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Quantizer

2000-03-16 by Tkacs, Ken

Maybe an adjustable quantizer module is a job for a PIC processor...?

Quantizer

2000-03-16 by Tkacs, Ken

BTW, another use for a quantizer is to get those "bleepy-bloopy computer"
sounds, like what you get from noise into a sample & hold, but actually in
tune, when you slide the quantizer in between them.

(Speaking of bleepy-bloopy computer sounds, anybody got a good copy of Gil
Melle's Andromeda Strain soundtrack...?)

Quantizer

2005-01-15 by Jeremy

Hi all,

Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in 
MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge 
quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
Cheers for any help.

 - Jeremy

Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-16 by Richard Brewster

Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so happens 
I was just using it today.

http://www.blacet.com/MW.html

It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another 
quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page above.  Larry 
Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually) available 
in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front Panel 
Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great expander for 
the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.

http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html

http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm

-Richard Brewster

Jeremy wrote:
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>Hi all,
>
>Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in 
>MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge 
>quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>Cheers for any help.
>
> - Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-16 by Tobias Machine Head

Here's a quantizer in MOTM format. Although it has white a metalic/white
panel. It's also a 1/4 inch banana combo.

http://www.analogic-acs.com/quantizer.html

Cheers!
Tobias Enhus
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> 
> For quantizing applications the wavetable output is used as a control
> voltage.  In this mode the Miniwave is set to the 0-10V scale, which
> takes positive input voltages and puts out positive voltages.  A
> quantizer PROM has a table that translates the incoming voltage to the
> nearest quantized value, assuming a 1V/octave control voltage.  The
> standard Blacet PROM has 16 quantized scales, and the Quantizer PROM
> offers 256.  http://stretta.com/~matthew/resources/waveproms/index.html
> (Too bad these are not currently available.)
> 
> -Richard Brewster
> 
> 
> Jeff Laity wrote:
> 
>> When you do this, are you using the PCM sample wave playback as an
>> audio source or as a control voltage?
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:
>> 
>>     Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so
>>     happens
>>     I was just using it today.
>> 
>>     http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
>> 
>>     It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another
>>     quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page above.  Larry
>>     Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually)
>>     available
>>     in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front Panel
>>     Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great
>>     expander for
>>     the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
>> 
>>     http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
>> 
>>     http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>> 
>>     -Richard Brewster
>> 
>>     Jeremy wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in
>>> MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge
>>> quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>>> Cheers for any help.
>>> 
>>> - Jeremy
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-16 by Jeff Laity

When you do this, are you using the PCM sample wave playback as an 
audio source or as a control voltage?
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On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:

> Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so happens
>  I was just using it today.
>
> http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
>
>  It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another
>  quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page above.  Larry
>  Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually) available
>  in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front Panel
>  Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great expander 
> for
>  the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
>
> http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
>
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>
>  -Richard Brewster
>
>  Jeremy wrote:
>
>  >Hi all,
>  >
>  >Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in
>  >MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge
>  >quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>  >Cheers for any help.
>  >
>  > - Jeremy
>  >
>

Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-16 by Richard Brewster

For quantizing applications the wavetable output is used as a control 
voltage.  In this mode the Miniwave is set to the 0-10V scale, which 
takes positive input voltages and puts out positive voltages.  A 
quantizer PROM has a table that translates the incoming voltage to the 
nearest quantized value, assuming a 1V/octave control voltage.  The 
standard Blacet PROM has 16 quantized scales, and the Quantizer PROM 
offers 256.  http://stretta.com/~matthew/resources/waveproms/index.html  
(Too bad these are not currently available.)

-Richard Brewster


Jeff Laity wrote:
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> When you do this, are you using the PCM sample wave playback as an 
> audio source or as a control voltage?
>
> On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:
>
>     Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so
>     happens
>     I was just using it today.
>
>     http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
>
>     It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another
>     quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page above.  Larry
>     Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually)
>     available
>     in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front Panel
>     Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great
>     expander for
>     the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
>
>     http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
>
>     http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>
>     -Richard Brewster
>
>     Jeremy wrote:
>
>     >Hi all,
>     >
>     >Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in
>     >MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge
>     >quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>     >Cheers for any help.
>     >
>     > - Jeremy
>     >
>

Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-17 by Richard Brewster

Anyone on the list have one of these and can give us impressions?  I 
seem to remember some discussion about it a while back.

-Richard Brewster

Tobias Machine Head wrote:
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>Here's a quantizer in MOTM format. Although it has white a metalic/white
>panel. It's also a 1/4 inch banana combo.
>
>http://www.analogic-acs.com/quantizer.html
>
>Cheers!
>Tobias Enhus
>
>
>
>  
>
>>For quantizing applications the wavetable output is used as a control
>>voltage.  In this mode the Miniwave is set to the 0-10V scale, which
>>takes positive input voltages and puts out positive voltages.  A
>>quantizer PROM has a table that translates the incoming voltage to the
>>nearest quantized value, assuming a 1V/octave control voltage.  The
>>standard Blacet PROM has 16 quantized scales, and the Quantizer PROM
>>offers 256.  http://stretta.com/~matthew/resources/waveproms/index.html
>>(Too bad these are not currently available.)
>>
>>-Richard Brewster
>>
>>
>>Jeff Laity wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>When you do this, are you using the PCM sample wave playback as an
>>>audio source or as a control voltage?
>>>
>>>On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:
>>>
>>>    Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so
>>>    happens
>>>    I was just using it today.
>>>
>>>    http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
>>>
>>>    It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another
>>>    quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page above.  Larry
>>>    Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually)
>>>    available
>>>    in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front Panel
>>>    Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great
>>>    expander for
>>>    the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
>>>
>>>    http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
>>>
>>>    http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>>>
>>>    -Richard Brewster
>>>
>>>    Jeremy wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in
>>>>MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge
>>>>quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>>>>Cheers for any help.
>>>>
>>>>- Jeremy
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
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RE: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-17 by alt-mode

I contacted the analogic-acs folks a few weeks ago when this popped up on AH
since there are no quantizers available in an assembled form for 1/4"
modulars at the moment (cough) - a situation that I hope will change this
year.  Unfortunately, they are not able to take any orders at this time -
they said perhaps by March.  Also, they were unwilling to change the banana
jacks for 1/4" jacks.  There are certainly spacing issues but I couldn't get
them to provide any electrical reason.
 
    Eric 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Brewster [mailto:pugix@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:35 PM
To: Tobias Machine Head
Cc: Jeff Laity; MOTM List
Subject: Re: [motm] Quantizer


Anyone on the list have one of these and can give us impressions?  I 
seem to remember some discussion about it a while back.

-Richard Brewster

Tobias Machine Head wrote:

>Here's a quantizer in MOTM format. Although it has white a metalic/white
>panel. It's also a 1/4 inch banana combo.
>
>http://www.analogic-acs.com/quantizer.html
>
>Cheers!
>Tobias Enhus
>
>
>
>  
>
>>For quantizing applications the wavetable output is used as a control
>>voltage.  In this mode the Miniwave is set to the 0-10V scale, which
>>takes positive input voltages and puts out positive voltages.  A
>>quantizer PROM has a table that translates the incoming voltage to the
>>nearest quantized value, assuming a 1V/octave control voltage.  The
>>standard Blacet PROM has 16 quantized scales, and the Quantizer PROM
>>offers 256.  http://stretta.com/~matthew/resources/waveproms/index.html
>>(Too bad these are not currently available.)
>>
>>-Richard Brewster
>>
>>
>>Jeff Laity wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>When you do this, are you using the PCM sample wave playback as an
>>>audio source or as a control voltage?
>>>
>>>On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:
>>>
>>>    Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so
>>>    happens
>>>    I was just using it today.
>>>
>>>    http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
>>>
>>>    It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another
>>>    quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page above.  Larry
>>>    Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually)
>>>    available
>>>    in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front Panel
>>>    Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great
>>>    expander for
>>>    the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
>>>
>>>    http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
>>>
>>>    http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>>>
>>>    -Richard Brewster
>>>
>>>    Jeremy wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in
>>>>MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge
>>>>quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>>>>Cheers for any help.
>>>>
>>>>- Jeremy
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
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Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-17 by Marc Bareille

Hi ,

> I contacted the analogic-acs folks a few weeks ago when this popped up 
> on AH since there are no quantizers available in an assembled form for 
> 1/4" modulars at the moment (cough) - a situation that I hope will 
> change this year.
Yes for sure :)

The new module i am designing ( final pcb prototype is under assembly ) 
is a CV-Quantizer/Wavetable in MOTM format... BUT unlike all other 
Quabtizer systems , my module , named "Quantix-8"  is fitted with 64KB 
of SRAM intead of the eprom. A microcontroler manage the STAM for 
load/save operation through MIDI ... This allow a super simple and fast
edition or changes on table .64KB mean 2 matrixes od 16x16 
waveforms/scales in 256samples per wave...
To control it  you can use CV ( bank/wave select) or MIDI messages ( 
controler/program changes) or even logic banana inputs ( trig mode).

Additionnal feature for free :the Quantix8 can work as a MIDI to CV 
interface ( a 8 bit thing..)

This module is no more no less than an eprom emulator editable by MIDI 
and as this, it can be used to replace the eprom on many classic 
quantizers.
The input of the Quantix8 is modular : so you can plug there many kind 
of specialised inputs pcbs ( piggy back assembly)

-a fast ADC with zero detector ( for quantizer/wavetable )
-a counter/divider drive it by pulses with a hi speed VCO ( wavetable)
-an classic ADC with external convert logic for CV quantize

I am also designing a 16 bits version to add to the excellent ACS 
quantizer. It will be very cool to edit new  scales/waveforms on PC and 
then download them to the Quantizer to try them...

Panels, schems pcbs are already designed and will be released at 
http://m.bareille/free.fr very soon (+/-1 week ) ... More to come ...

Have fun!


Cheers,

Marc B.


   Unfortunately, they are not able to take any orders
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> at this time - they said perhaps by March.  Also, they were unwilling to 
> change the banana jacks for 1/4" jacks.  There are certainly spacing 
> issues but I couldn't get them to provide any electrical reason.
>  
>     Eric
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Richard Brewster [mailto:pugix@...]
>     *Sent:* Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:35 PM
>     *To:* Tobias Machine Head
>     *Cc:* Jeff Laity; MOTM List
>     *Subject:* Re: [motm] Quantizer
> 
>     Anyone on the list have one of these and can give us impressions?  I
>     seem to remember some discussion about it a while back.
> 
>     -Richard Brewster
> 
>     Tobias Machine Head wrote:
> 
>      >Here's a quantizer in MOTM format. Although it has white a
>     metalic/white
>      >panel. It's also a 1/4 inch banana combo.
>      >
>      >http://www.analogic-acs.com/quantizer.html
>      >
>      >Cheers!
>      >Tobias Enhus
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > 
>      >
>      >>For quantizing applications the wavetable output is used as a control
>      >>voltage.  In this mode the Miniwave is set to the 0-10V scale, which
>      >>takes positive input voltages and puts out positive voltages.  A
>      >>quantizer PROM has a table that translates the incoming voltage
>     to the
>      >>nearest quantized value, assuming a 1V/octave control voltage.  The
>      >>standard Blacet PROM has 16 quantized scales, and the Quantizer PROM
>      >>offers 256. 
>     http://stretta.com/~matthew/resources/waveproms/index.html
>      >>(Too bad these are not currently available.)
>      >>
>      >>-Richard Brewster
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>Jeff Laity wrote:
>      >>
>      >>   
>      >>
>      >>>When you do this, are you using the PCM sample wave playback as an
>      >>>audio source or as a control voltage?
>      >>>
>      >>>On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>>    Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a quantizer.  It so
>      >>>    happens
>      >>>    I was just using it today.
>      >>>
>      >>>    http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
>      >>>
>      >>>    It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM and there is another
>      >>>    quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on the page
>     above.  Larry
>      >>>    Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different ones, actually)
>      >>>    available
>      >>>    in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can also use Front
>     Panel
>      >>>    Express to make a panel for it.  Dave Hylander has a great
>      >>>    expander for
>      >>>    the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
>      >>>
>      >>>    http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
>      >>>
>      >>>    http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>      >>>
>      >>>    -Richard Brewster
>      >>>
>      >>>    Jeremy wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>>     
>      >>>
>      >>>>Hi all,
>      >>>>
>      >>>>Just wondering if there's an analog voltage quantizer out there in
>      >>>>MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been using a Serge
>      >>>>quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing gets annoying.
>      >>>>Cheers for any help.
>      >>>>
>      >>>>- Jeremy
>      >>>>
>      >>>>       
>      >>>>
>      >>
>      >>
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Re: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-17 by John Laudicina

--- Tobias Machine Head <tobias@...>
wrote:

> Here's a quantizer in MOTM format. Although it has
> white a metalic/white
> panel. It's also a 1/4 inch banana combo.
> 
> http://www.analogic-acs.com/quantizer.html
> 
> Cheers!
> Tobias Enhus
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > For quantizing applications the wavetable output
> is used as a control
> > voltage.  In this mode the Miniwave is set to the
> 0-10V scale, which
> > takes positive input voltages and puts out
> positive voltages.  A
> > quantizer PROM has a table that translates the
> incoming voltage to the
> > nearest quantized value, assuming a 1V/octave
> control voltage.  The
> > standard Blacet PROM has 16 quantized scales, and
> the Quantizer PROM
> > offers 256. 
>
http://stretta.com/~matthew/resources/waveproms/index.html
> > (Too bad these are not currently available.)
> > 
> > -Richard Brewster
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff Laity wrote:
> > 
> >> When you do this, are you using the PCM sample
> wave playback as an
> >> audio source or as a control voltage?
> >> 
> >> On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Richard Brewster
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>     Many of us use the Wiard/Blacet Miniwave as a
> quantizer.  It so
> >>     happens
> >>     I was just using it today.
> >> 
> >>     http://www.blacet.com/MW.html
> >> 
> >>     It comes with a quantizer bank in the PROM
> and there is another
> >>     quantizer PROM available.  Check the links on
> the page above.  Larry
> >>     Hendry has a Stooge panel (several different
> ones, actually)
> >>     available
> >>     in MOTM format for the Miniwave, and you can
> also use Front Panel
> >>     Express to make a panel for it.  Dave
> Hylander has a great
> >>     expander for
> >>     the Minwave that holds 10 EPROMs.
> >> 
> >>     http://www.hylander.com/miniwave.html
> >> 
> >>     http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
> >> 
> >>     -Richard Brewster
> >> 
> >>     Jeremy wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> 
> >>> Just wondering if there's an analog voltage
> quantizer out there in
> >>> MOTM format? Or something similar? I've been
> using a Serge
> >>> quantizer but the whole banana + 1/4" jack thing
> gets annoying.
> >>> Cheers for any help.
> >>> 
> >>> - Jeremy
> >>> 
> >> 
Excuse my ignorance, why couldnt you take the banana
jacks out and put in their place the 1/4 inch motm
jacks that paul uses?  I dont understand the banana
plug ... is there a ground and a hot wire with them? 
If there is then the 1/4 inch jack should work...  am
I missing something?

John in Miami
> 



		
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RE: [motm] Quantizer

2005-01-17 by alt-mode

John,
 
That was my feeling as well but there seems to be a jack spacing issue with
the Analogics-acs quantizer that would make it mechanically difficult.
 
    Eric
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Laudicina [mailto:gion2archery@...] 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:17 AM
To: Tobias Machine Head
Cc: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Quantizer


> >> 
Excuse my ignorance, why couldnt you take the banana
jacks out and put in their place the 1/4 inch motm
jacks that paul uses?  I dont understand the banana
plug ... is there a ground and a hot wire with them? 
If there is then the 1/4 inch jack should work...  am
I missing something?

John in Miami

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