Living VCO panels for MOTM?
2010-05-12 by Eric Frampton

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2010-05-12 by Eric Frampton
2010-05-12 by wjhall11
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
>
> Is there an ETA?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
2010-05-14 by Scott Deyo
As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living VCO-plus-waveshaper s large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-waveshapers and with small-knobs.
Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't know how to upload these - sorry):
http://www.dragonfl yalley.com/ constructionJHLi vingVCO.htm
At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U version most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
Between these designs is the 5U version.
I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted the 5U version but nothing was decided further.
Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
http://www.modulars ynthesis. com/jhaible/ lvcos/jhlvcos. htm
Bill
--- In ModularSynthPanels@ yahoogroups. com, Eric Frampton <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
>
> Is there an ETA?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
2010-05-14 by Scott K Warren
On May 13, 2010, at 11:00 PM, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of June, July shipping hopefully.How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too many!Scott DeyoThe BridechamberJealous Edison Record Kompany
On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living VCO-plus-waveshaper s large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-waveshapers and with small-knobs.
Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't know how to upload these - sorry):
http://www.dragonfl yalley.com/ constructionJHLi vingVCO.htm
At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U version most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
Between these designs is the 5U version.
I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted the 5U version but nothing was decided further.
Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
http://www.modulars ynthesis. com/jhaible/ lvcos/jhlvcos. htm
Bill
--- In ModularSynthPanels@ yahoogroups. com, Eric Frampton <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
>
> Is there an ETA?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
2010-05-14 by Ben Stuyts
On 14 mei 2010, at 06:00, Scott Deyo wrote:
> I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of June, July shipping hopefully.
>
> How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too many!
1 x 5U for me.
Ben
2010-05-14 by gjames@netguild.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Deyo [mailto:contact@...]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:00 AM
To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Re: Living VCO panels for MOTM?
I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of June, July shipping hopefully.How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too many!Scott DeyoThe BridechamberJealous Edison Record Kompany
On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living VCO-plus-waveshaper s large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-waveshapers and with small-knobs.
Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't know how to upload these - sorry):
http://www.dragonfl yalley.com/ constructionJHLi vingVCO.htm
At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U version most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
Between these designs is the 5U version.
I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted the 5U version but nothing was decided further.
Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
http://www.modulars ynthesis. com/jhaible/ lvcos/jhlvcos. htm
Bill
--- In ModularSynthPanels@ yahoogroups. com, Eric Frampton <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
>
> Is there an ETA?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
2010-05-14 by klstay
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
> June, July shipping hopefully.
>
> How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
> list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too many!
>
> Scott Deyo
> contact@...
> The Bridechamber
> www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> www.jealousedison.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
>
> > As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living VCO-
> > plus-waveshapers large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-
> > waveshapers and with small-knobs.
> >
> > Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't
> > know how to upload these - sorry):
> >
> > http://www.dragonflyalley.com/constructionJHLivingVCO.htm
> >
> > At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a
> > funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U version
> > most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
> >
> > Between these designs is the 5U version.
> >
> > I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were
> > interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted the
> > 5U version but nothing was decided further.
> >
> > Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
> > http://www.modularsynthesis.com/jhaible/lvcos/jhlvcos.htm
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> > >
> > > Is there an ETA?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
2010-05-14 by Scott Deyo
Sigh, so many modules so little time...
I would pick up at least 1 of either, but prefer the 5U sans waveshapers.
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
> June, July shipping hopefully.
>
> How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
> list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too many!
>
> Scott Deyo
> contact@...
> The Bridechamber
> www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> www.jealousedison.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
>
> > As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living VCO-
> > plus-waveshapers large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-
> > waveshapers and with small-knobs.
> >
> > Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't
> > know how to upload these - sorry):
> >
> > http://www.dragonflyalley.com/constructionJHLivingVCO.htm
> >
> > At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a
> > funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U version
> > most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
> >
> > Between these designs is the 5U version.
> >
> > I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were
> > interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted the
> > 5U version but nothing was decided further.
> >
> > Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
> > http://www.modularsynthesis.com/jhaible/lvcos/jhlvcos.htm
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> > >
> > > Is there an ETA?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
2010-05-14 by wjhall11
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> I'm on the fence, too. I feel like the 7U is a lot of extra money and
> work, but I will miss the sines if I skip 'em.... sigh...
>
> Scott Deyo
> contact@...
> The Bridechamber
> www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> www.jealousedison.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, klstay wrote:
>
> > Sigh, so many modules so little time...
> >
> > I would pick up at least 1 of either, but prefer the 5U sans
> > waveshapers.
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
> > > June, July shipping hopefully.
> > >
> > > How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
> > > list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too
> > many!
> > >
> > > Scott Deyo
> > > contact@
> > > The Bridechamber
> > > www.bridechamber.com
> > > Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> > > www.jealousedison.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living
> > VCO-
> > > > plus-waveshapers large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-
> > > > waveshapers and with small-knobs.
> > > >
> > > > Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't
> > > > know how to upload these - sorry):
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dragonflyalley.com/constructionJHLivingVCO.htm
> > > >
> > > > At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a
> > > > funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U
> > version
> > > > most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
> > > >
> > > > Between these designs is the 5U version.
> > > >
> > > > I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were
> > > > interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted
> > the
> > > > 5U version but nothing was decided further.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
> > > > http://www.modularsynthesis.com/jhaible/lvcos/jhlvcos.htm
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look
> > like?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there an ETA?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
2010-05-14 by klstay
2010-05-14 by Scott K Warren
On May 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@...> wrote:
> Yes - that's my position too - Will is more gung-ho on principle.
>
> But you know - the wave-shapers could be made into a companion 2U module.
>
> HISTORY:
>
> See - I was blissfully proceeding down the 5U path when Will, pouring over Jurgen's LVCO page, spotted Jurgen's mention of wave-shapers - that he (Jurgen) was providing a place that the raw Osc. outputs could be hooked up to waveshapers. Will even found mention in another forum's LVCO thread that Jurgen had considered including waveshapers on the VCO board, but decided to omit them because of space considerations.
>
> So Will and I looked at the MOTM300s and discerned the waveshapers on that, and had a lightbulb moment... why not implement Jurgen's idea using another oscillator's PCB's waveshapers? So we rummaged around and found the MFOS Osc. and figured out, in theory, how to do it.
>
> It's untested, but we see no reason it wouldn't work. We consulted a couple experts, and they concurred... but I'd have to look at our old email to remember exactly who and what.
>
> Probably we should ask Scott Deyo, Scott Juskiw, and Dave Brown to review our idea for a final thumbs-up.
>
> So let's all be forwarned, OK? I mean, it's not like Will and I have built and tested the damned thing... but, again, with some fiddling about the value of the input resistor to the CGS Osc. wave-shapers, it should be a no-brainer. (we've done our best to chart this out on our LVCO page so we wouldn't forget how we thought of doing it)
>
> SO THE 2U COMPANION MODULE:
>
> Another possibility we entertained was to put the 3 wave-shapers in a separate 2U module. We just didn't want to do that.
>
> But what does everybody think of that idea?
>
> The down-side is that the LVCO just lays out better in 7U anyway and if you're using 7U you have the space for the wave-shapers. So why not just do the 7U.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'm on the fence, too. I feel like the 7U is a lot of extra money and
>> work, but I will miss the sines if I skip 'em.... sigh...
>>
>> Scott Deyo
>> contact@...
>> The Bridechamber
>> www.bridechamber.com
>> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
>> www.jealousedison.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, klstay wrote:
>>
>>> Sigh, so many modules so little time...
>>>
>>> I would pick up at least 1 of either, but prefer the 5U sans
>>> waveshapers.
>>>
>>> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
>>>> June, July shipping hopefully.
>>>>
>>>> How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
>>>> list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too
>>> many!
>>>>
>>>> Scott Deyo
>>>> contact@
>>>> The Bridechamber
>>>> www.bridechamber.com
>>>> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
>>>> www.jealousedison.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living
>>> VCO-
>>>>> plus-waveshapers large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-
>>>>> waveshapers and with small-knobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't
>>>>> know how to upload these - sorry):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dragonflyalley.com/constructionJHLivingVCO.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a
>>>>> funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U
>>> version
>>>>> most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Between these designs is the 5U version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were
>>>>> interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted
>>> the
>>>>> 5U version but nothing was decided further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
>>>>> http://www.modularsynthesis.com/jhaible/lvcos/jhlvcos.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look
>>> like?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there an ETA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
2010-05-14 by peter foti
2010-05-14 by John L Rice
WOW! Looks awesome, Peter! Great job!
John L Rice
From:
ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of peter foti
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:16 AM
To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Re: Living VCO panels for MOTM?
I'm not a MOTMer & I make my own panels, so I don't have much to add to this debate. I did however finish wiring my Living VCO module today. Its still on the bench being checked over and is not integrated into my system yet but is looking and sounding good so far.
I managed a FRAC format panel design that has all the stock features and fits pretty comfortably (for me) on a 5U frac panel.
Here's a pic of the module taken some time ago before beginning wiring:
peter
2010-05-14 by wjhall11
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott K Warren <scott@...> wrote:
>
> Right, why put the waveshapers in a separate module when you end up using 7U of space anyway and the integrated 7U design has a better layout?
>
> Well, one reason might be if it turns out that there's not enough 7U demand for Scott to justify doing a 7U panel. Then everybody buys 5U's, and the ambitious ones hope Scott will do the 2U companion panel. (Of course Scott will then still be looking at doing a panel run just for that same small number of ambitious customers.)
>
> But if that happens, I will just FPD my two 7U panels and call it a day.
>
> The way I figure it, Scott is doing us all a huge favor by taking the risk on making all those panels and it must be pretty hard to figure out what's going to be profitable when everyone has different opinions on things. So when he makes a panel I want, I feel like I got lucky, and I buy it. And when he doesn't, I do my own thing with no hard feelings. (Thanks, Scott!)
>
> But while Scott's decision is pending I can still lobby! So come on guys, fire up for 7U!
>
> skw
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@...> wrote:
>
> > Yes - that's my position too - Will is more gung-ho on principle.
> >
> > But you know - the wave-shapers could be made into a companion 2U module.
> >
> > HISTORY:
> >
> > See - I was blissfully proceeding down the 5U path when Will, pouring over Jurgen's LVCO page, spotted Jurgen's mention of wave-shapers - that he (Jurgen) was providing a place that the raw Osc. outputs could be hooked up to waveshapers. Will even found mention in another forum's LVCO thread that Jurgen had considered including waveshapers on the VCO board, but decided to omit them because of space considerations.
> >
> > So Will and I looked at the MOTM300s and discerned the waveshapers on that, and had a lightbulb moment... why not implement Jurgen's idea using another oscillator's PCB's waveshapers? So we rummaged around and found the MFOS Osc. and figured out, in theory, how to do it.
> >
> > It's untested, but we see no reason it wouldn't work. We consulted a couple experts, and they concurred... but I'd have to look at our old email to remember exactly who and what.
> >
> > Probably we should ask Scott Deyo, Scott Juskiw, and Dave Brown to review our idea for a final thumbs-up.
> >
> > So let's all be forwarned, OK? I mean, it's not like Will and I have built and tested the damned thing... but, again, with some fiddling about the value of the input resistor to the CGS Osc. wave-shapers, it should be a no-brainer. (we've done our best to chart this out on our LVCO page so we wouldn't forget how we thought of doing it)
> >
> > SO THE 2U COMPANION MODULE:
> >
> > Another possibility we entertained was to put the 3 wave-shapers in a separate 2U module. We just didn't want to do that.
> >
> > But what does everybody think of that idea?
> >
> > The down-side is that the LVCO just lays out better in 7U anyway and if you're using 7U you have the space for the wave-shapers. So why not just do the 7U.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm on the fence, too. I feel like the 7U is a lot of extra money and
> >> work, but I will miss the sines if I skip 'em.... sigh...
> >>
> >> Scott Deyo
> >> contact@
> >> The Bridechamber
> >> www.bridechamber.com
> >> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> >> www.jealousedison.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, klstay wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sigh, so many modules so little time...
> >>>
> >>> I would pick up at least 1 of either, but prefer the 5U sans
> >>> waveshapers.
> >>>
> >>> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
> >>>> June, July shipping hopefully.
> >>>>
> >>>> How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
> >>>> list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too
> >>> many!
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott Deyo
> >>>> contact@
> >>>> The Bridechamber
> >>>> www.bridechamber.com
> >>>> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> >>>> www.jealousedison.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living
> >>> VCO-
> >>>>> plus-waveshapers large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-
> >>>>> waveshapers and with small-knobs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't
> >>>>> know how to upload these - sorry):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.dragonflyalley.com/constructionJHLivingVCO.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a
> >>>>> funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U
> >>> version
> >>>>> most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Between these designs is the 5U version.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were
> >>>>> interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted
> >>> the
> >>>>> 5U version but nothing was decided further.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
> >>>>> http://www.modularsynthesis.com/jhaible/lvcos/jhlvcos.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look
> >>> like?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there an ETA?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Eric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
2010-05-14 by Greg James
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> I'm on the fence, too. I feel like the 7U is a lot of extra money and
> work, but I will miss the sines if I skip 'em.... sigh...
>
> Scott Deyo
> contact@...
> The Bridechamber
> www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> www.jealousedison.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, klstay wrote:
>
> > Sigh, so many modules so little time...
> >
> > I would pick up at least 1 of either, but prefer the 5U sans
> > waveshapers.
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
> > > June, July shipping hopefully.
> > >
> > > How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
> > > list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too
> > many!
> > >
> > > Scott Deyo
> > > contact@
> > > The Bridechamber
> > > www.bridechamber.com
> > > Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> > > www.jealousedison.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 12, 2010, at 1:51 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I recall, a 7U version was generally accepted for the Living
> > VCO-
> > > > plus-waveshapers large-knob implementation, and a 5U version sans-
> > > > waveshapers and with small-knobs.
> > > >
> > > > Will and I put some designs on our Living VCO page here (I don't
> > > > know how to upload these - sorry):
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dragonflyalley.com/constructionJHLivingVCO.htm
> > > >
> > > > At the top of the page is my favorite 7U version... but it has a
> > > > funky grid-offset and is not as well liked by others. The 7U
> > version
> > > > most-liked is the Greg-James/Will Hall version below that.
> > > >
> > > > Between these designs is the 5U version.
> > > >
> > > > I believe the discussion left off where a bunch of people were
> > > > interested in the GJ/WH 7U version, and a bunch of people wanted
> > the
> > > > 5U version but nothing was decided further.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Brown did a very cool 3U version, by the way:
> > > > http://www.modularsynthesis.com/jhaible/lvcos/jhlvcos.htm
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look
> > like?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there an ETA?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Yahoo! Groups Links
2010-05-15 by Todd
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
>
> Is there an ETA?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
2010-05-16 by jk@jasonkahn.net
> Re: Living VCO panels for MOTM?
> Posted by: "peter foti" 11Hertz@... dr.photon
> Fri May 14, 2010 11:15 am (PDT)
>
>
> I'm not a MOTMer & I make my own panels, so I don't have much to add to this
> debate. I did however finish wiring my Living VCO module today. Its still on
> the bench being checked over and is not integrated into my system yet but is
> looking and sounding good so far.
>
> I managed a FRAC format panel design that has all the stock features and
> fits pretty comfortably (for me) on a 5U frac panel.
>
> Here's a pic of the module taken some time ago before beginning wiring:
>
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2564/3756079896_50132dd6fc_b.jpg
>
> peter
2010-05-16 by adaaxs
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a consensus on the big multi turn knobs vs a coarse / fine arrangement? I recently built a LVCO in Euro for bbow73 (picture at Muff's). We used the big multi turn gym locker knobs. They're cool,but they're not cheap.
>
> Scott - If you go with a big knob setup PLEASE ADD THE SMALL ANTI-ROTATION HOLE.
>
> -TF
>
> P.S. Be sure to add the small antirotation hole. It needs to be perfect. I'm handy with my drill press, but it really needs to be perfect. I think I spent half a day getting those things lined up.
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@> wrote:
> >
> > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> >
> > Is there an ETA?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric
> >
>
2010-05-17 by Todd
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <ginowong@...> wrote:
>
> It would probably be easier just to mark where you would drill a hole for anti rotation ala EMS. Drill it if you need it and save the expense, as it is this panel is going to be very pricey.
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a consensus on the big multi turn knobs vs a coarse / fine arrangement? I recently built a LVCO in Euro for bbow73 (picture at Muff's). We used the big multi turn gym locker knobs. They're cool,but they're not cheap.
> >
> > Scott - If you go with a big knob setup PLEASE ADD THE SMALL ANTI-ROTATION HOLE.
> >
> > -TF
> >
> > P.S. Be sure to add the small antirotation hole. It needs to be perfect. I'm handy with my drill press, but it really needs to be perfect. I think I spent half a day getting those things lined up.
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> > >
> > > Is there an ETA?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
>
2010-05-17 by wjhall11
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@...> wrote:
>
> With all due respect, I disagree. If all three holes are not perfect the verniers will not line up right. A small difference on the anti rotation hole equals a big difference with knob allignment. I can't imagine the additional three holes adding much to the cost.
>
> -TF
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <ginowong@> wrote:
> >
> > It would probably be easier just to mark where you would drill a hole for anti rotation ala EMS. Drill it if you need it and save the expense, as it is this panel is going to be very pricey.
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a consensus on the big multi turn knobs vs a coarse / fine arrangement? I recently built a LVCO in Euro for bbow73 (picture at Muff's). We used the big multi turn gym locker knobs. They're cool,but they're not cheap.
> > >
> > > Scott - If you go with a big knob setup PLEASE ADD THE SMALL ANTI-ROTATION HOLE.
> > >
> > > -TF
> > >
> > > P.S. Be sure to add the small antirotation hole. It needs to be perfect. I'm handy with my drill press, but it really needs to be perfect. I think I spent half a day getting those things lined up.
> > >
> > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> > > >
> > > > Is there an ETA?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
2010-05-17 by Eric Frampton
On May 14, 2010, at 6:42 AM, ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com wrote:I'm looking to put the 5U on the next run, initiating beginning of
June, July shipping hopefully.
How many are interested in the 5U? 7U? Feel free to contact me off-
list too. I just want to make sure I make enough, and not way too many!
2010-05-18 by adaaxs
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@...> wrote:
>
> With all due respect, I disagree. If all three holes are not perfect the verniers will not line up right. A small difference on the anti rotation hole equals a big difference with knob allignment. I can't imagine the additional three holes adding much to the cost.
>
> -TF
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <ginowong@> wrote:
> >
> > It would probably be easier just to mark where you would drill a hole for anti rotation ala EMS. Drill it if you need it and save the expense, as it is this panel is going to be very pricey.
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a consensus on the big multi turn knobs vs a coarse / fine arrangement? I recently built a LVCO in Euro for bbow73 (picture at Muff's). We used the big multi turn gym locker knobs. They're cool,but they're not cheap.
> > >
> > > Scott - If you go with a big knob setup PLEASE ADD THE SMALL ANTI-ROTATION HOLE.
> > >
> > > -TF
> > >
> > > P.S. Be sure to add the small antirotation hole. It needs to be perfect. I'm handy with my drill press, but it really needs to be perfect. I think I spent half a day getting those things lined up.
> > >
> > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> > > >
> > > > Is there an ETA?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
2010-05-19 by Scott Deyo
When Will and I were looking into the Verniers, we saw that different ones have different anti-rotation hole locations. But Scott could choose a couple of the most common dials and drill holes for them both as the anti-turning holes will be behind the dials and not seen. Just a thought. Oh - and I'd be happy to do the footwork and gather different dial specs. Bill
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@...> wrote:
>
> With all due respect, I disagree. If all three holes are not perfect the verniers will not line up right. A small difference on the anti rotation hole equals a big difference with knob allignment. I can't imagine the additional three holes adding much to the cost.
>
> -TF
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <ginowong@> wrote:
> >
> > It would probably be easier just to mark where you would drill a hole for anti rotation ala EMS. Drill it if you need it and save the expense, as it is this panel is going to be very pricey.
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a consensus on the big multi turn knobs vs a coarse / fine arrangement? I recently built a LVCO in Euro for bbow73 (picture at Muff's). We used the big multi turn gym locker knobs. They're cool,but they're not cheap.
> > >
> > > Scott - If you go with a big knob setup PLEASE ADD THE SMALL ANTI-ROTATION HOLE.
> > >
> > > -TF
> > >
> > > P.S. Be sure to add the small antirotation hole. It needs to be perfect. I'm handy with my drill press, but it really needs to be perfect. I think I spent half a day getting those things lined up.
> > >
> > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should look like?
> > > >
> > > > Is there an ETA?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
2010-05-19 by krelnarb
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> If you'd be willing to do the spec-work, that would help it happen.
>
> Scott Deyo
> contact@...
> The Bridechamber
> www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> www.jealousedison.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 17, 2010, at 12:55 PM, wjhall11 wrote:
>
> > When Will and I were looking into the Verniers, we saw that
> > different ones have different anti-rotation hole locations. But
> > Scott could choose a couple of the most common dials and drill holes
> > for them both as the anti-turning holes will be behind the dials and
> > not seen. Just a thought. Oh - and I'd be happy to do the footwork
> > and gather different dial specs. Bill
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <babysealclub@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > With all due respect, I disagree. If all three holes are not
> > perfect the verniers will not line up right. A small difference on
> > the anti rotation hole equals a big difference with knob allignment.
> > I can't imagine the additional three holes adding much to the cost.
> > >
> > > -TF
> > >
> > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <ginowong@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It would probably be easier just to mark where you would drill a
> > hole for anti rotation ala EMS. Drill it if you need it and save the
> > expense, as it is this panel is going to be very pricey.
> > > >
> > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Todd"
> > <babysealclub@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a consensus on the big multi turn knobs vs a coarse /
> > fine arrangement? I recently built a LVCO in Euro for bbow73
> > (picture at Muff's). We used the big multi turn gym locker knobs.
> > They're cool,but they're not cheap.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott - If you go with a big knob setup PLEASE ADD THE SMALL
> > ANTI-ROTATION HOLE.
> > > > >
> > > > > -TF
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Be sure to add the small antirotation hole. It needs to
> > be perfect. I'm handy with my drill press, but it really needs to be
> > perfect. I think I spent half a day getting those things lined up.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton
> > <eric@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Was a consensus ever reached about what this panel should
> > look like?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there an ETA?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>