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RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by Tony Karavidas

Hi all,

By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg

What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with no
numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a sheet metal
shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and pretend there are
knobs and LEDs on it)

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg

I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.

Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film artwork
soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.

Tony

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by Tkacs, Ken

I like the version with numbers.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...] 
Sent: Monday, 08 December, 2003 4:53 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

Hi all,

By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg

What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with
no
numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a sheet
metal
shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and pretend there
are
knobs and LEDs on it)

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg

I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.

Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film
artwork
soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.

Tony

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by John Loffink

The numbers don't make a lot of sense unless they're calibrated, even
roughly, to the frequency shift of the unit at each position.  Look at the
Bode shifter for reference.  

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:53 PM
> Hi all,
> 
> By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
> 
> What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with no
> numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
> Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a sheet
> metal
> shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and pretend there
> are
> knobs and LEDs on it)
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg
> 
> I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.
> 
> Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film artwork
> soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.
> 
> Tony
> 
>

Re: Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by gooboworks

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
> 
> What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture 
with no
> numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around 
the
> Initial shift knob?  


I like the one with numbers.   

Andy

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by Mark

If you are going to add numbers, they should go from zero to 10 (or 
whatever voltage its effect approximates), not -5 to +5.  A negative 
amount of shift makes absolutely no sense, based on what I've read so 
far.

Also, does the Fine Shift approach zero towards the center of its 
rotation??  If is does you might want to add a "-" and "+" to each 
side, and perhaps a "0" in the middle to reflect that.  If not, then 
I think there should be some indication that fully counter-clockwise 
is the least offset -- perhaps a "0" on the left side and and 
whatever voltage it approximates on the right side.

My understanding of module's function is that it shifts by greater 
exponential frequencies as the summed voltage (CV In, Initial Fine, 
Fine Shift) increases, and that a negaative voltage sum would be 
ignored.  Otoh, if you have it so that negative voltages actually 
swap the Up and Down outputs, then you have something unique :)

On 12/8/03, Tony Karavidas put forth:
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>Hi all,
>
>By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
>
>What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with no
>numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
>Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a sheet metal
>shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and pretend there are
>knobs and LEDs on it)
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg
>
>I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.
>
>Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film artwork
>soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.
>
>Tony

Re: Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by mate_stubb

Actually, one of the selling points of Tony's unit is that it DOES 
truly shift through zero.

Moe

> A negative amount of shift makes absolutely no sense, based on 
> what I've read so far.

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by Scott Juskiw

>What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with no
>numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
>Initial shift knob?

I prefer the layout with numbers.

Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by gareII@aol.com

Ditto
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> 
> 
> I like the version with numbers.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...] 
> Sent: Monday, 08 December, 2003 4:53 PM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
> 
> What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with
> no
> numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
> Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a sheet
> metal
> shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and pretend there
> are
> knobs and LEDs on it)
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg
> 
> I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.
> 
> Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film
> artwork
> soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by Dave Hylander

Numbers please.

At 01:53 PM 12/8/2003 -0800, Tony Karavidas wrote:
>Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film artwork
>soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.

-dave-

http://www.hylander.com

Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-08 by Joe Pavone

numbers  YES

...jp




Tony Karavidas wrote:
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>Hi all,
>
>By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
>
>What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with no
>numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around the
>Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a sheet metal
>shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and pretend there are
>knobs and LEDs on it)
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg
>
>I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.
>
>Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film artwork
>soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.
>
>Tony
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
>
>  
>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by Tony Karavidas

Hi John,

That's why I didn't want numbers in the first place, BUT, people seem to
like them for documentation reasons. However, since I don't like numbers on
the little knobs, I wonder how useful it is to have numbers on the big knob.
If people like just because of the 'look' then so be it.

One interesting thing about this FS, is the Shift amt is uP controlled, and
I can scale that knob to anything I want. I can even adjust the curve of the
knob, so if some people don't like the range/response or have a different
need, it is possible to change it. Having fixed calibrated numbers would
prevent that.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Loffink [mailto:jloffink@...] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:19 PM
To: tony@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

The numbers don't make a lot of sense unless they're calibrated, even
roughly, to the frequency shift of the unit at each position.  Look at the
Bode shifter for reference.  

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:53 PM Hi all,
> 
> By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
> 
> What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture 
> with no numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers 
> around the Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided 
> to a sheet metal shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination 
> and pretend there are knobs and LEDs on it)
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg
> 
> I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.
> 
> Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film 
> artwork soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.
> 
> Tony
> 
>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by Tony Karavidas

0 to 10 wouldn't make sense because it doesn't communicate the ability of
the shifter to 'invert' or shift through zero. I've updated the info on the
site recently to indicate it's a through zero FS.

Yes, the Fine Shift approaches zero towards the center of its rotation. I'll
look into text for that knob too.

The CV is positive only.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:yahoogroups@...] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:40 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Cc: tony@...
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question


If you are going to add numbers, they should go from zero to 10 (or whatever
voltage its effect approximates), not -5 to +5.  A negative amount of shift
makes absolutely no sense, based on what I've read so far.

Also, does the Fine Shift approach zero towards the center of its rotation??
If is does you might want to add a "-" and "+" to each side, and perhaps a
"0" in the middle to reflect that.  If not, then I think there should be
some indication that fully counter-clockwise is the least offset -- perhaps
a "0" on the left side and and whatever voltage it approximates on the right
side.

My understanding of module's function is that it shifts by greater
exponential frequencies as the summed voltage (CV In, Initial Fine, Fine
Shift) increases, and that a negaative voltage sum would be ignored.  Otoh,
if you have it so that negative voltages actually swap the Up and Down
outputs, then you have something unique :)

On 12/8/03, Tony Karavidas put forth:
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>Hi all,
>
>By now I think most of you (that care) have seen this picture:
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_Proto4c.jpg
>
>What I'd like to know is do you like the look of the above picture with 
>no numbers, or would you prefer the one below with +/- numbers around 
>the Initial shift knob?  (this image is what would be provided to a 
>sheet metal shop for silkscreen purposes, so use your imagination and 
>pretend there are knobs and LEDs on it)
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers.jpg
>
>I don't want to put numbers on the small knobs, they get too crowded.
>
>Anyway the sheet metal is in production, and I need to supply film 
>artwork soon, so a fast reply would be appreciated.
>
>Tony

Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by groovyshaman@snet.net

[Although meaningless] the numbers look nice.
Maybe just a + and - on the Fine Shift control.

George
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...>
To: "'Mark'" <yahoogroups@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question


> 0 to 10 wouldn't make sense because it doesn't communicate the ability
of
> the shifter to 'invert' or shift through zero. I've updated the info on
the
> site recently to indicate it's a through zero FS.
>
> Yes, the Fine Shift approaches zero towards the center of its rotation.
I'll
> look into text for that knob too.
>
> The CV is positive only.
>
> Tony
>
<snip>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by Tony Karavidas

Ok, here's another option. There are numbers on all pots, but any number
that would have been partially obscured has been removed.

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAll.jpg

What do you think of this? If you like this one the best so far, do you like
the different numbers removed depending on where they are, or would you like
the same numbers removed on all of the small pots?

Also, I had the fine shift pot with +1, +2, etc, and I really didn't like
it. (Although it looks OK on the big knob). If you really want to see it, I
can post that too.

Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: groovyshaman@... [mailto:groovyshaman@...] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:39 PM
To: tony@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

[Although meaningless] the numbers look nice.
Maybe just a + and - on the Fine Shift control.

George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...>
To: "'Mark'" <yahoogroups@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question


> 0 to 10 wouldn't make sense because it doesn't communicate the ability
of
> the shifter to 'invert' or shift through zero. I've updated the info 
> on
the
> site recently to indicate it's a through zero FS.
>
> Yes, the Fine Shift approaches zero towards the center of its rotation.
I'll
> look into text for that knob too.
>
> The CV is positive only.
>
> Tony
>
<snip>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by Tony Karavidas

Ok here's the one with "+" on the fine shift. I made the "+" a smaller font
size and that tightened it up a bit.

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAllBip.jpg

Now I'm not sure which one I like the best.

Let me know...
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:47 PM
To: 'groovyshaman@...'; 'motm@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

Ok, here's another option. There are numbers on all pots, but any number
that would have been partially obscured has been removed.

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAll.jpg

What do you think of this? If you like this one the best so far, do you like
the different numbers removed depending on where they are, or would you like
the same numbers removed on all of the small pots?

Also, I had the fine shift pot with +1, +2, etc, and I really didn't like
it. (Although it looks OK on the big knob). If you really want to see it, I
can post that too.

Tony
 

-----Original Message-----
From: groovyshaman@... [mailto:groovyshaman@...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:39 PM
To: tony@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

[Although meaningless] the numbers look nice.
Maybe just a + and - on the Fine Shift control.

George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...>
To: "'Mark'" <yahoogroups@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question


> 0 to 10 wouldn't make sense because it doesn't communicate the ability
of
> the shifter to 'invert' or shift through zero. I've updated the info 
> on
the
> site recently to indicate it's a through zero FS.
>
> Yes, the Fine Shift approaches zero towards the center of its rotation.
I'll
> look into text for that knob too.
>
> The CV is positive only.
>
> Tony
>
<snip>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by Scott Juskiw

Good grief, here we go with a bazillion opinions.

IMHO, leave the + signs off all the numbers, even for the Initial 
Shift (I think we can figure out that "8" means positive 8). Add 
numbers to the Fine Shift knob. For the other 6 knobs, either leave 
the numbers off entirely, or only use numbers that can be replicated 
the same on all six knobs (looks like this would only be numbers 
0,3,7,10).

Thanks for asking for our input Tony.


At 4:51 PM -0800 2003/12/08, Tony Karavidas wrote:
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>Ok here's the one with "+" on the fine shift. I made the "+" a smaller font
>size and that tightened it up a bit.
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAllBip.jpg
>
>Now I'm not sure which one I like the best.
>
>Let me know...
>Tony
>

Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by J. Larry Hendry

Tony,   That looks great.  Thanks for listening to your customer feedback
concerning the new layout, and for setting me straight that this is supposed
to be fun.  I remember saying that to someone else once.  So, it really
struck home.
Larry Hendry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Karavidas <tony@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question


Ok here's the one with "+" on the fine shift. I made the "+" a smaller font
size and that tightened it up a bit.

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAllBip.jpg

Now I'm not sure which one I like the best.

Let me know...
Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:47 PM
To: 'groovyshaman@...'; 'motm@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

Ok, here's another option. There are numbers on all pots, but any number
that would have been partially obscured has been removed.

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAll.jpg

What do you think of this? If you like this one the best so far, do you like
the different numbers removed depending on where they are, or would you like
the same numbers removed on all of the small pots?

Also, I had the fine shift pot with +1, +2, etc, and I really didn't like
it. (Although it looks OK on the big knob). If you really want to see it, I
can post that too.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: groovyshaman@... [mailto:groovyshaman@...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:39 PM
To: tony@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

[Although meaningless] the numbers look nice.
Maybe just a + and - on the Fine Shift control.

George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...>
To: "'Mark'" <yahoogroups@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question


> 0 to 10 wouldn't make sense because it doesn't communicate the ability
of
> the shifter to 'invert' or shift through zero. I've updated the info
> on
the
> site recently to indicate it's a through zero FS.
>
> Yes, the Fine Shift approaches zero towards the center of its rotation.
I'll
> look into text for that knob too.
>
> The CV is positive only.
>
> Tony
>
<snip>







Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

2003-12-09 by Tony Karavidas

OK, here are three more drawing with various options.

This one shows 0,3,7,10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost the +
signs:
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers037A.jpg 


This one has numbers only on the shift knobs (no + signs as well):
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF.jpg


This one shows 0 and 10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost the +
signs:

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF0A.jpg


Anything in that subdirectory is available for the final product. You people
vote for what you want...

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Juskiw [mailto:scott@...] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:38 PM
To: tony@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

Good grief, here we go with a bazillion opinions.

IMHO, leave the + signs off all the numbers, even for the Initial Shift (I
think we can figure out that "8" means positive 8). Add numbers to the Fine
Shift knob. For the other 6 knobs, either leave the numbers off entirely, or
only use numbers that can be replicated the same on all six knobs (looks
like this would only be numbers 0,3,7,10).

Thanks for asking for our input Tony.


At 4:51 PM -0800 2003/12/08, Tony Karavidas wrote:
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>Ok here's the one with "+" on the fine shift. I made the "+" a smaller 
>font size and that tightened it up a bit.
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAllBip.j
>pg
>
>Now I'm not sure which one I like the best.
>
>Let me know...
>Tony
>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

2003-12-09 by John Loffink

Second one, ...IF.jpg

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...]
> 
> OK, here are three more drawing with various options.
> 
> This one shows 0,3,7,10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost the
> +
> signs:
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers037A.jpg
> 
> 
> This one has numbers only on the shift knobs (no + signs as well):
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF.jpg
> 
> 
> This one shows 0 and 10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost the
> +
> signs:
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF0A.jpg
> 
> 
> Anything in that subdirectory is available for the final product. You
> people
> vote for what you want...
> 
> Tony
> 
>

RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

2003-12-09 by Scott Juskiw

>OK, here are three more drawing with various options.
>
>This one shows 0,3,7,10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost the +
>signs:
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers037A.jpg


My #1 choice (of all designs presented thus far).

>
>
>This one has numbers only on the shift knobs (no + signs as well):
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF.jpg

My #2 choice (of all designs presented thus far).

>
>
>This one shows 0 and 10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost the +
>signs:
>
>http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF0A.jpg

My #3 choice (of all designs presented thus far).

Re: Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

2003-12-09 by mate_stubb

IF or IF0A do it for me.

Moe
--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "John Loffink" <jloffink@a...> wrote:
> Second one, ...IF.jpg
> 
> John Loffink
> The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
> The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@e...]
> > 
> > OK, here are three more drawing with various options.
> > 
> > This one shows 0,3,7,10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have 
lost the
> > +
> > signs:
> > 
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbers037A.jp
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> > 
> > 
> > This one has numbers only on the shift knobs (no + signs as well):
> > 
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > This one shows 0 and 10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have 
lost the
> > +
> > signs:
> > 
> > 
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF0A.jp
g
> > 
> > 
> > Anything in that subdirectory is available for the final product. 
You
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> > vote for what you want...
> > 
> > Tony
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> >

Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question

2003-12-09 by Scott E.

Tony,

I like FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAllBip.jpg as the best choice. I might 
go with an even smaller font on the smaller knobs though.

Scott
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Tony Karavidas wrote:
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> Ok here's the one with "+" on the fine shift. I made the "+" a smaller font
> size and that tightened it up a bit.
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAllBip.jpg
> 
> Now I'm not sure which one I like the best.
> 
> Let me know...
> Tony
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...] 
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:47 PM
> To: 'groovyshaman@...'; 'motm@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question
> 
> Ok, here's another option. There are numbers on all pots, but any number
> that would have been partially obscured has been removed.
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersAll.jpg
> 
> What do you think of this? If you like this one the best so far, do you like
> the different numbers removed depending on where they are, or would you like
> the same numbers removed on all of the small pots?
> 
> Also, I had the fine shift pot with +1, +2, etc, and I really didn't like
> it. (Although it looks OK on the big knob). If you really want to see it, I
> can post that too.
> 
> Tony
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: groovyshaman@... [mailto:groovyshaman@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:39 PM
> To: tony@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question
> 
> [Although meaningless] the numbers look nice.
> Maybe just a + and - on the Fine Shift control.
> 
> George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...>
> To: "'Mark'" <yahoogroups@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [motm] Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question
> 
> 
> 
>>0 to 10 wouldn't make sense because it doesn't communicate the ability
> 
> of
> 
>>the shifter to 'invert' or shift through zero. I've updated the info 
>>on
> 
> the
> 
>>site recently to indicate it's a through zero FS.
>>
>>Yes, the Fine Shift approaches zero towards the center of its rotation.
> 
> I'll
> 
>>look into text for that knob too.
>>
>>The CV is positive only.
>>
>>Tony
>>
> 
> <snip>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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>

Re: Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

2003-12-09 by strohs56k

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote:
> 
> This one shows 0 and 10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have
> lost the + signs:
> 
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF0A.jp
g


I like this one the best - my only comment is: loose the -2, -3, -4 
and 2, 3, 4 form the FINE shift knob.  (But leave the numbers on the 
large knob.)

That will make everything consistent - end point labels on the small 
knobs, full labeling on the big knob.



I feel like I'm late to the party this time or something...

RE: [motm] Re: Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

2003-12-10 by Tony Karavidas

You're not late...keep the votes coming in. I'll be watching for a few more
days.

Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: strohs56k [mailto:strohs@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:59 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: Frequency Shifter - one 'final' question, really.. :)

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote:
> 
> This one shows 0 and 10 on the 6 knobs, and the shift knobs have lost 
> the + signs:
> 
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/FS/FreqShift_ProductionNumbersIF0A.jp
g


I like this one the best - my only comment is: loose the -2, -3, -4 and 2,
3, 4 form the FINE shift knob.  (But leave the numbers on the large knob.)

That will make everything consistent - end point labels on the small knobs,
full labeling on the big knob.



I feel like I'm late to the party this time or something...




 

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