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c86 ez - what settings

2004-12-15 by weareallsosmall

What settings are you guys using with the c86 ez setup? 

When I use Pauls recomended settings for EEM I get really nice prints
except for banding from the Eboni cart.  When I use the matte paper
setting the banding disapears, but the prints posterize, with blocks
of dark grey merging together in the 81-97% areas on a 100-step wedge,
and a nasty leap to pure black from 98-100%.  

Here are the settings I am using:
 In print with preview:
  Color management
   Document: Gray Gamma 2.2
  Print space:
   Profile: Gray Gamma 2.2
   Intent: Perceptual
    "Use black point compensation" checked
 
 In Print properties:
  Plain paper
  Best photo
  None of the print options are checked
  Color Controls: gamma 1.8
  Brightness: -5 
  Contrast: -15

Am I missing something?
Thanks
 john

RE: [Digital BW] c86 ez - what settings

2004-12-15 by Paul Roark

There is a new C86 Readme file at
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/C86-EZ-UT-Readme.htm.  (Sorry, I forgot to
upload it previously.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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From: weareallsosmall [mailto:weareallsosmall@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:39 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] c86 ez - what settings



What settings are you guys using with the c86 ez setup? 

When I use Pauls recomended settings for EEM I get really nice prints
except for banding from the Eboni cart.  When I use the matte paper
setting the banding disapears, but the prints posterize, with blocks
of dark grey merging together in the 81-97% areas on a 100-step wedge,
and a nasty leap to pure black from 98-100%.  

Here are the settings I am using:
 In print with preview:
  Color management
   Document: Gray Gamma 2.2
  Print space:
   Profile: Gray Gamma 2.2
   Intent: Perceptual
    "Use black point compensation" checked
 
 In Print properties:
  Plain paper
  Best photo
  None of the print options are checked
  Color Controls: gamma 1.8
  Brightness: -5 
  Contrast: -15

Am I missing something?
Thanks
 john






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Flaking

2004-12-15 by Michael Poster

A few weeks ago I posted questions about paper choices. The helpful answers 
I received here and elsewhere led me to try Moab Entrada Natural. I've now 
got a custom profile for color and am using QTR for BW. I like the print 
quality enough to keep working with it until something proves to me that 
it's not the right paper for my pictures.

I'd previously used EEM exclusively. It was cheap for learning purposes and 
allowed me to make some pretty decent prints. It also made me a bit 
complacent about the flaking issue (since it doesn't flake to any worrisome 
degree). That's changed with Entrada and my knee-jerk response to the 
problem would be to look for another less flake-prone paper. But it seems 
to me that so many color and BW printers are using papers that have this 
issue to one degree or another. For some, it seems to be a constant source 
of aggravation, but others seem to live with it worry-free.

I've read about wiping with cotton gloves or tee shirts, blowing off with 
canned air and a couple of similar methods, but so far these don't really 
take care of the problem for me. I'm wondering about those that use 
flake-prone papers routinely. Is there some predictably effective 
techniques you've developed for dealing with the issue?

I keep thinking about those of you printing large prints that might see 
just one or two small white spots appear before the print is coated or 
framed. And that leads me to a second question I almost hesitate to ask. Do 
you ever fill the defect? If so, what are you using and why?

Michael

RE: [Digital BW] Flaking

2004-12-15 by Paul Roark

I have had to spot (touch up) prints.  I use magnifying goggles, a round
tooth pick, and the ink the printer was using.

However, to avoid this hassle, I don't use paper that flakes significantly.
The smooth cotton ones that do not flake significantly, in my experience,
are Epson UltraSmooth, PremierArt Hot Press Fine Art, and PermaJet Alpha,
Delta, and Omega.

Entrada seems be vary from batch to batch.  I use a blower brush on it, but
still only use it for small prints due to the problem.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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From: Michael Poster [mailto:mposter@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:14 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Flaking


A few weeks ago I posted questions about paper choices. The helpful answers 
I received here and elsewhere led me to try Moab Entrada Natural. I've now 
got a custom profile for color and am using QTR for BW. I like the print 
quality enough to keep working with it until something proves to me that 
it's not the right paper for my pictures.

I'd previously used EEM exclusively. It was cheap for learning purposes and 
allowed me to make some pretty decent prints. It also made me a bit 
complacent about the flaking issue (since it doesn't flake to any worrisome 
degree). That's changed with Entrada and my knee-jerk response to the 
problem would be to look for another less flake-prone paper. But it seems 
to me that so many color and BW printers are using papers that have this 
issue to one degree or another. For some, it seems to be a constant source 
of aggravation, but others seem to live with it worry-free.

I've read about wiping with cotton gloves or tee shirts, blowing off with 
canned air and a couple of similar methods, but so far these don't really 
take care of the problem for me. I'm wondering about those that use 
flake-prone papers routinely. Is there some predictably effective 
techniques you've developed for dealing with the issue?

I keep thinking about those of you printing large prints that might see 
just one or two small white spots appear before the print is coated or 
framed. And that leads me to a second question I almost hesitate to ask. Do 
you ever fill the defect? If so, what are you using and why?

Michael




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RE: Flaking

2004-12-15 by AdventureCam Photo

Have you tried a camel hair brush?  They're readily available from any
drafting supply store.  One may do the trick for the flaking issue.

Michael J. Pach
Owner
AdventureCam Photo
Proof Line Ink Jet Paper & Media
719-260-6637
www.adventurecamphoto.com

I've read about wiping with cotton gloves or tee shirts, blowing off with

canned air and a couple of similar methods, but so far these don't really

take care of the problem for me. I'm wondering about those that use

flake-prone papers routinely. Is there some predictably effective

techniques you've developed for dealing with the issue?

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Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2004-12-15 by Scott Graham

I think that Paul has a great idea, we just need to carry it slightly further and boycott 
companies that think flaking paper is customer friendly.  Afterall, we finally got cars that 
the fenders don't flake off of much anymore.

And "some tolerate it well"?  everybodies pain threshold is different.  Some actually like it 
I've heard.

So, boycott?

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> 
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> I have had to spot (touch up) prints.  I use magnifying goggles, a round
> tooth pick, and the ink the printer was using.
> 
> However, to avoid this hassle, I don't use paper that flakes significantly.
> The smooth cotton ones that do not flake significantly, in my experience,
> are Epson UltraSmooth, PremierArt Hot Press Fine Art, and PermaJet Alpha,
> Delta, and Omega.
> 
> Entrada seems be vary from batch to batch.  I use a blower brush on it, but
> still only use it for small prints due to the problem.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> __________________________
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2004-12-15 by The Wogster

Scott Graham wrote:
> 
> I think that Paul has a great idea, we just need to carry it slightly further and boycott 
> companies that think flaking paper is customer friendly.  Afterall, we finally got cars that 
> the fenders don't flake off of much anymore.
> 
> And "some tolerate it well"?  everybodies pain threshold is different.  Some actually like it 
> I've heard.
> 
> So, boycott?
> 

I agree, if paper flakes more then you like, then simply select a 
different paper.  There are at least 200 different papers out there, 
from standard cheapie paper, to the finest art papers, so everyone 
should be able to find something they like.

Sometimes I think the fine art papers are over-rated, once a print is 
mounted, matted, framed and behind glass, it's a lot harder to tell the 
difference between a $29 a sheet paper and a $29 a box paper.

W

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2004-12-15 by Steve Kale

Can I ask how people spot prints made with colour inks...either B&W or colour?  

(I guess if you can respond to the colour part you had better contact me off-list.)

Thanks

Steve


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> 
wrote:
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> I have had to spot (touch up) prints.  I use magnifying goggles, a round
> tooth pick, and the ink the printer was using.
> 
> However, to avoid this hassle, I don't use paper that flakes significantly.
> The smooth cotton ones that do not flake significantly, in my experience,
> are Epson UltraSmooth, PremierArt Hot Press Fine Art, and PermaJet Alpha,
> Delta, and Omega.
> 
> Entrada seems be vary from batch to batch.  I use a blower brush on it, but
> still only use it for small prints due to the problem.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2004-12-15 by Michael Poster

At 09:20 AM 12/15/2004, you wrote:
>Can I ask how people spot prints made with colour inks...either B&W or 
>colour?
>
>(I guess if you can respond to the colour part you had better contact me 
>off-list.)

If you're gonna respond off list, **please** copy me...

Re: Flaking

2004-12-15 by Tom Andrews

Hi Michael,

I also have found the Moab Entrada Natural to be a really excellent non-OBA 
paper in terms of crispness, detail rendition, and brilliance of print.  However, 
it does flake. And as Paul commented, this varies from box to box or roll to 
roll.  I brush the paper with a good drafting brush and I brush both sides 
vigorously in all four directions.  If it is a large sheet of paper, I will also then 
blow some canned air on it.  95% of the time this gives me flakeless prints.  
However, I recently ran into a box of paper that flaked badly, even after 
brushing.  I plan to return this box.  I selected the Entrada after a lot of 
testing.  I don't really look forward to a whole new round of testing and 
the necessary custom profiles to do it right.  But the flaking may push me to 
this. I also am in search of the best way to spot the odd flaked spot on a 
print.  Cheers,

Tom Andrews
http://www.wildlandart.com


> A few weeks ago I posted questions about paper choices. The helpful 
answers 
> I received here and elsewhere led me to try Moab Entrada Natural. I've 
now 
> got a custom profile for color and am using QTR for BW. I like the print 
> quality enough to keep working with it until something proves to me that 
> it's not the right paper for my pictures.
> 
> I'd previously used EEM exclusively. It was cheap for learning purposes and 
> allowed me to make some pretty decent prints. It also made me a bit 
> complacent about the flaking issue (since it doesn't flake to any worrisome 
> degree). That's changed with Entrada and my knee-jerk response to the 
> problem would be to look for another less flake-prone paper. But it seems 
> to me that so many color and BW printers are using papers that have this 
> issue to one degree or another. For some, it seems to be a constant source 
> of aggravation, but others seem to live with it worry-free.
> 
> I've read about wiping with cotton gloves or tee shirts, blowing off with 
> canned air and a couple of similar methods, but so far these don't really 
> take care of the problem for me. I'm wondering about those that use 
> flake-prone papers routinely. Is there some predictably effective 
> techniques you've developed for dealing with the issue?
> 
> I keep thinking about those of you printing large prints that might see 
> just one or two small white spots appear before the print is coated or 
> framed. And that leads me to a second question I almost hesitate to ask. 
Do 
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> you ever fill the defect? If so, what are you using and why?
> 
> Michael

Re: [Digital BW] c86 ez - what settings

2004-12-15 by weareallsosmall

Thanks Paul.

I'm still getting posterization (i think i'm using the term correctly)
with the listed settings, and even worse with the +25c/-25y
adjustment, but I'll play with it till I get what I want and probably
learn a few things along the way.

Thanks again
 john


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> There is a new C86 Readme file at
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/C86-EZ-UT-Readme.htm.  (Sorry, I forgot to
> upload it previously.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> ______________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: weareallsosmall [mailto:weareallsosmall@y...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:39 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] c86 ez - what settings
> 
> 
> 
> What settings are you guys using with the c86 ez setup? 
> 
> When I use Pauls recomended settings for EEM I get really nice prints
> except for banding from the Eboni cart.  When I use the matte paper
> setting the banding disapears, but the prints posterize, with blocks
> of dark grey merging together in the 81-97% areas on a 100-step wedge,
> and a nasty leap to pure black from 98-100%.  
> 
> Here are the settings I am using:
>  In print with preview:
>   Color management
>    Document: Gray Gamma 2.2
>   Print space:
>    Profile: Gray Gamma 2.2
>    Intent: Perceptual
>     "Use black point compensation" checked
>  
>  In Print properties:
>   Plain paper
>   Best photo
>   None of the print options are checked
>   Color Controls: gamma 1.8
>   Brightness: -5 
>   Contrast: -15
> 
> Am I missing something?
> Thanks
>  john
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other
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Flaking

2015-08-02 by jacques.caron@...

Hi all


I'm printing with an EB6 configuration; even if I brush my paper before printing, sometimes I get some sort of flaking. Very small white spots appear. Since I'm not coating the print, can I retouch the old way with the inks?


Thanks

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2015-08-02 by Paul Roark

What paper are you using?

You can retouch with inks. I recommend using a light ink and very little of it. I actually have used a round wood toothpick instead of a brush to dab very small amounts of ink onto a white spot.

Paul
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:17 AM, jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi all


I'm printing with an EB6 configuration; even if I brush my paper before printing, sometimes I get some sort of flaking. Very small white spots appear. Since I'm not coating the print, can I retouch the old way with the inks?


Thanks


Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2015-08-02 by Jacques Caron

Thanks

These prints are made on Polar Matte (not a great paper for DMax) but the greyscale is OK. There's flaking from time to time.

I'll use my old retouch brush (0000) and I'll try the "toothpick" method for sure.

Thanks again.

Jacques

Jacques Caron
Photographe
jacques.caron@...



Le 2015-08-02 à 10:45, "Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
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> 
> What paper are you using?
> 
> You can retouch with inks.  I recommend using a light ink and very little of it.  I actually have used a round wood toothpick instead of a brush to dab very small amounts of ink onto a white spot.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:17 AM, jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>  
> 
> Hi all
> 
> 
> 
> I'm printing with an EB6 configuration; even if I brush my paper before printing, sometimes I get some sort of flaking. Very small white spots appear. Since I'm not coating the print, can I retouch the old way with the inks?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2015-08-02 by Paul Roark

BTW, Red River Polar Matte is getting a dmax of 1.7 with QTR and Eboni v.1.1 with the 3880. It's hitting 1.68 with ABW and that combo. So, with today's Eboni, it's doing very well in the dmax department.

Paul
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks


These prints are made on Polar Matte (not a great paper for DMax) but the greyscale is OK. There's flaking from time to time.

I'll use my old retouch brush (0000) and I'll try the "toothpick" method for sure.

Thanks again.

Jacques

Jacques Caron

Le 2015-08-02 à 10:45, "Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :


What paper are you using?

You can retouch with inks. I recommend using a light ink and very little of it. I actually have used a round wood toothpick instead of a brush to dab very small amounts of ink onto a white spot.

Paul

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:17 AM, jacques.caron@videotron.qc.ca [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi all


I'm printing with an EB6 configuration; even if I brush my paper before printing, sometimes I get some sort of flaking. Very small white spots appear. Since I'm not coating the print, can I retouch the old way with the inks?


Thanks






Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2015-08-02 by Richard Smallfield

I give it a go if I'm printing BW. It usually works.

Good luck,
Richard
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 at 1:17 am jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi all


I'm printing with an EB6 configuration; even if I brush my paper before printing, sometimes I get some sort of flaking. Very small white spots appear. Since I'm not coating the print, can I retouch the old way with the inks?


Thanks

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2015-08-04 by Jacques Caron

Hi

It works but one must be cautious since there is much less "tooth" (or a different one) in the paper to catch the ink.

I must say that it is harder than the old time because you have to wait a bit till the ink dry completely to assess the results.

Jacques


Jacques Caron
Photographe
jacques.caron@...



Le 2015-08-02 à 17:00, Richard Smallfield rwsmallfield@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
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> 
> I give it a go if I'm printing BW. It usually works.
> 
> Good luck,
> Richard
> 
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 at 1:17 am jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>  
> 
> Hi all
> 
> 
> 
> I'm printing with an EB6 configuration; even if I brush my paper before printing, sometimes I get some sort of flaking. Very small white spots appear. Since I'm not coating the print, can I retouch the old way with the inks?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] Flaking

2015-08-09 by Jacques Caron

Thanks for the info.

Made a new test with an almost linear profile and I'm hitting 1.66 with Eboni 1.1 on a 1430 on that paper.

Maybe I could get deeper blacks (?!?) but at the expense of getting also muddier "near black" tones.

Actually, the linear output is a good one so I can live with the DMax. As for retouching, it's quite easy but one must be aware of the drying time before judging.

Jacques

Jacques Caron
Photographe
jacques.caron@videotron.qc.ca



Le 2015-08-02 à 11:07, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
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> 
> BTW, Red River Polar Matte is getting a dmax of 1.7 with QTR and Eboni v.1.1 with the 3880.  It's hitting 1.68 with ABW and that combo.  So, with today's Eboni, it's doing very well in the dmax department.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>

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