Digital BW, The Print

On 1 Jul 2015, at 10:29 pm, Bharat Patel yoursnaps@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> HI,
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> I had leak problems with my Epson 1400 and MIS inks. I replace the printer and also the cartridges but problem continued. Then it dawn on me that I must be doing something wrong while filling the cartridges. Though it is important how to refill cartriges there is not enough emphasis on adhering to the process and one (someone like myself) tend to cut corners. With some trial and error I have managed to stop the leaks. So here is the process I use. It is important to follow the process.
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> 1. Leave the rubber bung on the air-vent in and fill ink through the refill hole.
> 2. Fill slowly to the top until there is only some space left. Try to avoid making bubble but there will be some anyway.
> 3. Leave the cartridge upright for a while and tap it to ensure there no bubbles trapped in the ink.
> 4. Put the refill hole rubber bung back in its place. Make sure this rubber bung fits tightly so that it does not let any air in.
> 5. Push a syringe with a plastic adaptor (one which is for sucking out ink from the cartridge) into the cartridge hole which will sit on the tray and suck out a few drops of the ink. I is important that the refill hole and air-vent have the rubber bungs in them when you do this. This will create a small pressure in the cartridge.
> 7. Cartridge preparation is ready. Now push the cartridge in its position on the tray.
> 8. Now and only now remove the air-vent bung.
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> I am not sure why but this seems to do the trick!
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> Just thought I will pass this on.
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> Bharat
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> On Jul 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, paulmwhiting@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Thanks, Jeff.
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> Of course! InkjetMall, why didn't I think of that. I know that site and have ordered empty refillable carts from them for my 1400. I first started refilling carts using supplies from MIS for my R1800 and they do recommend the adapter on a syringe to withdraw about 1cc of ink, and then insert the refill plug. The idea apparently was to create a slight vacuum in the cart and prevent leakage. The air vent remains open..
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> When I bought some carts from IJM on the other hand, their instructions do not mention withdrawing ink from the bottom of the cart.
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> I've not had leakage from either method. Hard to know who to believe! I tend to think withdrawing that 1cc is probably the best approach. Any leakage I've had (and I have had that happen) I attribute to worn out seals in the refill port on the bottom - then it's time for a new cartridge.
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> My $0.02,
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> Paul
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On 5 Jul 2015, at 9:17 am, 'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> If I recall correctly, IJM recommends replacing carts after about a year. If one buys OEM carts and inks then obviously the carts are replaced every time one buys new inks. So replacing refillable carts periodically seems very reasonable. 
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> Elliot
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, paulmwhiting@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks, Jeff.
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>> Of course! InkjetMall, why didn't I think of that. I know that site and have ordered empty refillable carts from them for my 1400. I first started refilling carts using supplies from MIS for my R1800 and they do recommend the adapter on a syringe to withdraw about 1cc of ink, and then insert the refill plug. The idea apparently was to create a slight vacuum in the cart and prevent leakage. The air vent remains open..
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>> When I bought some carts from IJM on the other hand, their instructions do not mention withdrawing ink from the bottom of the cart.
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>> I've not had leakage from either method. Hard to know who to believe! I tend to think withdrawing that 1cc is probably the best approach. Any leakage I've had (and I have had that happen) I attribute to worn out seals in the refill port on the bottom - then it's time for a new cartridge.
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>> My $0.02,
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>> Paul
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> On Jul 4, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Jeff Grant jeff.grant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I just don't understand how I could have had 4 sets of carts that all leaked or let in air. I guess that it points to the printer or operator error. I really want a printer that I can hibernate or easily swap inks so I'm thinking that another 1430 is the way to go. The printers with ink lines are just too expensive to run that way. Epson has done us no favours with the current printer selection.
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> I could look for a used printer but a quick perusal of the IJM forum, and my own experience with an old 2400 lead me to believe that new is the way to go with 3rd party inks.
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> Cheers,
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> Jeff 
> www.jeff-grant.com
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> Facebook: Jeff Grant Landscape Photographer
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>> On 5 Jul 2015, at 9:17 am, 'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> If I recall correctly, IJM recommends replacing carts after about a year. If one buys OEM carts and inks then obviously the carts are replaced every time one buys new inks. So replacing refillable carts periodically seems very reasonable. 
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>> Elliot
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jul 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, paulmwhiting@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>  
>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>> 
>>> Of course! InkjetMall, why didn't I think of that. I know that site and have ordered empty refillable carts from them for my 1400. I first started refilling carts using supplies from MIS for my R1800 and they do recommend the adapter on a syringe to withdraw about 1cc of ink, and then insert the refill plug. The idea apparently was to create a slight vacuum in the cart and prevent leakage. The air vent remains open..
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>>> When I bought some carts from IJM on the other hand, their instructions do not mention withdrawing ink from the bottom of the cart.
>>> 
>>> I've not had leakage from either method. Hard to know who to believe! I tend to think withdrawing that 1cc is probably the best approach. Any leakage I've had (and I have had that happen) I attribute to worn out seals in the refill port on the bottom - then it's time for a new cartridge.
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>>> My $0.02,
>>> 
>>> Paul
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On 6 Jul 2015, at 10:15 pm, paulmwhiting@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> Um, sorry, but what's "HK"?
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> Paul
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> On Jul 5, 2015, at 10:08 PM, jeff.grant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I've just ordered another 1430. I'm reminded of that old saying about madness being the doing of the same thing and expecting different results. I'll report back.  I have ordered a set of carts from HK and two sets of IJM Easyfills.
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> On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:49 AM, 'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> OK....Let's solve the problems... Before changing any carts would you mind printing 10 pages with the color inks?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 10:08 PM, jeff.grant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> I've just ordered another 1430. I'm reminded of that old saying about madness being the doing of the same thing and expecting different results. I'll report back.  I have ordered a set of carts from HK and two sets of IJM Easyfills.
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