Akai S1000 / S1100 samplers

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Hi people!

Anybody tried replacing the internal 1.44 floppy drive with an internal 
SCSI 3.5" zip drive or ever heard of such a hack???

Good year to everyone!

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you can use an internal scsi zip drive if you have a scsi card with
internal scsi connector. Go for quality - avoid cheapo stuff. A better
alternative are professional magneto optical drives which you find
very easily on ebay. We discussed this some time ago (use search
function to search in the messages). Don't switch scsi cables while
the sampler is powered.

Rgds
Frank

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> no,but it sounds like a good idea! anyone tried outing the display
to a much bigger easier to see one?I dare say all these things are
possible,but dare yee bugger up ya sampler if it doesnt work?
> 
> Sebastian Castro <rotoquezada@k...> wrote:  Hi people!
> 
> Anybody tried replacing the internal 1.44 floppy drive with an internal 
> SCSI 3.5" zip drive or ever heard of such a hack???
> 
> Good year to everyone!
> 
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Hello lads!

... it was a birth, a hard goin work, unmounted my s1100, got to get 
that old 1.44 floppy off and swapped it with an ol' scsi zip, and it 
worked like a swift (well, after some bubblin' around ...) ...

Facts to remember if anybody else wants to try this:
.- there's no way to pull things out' of the akai, it's a tank, you MUST 
unscrew all you can and dettach all cables near what you're trying to 
dismount.
.-there are all kind of different sized screws on the s1100, write out 
where you unscrewed'em from ...
.- test your drive BEFORE closing the s1100 ... better if you test it 
before dismounting your floppy.
.- if you let the floppy cable attached even with floppy's power 
unplugged, it will timeout forever on booting
.- if you happen to plug the internal scsi cable backwards, the s1100
will also timeout forever while your zip makes some funny noise.
.- let the zip  with termination on and id 5 (the default) which happens 
to be the default drive the s1100 looks for on bootup
.- touch regularly ground in order to discharge your self from static 
electricity.

I also got to replace the burned out lcd backlight with one i got from
www.midi-rakete.de, cheapest source in europe and that also worked like 
a charm.

... in my next reincarnation I might try to replace the zip with an ide 
flash reader + ide-scsi internal adapter :^) (bought one, but happened 
to be SCA, not SCSI 50 ... it's going back to ebay where I got it from)

... now I'm just going to enjoy my s1100 + int zip attached via scsi to 
my old faithful atari falcon!

greetings,

Sebastian.

> you can use an internal scsi zip drive if you have a scsi card with
> internal scsi connector. Go for quality - avoid cheapo stuff. A better
> alternative are professional magneto optical drives which you find
> very easily on ebay. We discussed this some time ago (use search
> function to search in the messages). Don't switch scsi cables while
> the sampler is powered.
> 
> Rgds
> Frank
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, melvin turner
> <dizardsdreams@y...> wrote:
>  >
>  > no,but it sounds like a good idea! anyone tried outing the display
> to a much bigger easier to see one?I dare say all these things are
> possible,but dare yee bugger up ya sampler if it doesnt work?
>  >
>  > Sebastian Castro <rotoquezada@k...> wrote:  Hi people!
>  >
>  > Anybody tried replacing the internal 1.44 floppy drive with an internal
>  > SCSI 3.5" zip drive or ever heard of such a hack???
>  >
>  > Good year to everyone!
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>  > Sebastian.
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Hi Folks!

I'm trying to do direct-to-disk recording on an S1100 (26Mb RAM, + 
digital I/O board) fitted with an internal SCSI ZIP drive. The ZIP works 
quite well for saving/loading samples, programs and everything but if I 
try to do direct-to-disk recording (DD) the S1100 complains with an 
"HARDWARE CHANGE NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" message as soon as I try to 
get a new take :^( any ideas?

I'm using a fresh ZIP disk, just formatted leaving all space (94Mb) for 
dd recording. Operating system is version 4.30 wich seems to be tha latest.

greetings,

Seba.

ZIP disks are not fast enough to support DD recording. You will probably
need a fixed media type drive - what's typically known as a "Hard Drive"

Regards,

Scott
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-----Original Message-----
Message 1 
    From: "Sebastian Castro" rotoquezada@...
    Date: Sat May 27, 2006 5:17am(PDT)
Subject: S1100 DD operation problem?

Hi Folks!

I'm trying to do direct-to-disk recording on an S1100 (26Mb RAM, + digital
I/O board) fitted with an internal SCSI ZIP drive. The ZIP works quite well
for saving/loading samples, programs and everything but if I try to do
direct-to-disk recording (DD) the S1100 complains with an "HARDWARE CHANGE
NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" message as soon as I try to get a new take :^( any
ideas?

I'm using a fresh ZIP disk, just formatted leaving all space (94Mb) for dd
recording. Operating system is version 4.30 wich seems to be tha latest.

greetings,

Seba.

Hi there,
thanks for the answer but you really really sure it can't be done? 
there's people on the list who claimed some years ago of doing dd 
recording on zip using an S3000XL.
read here:
http://63.247.135.83/~archive/akai/2004/jul_sep/msg00533.html

I have a spare scsi disk lying around, just wanted to be sure that it's 
a ZIP problem before mounting this old 'barracuda' inside an scsi ext 
case for trying dd.

Seba.

> ZIP disks are not fast enough to support DD recording. You will probably
> need a fixed media type drive - what's typically known as a "Hard Drive"
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> SoundEngine.com
> +1.847.440.7373
> http://www.soundengine.com/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Message 1
>     From: "Sebastian Castro" rotoquezada@...
>     Date: Sat May 27, 2006 5:17am(PDT)
> Subject: S1100 DD operation problem?
> 
> Hi Folks!
> 
> I'm trying to do direct-to-disk recording on an S1100 (26Mb RAM, + digital
> I/O board) fitted with an internal SCSI ZIP drive. The ZIP works quite well
> for saving/loading samples, programs and everything but if I try to do
> direct-to-disk recording (DD) the S1100 complains with an "HARDWARE CHANGE
> NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" message as soon as I try to get a new take :^( any
> ideas?
> 
> I'm using a fresh ZIP disk, just formatted leaving all space (94Mb) for dd
> recording. Operating system is version 4.30 wich seems to be tha latest.
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Seba.
> 
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>thanks for the answer but you really really sure it can't be done? 

90% certain - you experiment results seems to support this.

Scott
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-----Original Message-----
Message 2 
    From: "Sebastian Castro" rotoquezada@...
    Date: Sat May 27, 2006 10:05am(PDT)
Subject: Re: S1100 DD operation problem?

Hi there,
thanks for the answer but you really really sure it can't be done? 
there's people on the list who claimed some years ago of doing dd recording
on zip using an S3000XL.
read here:
http://63.247.135.83/~archive/akai/2004/jul_sep/msg00533.html

I have a spare scsi disk lying around, just wanted to be sure that it's a
ZIP problem before mounting this old 'barracuda' inside an scsi ext case for
trying dd.

Seba.

Hello All,

I know this thread is almost a year old but I too ran into errors trying to use the direct-to-
disk recording feature of the Akai S1100 to Zip Disk. Upon arming the take , the unit 
displays the ambiguous message "HARDWARE CHANGE NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" and 
does not attempt the recording. Has anyone verifed that simply using a non-removable 
SCSI disk fixes this problem?   


--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Sebastian Castro <rotoquezada@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> thanks for the answer but you really really sure it can't be done? 
> there's people on the list who claimed some years ago of doing dd 
> recording on zip using an S3000XL.
> read here:
> http://63.247.135.83/~archive/akai/2004/jul_sep/msg00533.html
> 
> I have a spare scsi disk lying around, just wanted to be sure that it's 
> a ZIP problem before mounting this old 'barracuda' inside an scsi ext 
> case for trying dd.
> 
> Seba.
> 
> > ZIP disks are not fast enough to support DD recording. You will probably
> > need a fixed media type drive - what's typically known as a "Hard Drive"
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Scott
> > SoundEngine.com
> > +1.847.440.7373
> > http://www.soundengine.com/
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Message 1
> >     From: "Sebastian Castro" rotoquezada@...
> >     Date: Sat May 27, 2006 5:17am(PDT)
> > Subject: S1100 DD operation problem?
> > 
> > Hi Folks!
> > 
> > I'm trying to do direct-to-disk recording on an S1100 (26Mb RAM, + digital
> > I/O board) fitted with an internal SCSI ZIP drive. The ZIP works quite well
> > for saving/loading samples, programs and everything but if I try to do
> > direct-to-disk recording (DD) the S1100 complains with an "HARDWARE CHANGE
> > NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" message as soon as I try to get a new take :^( any
> > ideas?
> > 
> > I'm using a fresh ZIP disk, just formatted leaving all space (94Mb) for dd
> > recording. Operating system is version 4.30 wich seems to be tha latest.
> > 
> > greetings,
> > 
> > Seba.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> > Sampler 
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sampler&w1=Sampler&w2=Electronic
+instrument&w3=Synthesizer+music&w4=Akai+samplers&w5=Electronic
+music&w6=Music+sampler&c=6&s=123&.sig=vn17Ba9WIUOmssfAvRi63A> 
> > 	Electronic instrument 
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Electronic
+instrument&w1=Sampler&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Synthesizer+music&w4=Akai
+samplers&w5=Electronic+music&w6=Music
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> > 	Synthesizer music 
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Synthesizer
+music&w1=Sampler&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Synthesizer+music&w4=Akai
+samplers&w5=Electronic+music&w6=Music
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> > 
> > Akai samplers 
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Akai
+samplers&w1=Sampler&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Synthesizer+music&w4=Akai
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> > 	Electronic music 
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Electronic
+music&w1=Sampler&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Synthesizer+music&w4=Akai
+samplers&w5=Electronic+music&w6=Music+sampler&c=6&s=123&.sig=Z8Iy-
wAtTNcJPT0GfAWFZA> 
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> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Music
+sampler&w1=Sampler&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Synthesizer+music&w4=Akai
+samplers&w5=Electronic+music&w6=Music
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On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:34 +0000, mikewolak wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I know this thread is almost a year old but I too ran into errors trying to use the direct-to-
> disk recording feature of the Akai S1100 to Zip Disk. Upon arming the take , the unit 
> displays the ambiguous message "HARDWARE CHANGE NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" and 
> does not attempt the recording. Has anyone verifed that simply using a non-removable 
> SCSI disk fixes this problem?   

I wouldn't be surprised. Zip disks are terribly slow.

Gordon

I have a SCSI Jazz drive kicking around, I'll give
that a try before I go hunt down an ancient external
scsi drive.

Thanks,

Mike Wolak

--- Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:34 +0000, mikewolak wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > I know this thread is almost a year old but I too
> ran into errors trying to use the direct-to-
> > disk recording feature of the Akai S1100 to Zip
> Disk. Upon arming the take , the unit 
> > displays the ambiguous message "HARDWARE CHANGE
> NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" and 
> > does not attempt the recording. Has anyone verifed
> that simply using a non-removable 
> > SCSI disk fixes this problem?   
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised. Zip disks are terribly
> slow.
> 
> Gordon
> 
>

I tried direct-disk recording with a Jazz Drive and
still had no luck. I also tried the formatting
technique mentioned at the end of this article
thinking perhaps it wanted the partition size to be
setup a certain way: 


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/apr97/akais1100.html


This article is the only info I've found for this
feature. Anyone know of another source of information?
BTW, I'm using OS v. 4.30. 

Thanks,

Mike Wolak


--- Mike Wolak <mikewolak@...> wrote:

> I have a SCSI Jazz drive kicking around, I'll give
> that a try before I go hunt down an ancient external
> scsi drive.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike Wolak
> 
> --- Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:34 +0000, mikewolak
> wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > > 
> > > I know this thread is almost a year old but I
> too
> > ran into errors trying to use the direct-to-
> > > disk recording feature of the Akai S1100 to Zip
> > Disk. Upon arming the take , the unit 
> > > displays the ambiguous message "HARDWARE CHANGE
> > NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" and 
> > > does not attempt the recording. Has anyone
> verifed
> > that simply using a non-removable 
> > > SCSI disk fixes this problem?   
> > 
> > I wouldn't be surprised. Zip disks are terribly
> > slow.
> > 
> > Gordon
> > 
> > 
> 
>

On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 14:31 -0700, Mike Wolak wrote:
> I tried direct-disk recording with a Jazz Drive and
> still had no luck. I also tried the formatting

I don't think even a Jazz drive would be fast enough.  Pretty much all
removable media are relatively slow compared to fixed disks.

It's also possible that something in the software just goes "Removable?
Nah, forget it" and disables recording even if the drive *was* fast
enough.

Or maybe they didn't want to tread on the toes of their DD1000...

Gordon

I'm guessing it's something sensing it's removable
too. There are a lot of desktop DD recorders that use
zip disks so jazz would be certainly be fast enough. I
did a quick bench mark on read/writes on the Jazz over
a SCSI 1 connection and it was  ~5MB /sec. That is
definetly fast enough for 1 stereo track. I'll
probably just give up at this point, it's not like I
really need it to DD record, I've got Logic Pro for
that ;) 

Thanks,

Mike Wolak



--- Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 14:31 -0700, Mike Wolak wrote:
> > I tried direct-disk recording with a Jazz Drive
> and
> > still had no luck. I also tried the formatting
> 
> I don't think even a Jazz drive would be fast
> enough.  Pretty much all
> removable media are relatively slow compared to
> fixed disks.
> 
> It's also possible that something in the software
> just goes "Removable?
> Nah, forget it" and disables recording even if the
> drive *was* fast
> enough.
> 
> Or maybe they didn't want to tread on the toes of
> their DD1000...
> 
> Gordon
> 
>

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has found some information about the "S1100 hardware mod" that has to be done in order to get rid of the error message "HARDWARE CHANGE NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" in the harddisk recording menu? Btw, I already have firmware version 4.30 installed.

I'm not sure if this is simply a restriction to particular SCSI drives, or if the mainboard/SCSI card actually requires some kind of patching or chip replacement.

Any kind of help would be appreciated.

Best regards
Michael




--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "mikewolak" <mikewolak@...> wrote:

>
> Hello All,
> 
> I know this thread is almost a year old but I too ran into errors trying to use the direct-to-
> disk recording feature of the Akai S1100 to Zip Disk. Upon arming the take , the unit 
> displays the ambiguous message "HARDWARE CHANGE NEEDED FOR DD OPERATION" and 
> does not attempt the recording. Has anyone verifed that simply using a non-removable 
> SCSI disk fixes this problem?   
>