>
> No need to convert one note at a time unless you're trying to avoid  
> interacting with your spouse. Tons of good quality batch converters  
> out there.
> 
> Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of  
> iPhonekstan.
> 
> fritzdoddy
> 
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> 
> > The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in  
> > getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of  
> > the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron  
> > samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.  
> > (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24  
> > bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.  
> > Does anyone know ?
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@>  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How difficult is it to add new voices?
> > >
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > >
> > > I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> > > I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice  
> > count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he  
> > wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all  
> > fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice  
> > count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full  
> > set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> > > Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
> > >
> > > Andy K
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: feline1973 <feline1@<mailto:feline1@>>
> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > >>
> > > Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > > /is jealous/
> > >
> > > Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> > > I'm number 90, I think...
> > > I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup 
> > %40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>>  
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new  
> > album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> > > >
> > > > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> > > >
> > > > Andy K
> > >
> >
> >
>

>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

>
> But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@> wrote:
> >
> > No need to convert one note at a time unless you're trying to avoid  
> > interacting with your spouse. Tons of good quality batch converters  
> > out there.
> > 
> > Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of  
> > iPhonekstan.
> > 
> > fritzdoddy
> > 
> > On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote:
> > 
> > > The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in  
> > > getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of  
> > > the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron  
> > > samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.  
> > > (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24  
> > > bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.  
> > > Does anyone know ?

>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

>
> No need to convert one note at a time unless you're trying to avoid  
> interacting with your spouse. Tons of good quality batch converters  
> out there.
> 
> Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of  
> iPhonekstan.
> 
> fritzdoddy
> 
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> 
> > The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in  
> > getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of  
> > the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron  
> > samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.  
> > (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24  
> > bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.  
> > Does anyone know ?
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@>  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How difficult is it to add new voices?
> > >
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > >
> > > I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> > > I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice  
> > count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he  
> > wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all  
> > fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice  
> > count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full  
> > set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> > > Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
> > >
> > > Andy K
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: feline1973 <feline1@<mailto:feline1@>>;
> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > >>
> > > Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > > /is jealous/
> > >
> > > Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> > > I'm number 90, I think...
> > > I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup 
> > %40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>>;  
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new  
> > album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> > > >
> > > > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> > > >
> > > > Andy K
> > >
> >
> >
>

>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

>
> 
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
> 
> Andy K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I missed the sampling rate on first read.  22.05 Fs is unacceptable.  I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency.  Remember the old Roland samplers?  They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> 
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> > 
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I missed the sampling rate on first read.  22.05 Fs is unacceptable.  I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency.  Remember the old Roland samplers?  They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> 
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> > 
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>

>
> 
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
> 
> Andy K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> 
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> > 
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> 
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> > 
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>

>
>
> Clay.
> All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch
> shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had
> the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some
> but not all.
> Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices,
> lower register and higher, so you get everything!
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F#
> ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have
> recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
>
> The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need
> them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
>
> Clay
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>>
>> Andy K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
>> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd
>> rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency.
>> Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if
>> they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the
>> oversampling filters.
>>
>>
>> fritz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
>> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about
>> 20
>> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I
>> would think
>> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were
>> sampled at
>> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>> > >
>> > > Bernie
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > john barrick
>> >
>> > *Leo got it right the first time*
>> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd
>> rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency.
>> Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if
>> they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the
>> oversampling filters.
>>
>>
>> fritz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
>> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about
>> 20
>> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I
>> would think
>> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were
>> sampled at
>> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>> > >
>> > > Bernie
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > john barrick
>> >
>> > *Leo got it right the first time*
>> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> 
> Clay.
> All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some but not all.
> Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices, lower register and higher, so you get everything!
>  
> Andy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
>  
> Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F# ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
> 
> The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
> 
> Clay 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
> > 
> > Andy K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> > 
> > 
> > fritz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> > 
> > Bernie
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > > >
> > > > Bernie
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > john barrick
> > > 
> > > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> > 
> > 
> > fritz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> > 
> > Bernie
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > > >
> > > > Bernie
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > john barrick
> > > 
> > > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> > >
> >
> 
>

>
> 
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
> 
> Andy K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> 
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> > 
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
> 
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> > 
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>

> Hi Hessel.
>  
> Yes!
>  
> Is there a more sombre sound in the entire library?  No!
>  
> A
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hessel Herder <hessel@soundscape-worldwide.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 20:01
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> 
>  
> Hi Andy
> 
> Is the M300 string B program  the solo violin?
> 
> Cheers,H
> 
> 
> Op 5 sep. 2011 om 19:46 heeft Andy kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Clay.
>> All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some but not all.
>> Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices, lower register and higher, so you get everything!
>>  
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
>> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>> 
>>  
>> Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F# ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
>> 
>> The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
>> 
>> Clay 
>> 
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>> > 
>> > Andy K
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
>> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
>> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > fritz
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tron400 <tron400@...>
>> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
>> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>> > 
>> > Bernie
>> > 
>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
>> > > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>> > > 
>> > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > **
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
>> > > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
>> > > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>> > > >
>> > > > Bernie
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > john barrick
>> > > 
>> > > *Leo got it right the first time*
>> > > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>> > >
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > fritz
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tron400 <tron400@...>
>> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
>> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>> > 
>> > Bernie
>> > 
>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
>> > > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>> > > 
>> > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > **
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
>> > > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
>> > > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>> > > >
>> > > > Bernie
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > john barrick
>> > > 
>> > > *Leo got it right the first time*
>> > > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>> > >
>> >
>> 
> 
>