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Hi everyone,I just got this baby and its amazing.I upgraded it to 2.0 OS and everything seems to be great except the data wheel control.When I turn it slowly it works fine , but when I try to go faster with turning, it jumps like creazy.For example, when I wanna sellect new pattern, and if I move it faster its gonna jump to like next bank and sometimes it will even go into opposite direction so I have to wheel  it realy slowly and I am afraid its gonna even be worse in the future. Is there a way to fix this or is it just a bug?Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks

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whats up man,                  yes i have  had that same problem but i think its just a bug  because it dose not act that way no more on mine,and i don't even have the os upgrade yet!

khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@...> wrote:Hi everyone,I just got this baby and its amazing.I upgraded it to 2.0 OS and everything seems to be great except the data wheel control.When I turn it slowly it works fine , but when I try to go faster with turning, it jumps like creazy.For example, when I wanna sellect new pattern, and if I move it faster its gonna jump to like next bank and sometimes it will even go into opposite direction so I have to wheel  it realy slowly and I am afraid its gonna even be worse in the future. Is there a way to fix this or is it just a bug?Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks

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Mine does this and I can tell you that in my unit it is a hardware, 
not a software problem.  I have ordered the replacement part which 
was about $10...  If you push down on it and turn you will have more 
luck.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi everyone,I just got this baby and its amazing.I upgraded it to 
2.0 OS and everything seems to be great except the data wheel 
control.When I turn it slowly it works fine , but when I try to go 
faster with turning, it jumps like creazy.For example, when I wanna 
sellect new pattern, and if I move it faster its gonna jump to like 
next bank and sometimes it will even go into opposite direction so I 
have to wheel  it realy slowly and I am afraid its gonna even be 
worse in the future. Is there a way to fix this or is it just a bug?
Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks

> 
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When you push it down it does work better, also if the mashine is on for long time  it works better.Thanks guys for your replies. I guess its just the nature of the beast.

David DeciBel <spec@...> wrote:Mine does this and I can tell you that in my unit it is a hardware, 
not a software problem.  I have ordered the replacement part which 
was about $10...  If you push down on it and turn you will have more 
luck.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi everyone,I just got this baby and its amazing.I upgraded it to 
2.0 OS and everything seems to be great except the data wheel 
control.When I turn it slowly it works fine , but when I try to go 
faster with turning, it jumps like creazy.For example, when I wanna 
sellect new pattern, and if I move it faster its gonna jump to like 
next bank and sometimes it will even go into opposite direction so I 
have to wheel  it realy slowly and I am afraid its gonna even be 
worse in the future. Is there a way to fix this or is it just a bug?
Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks
> 
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I have exactly the same problem. Yes, I even got my XL-7 repleaced by 
another one, but after a while it got the same problem again.

Since so many have has this problem, I believe it's something about 
the hardware. Perhaps not absolutley the best hardware components... 
If anyone finds a solution, please tell me about it.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...> 
wrote:
> When you push it down it does work better, also if the mashine is 
on for long time  it works better.Thanks guys for your replies. I 
guess its just the nature of the beast.
> 
> David DeciBel <spec@s...> wrote:Mine does this and I can tell you 
that in my unit it is a hardware, 
> not a software problem.  I have ordered the replacement part which 
> was about $10...  If you push down on it and turn you will have 
more 
> luck.
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,I just got this baby and its amazing.I upgraded it to 
> 2.0 OS and everything seems to be great except the data wheel 
> control.When I turn it slowly it works fine , but when I try to go 
> faster with turning, it jumps like creazy.For example, when I wanna 
> sellect new pattern, and if I move it faster its gonna jump to like 
> next bank and sometimes it will even go into opposite direction so 
I 
> have to wheel  it realy slowly and I am afraid its gonna even be 
> worse in the future. Is there a way to fix this or is it just a bug?
> Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks
> > 
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The problem is oxidization I believe, this problem is typical on rotory knobs.
Unless someone knows differently (Aaron??) this is fixable by using an
antioxidizer, like DeOxit which works like a charm.  On a side note, NEVER use a
product like this on the grease packed knobs, it will dissolve the grease and
make your knob move too easily.  If the data wheel is an optical component (some
types are) there is less chance of easily fixing it.

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: nifflas [mailto:nifflas@...]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:15 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Data wheel going mad!


I have exactly the same problem. Yes, I even got my XL-7 repleaced by
another one, but after a while it got the same problem again.

Since so many have has this problem, I believe it's something about
the hardware. Perhaps not absolutley the best hardware components...
If anyone finds a solution, please tell me about it.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...>
wrote:
> When you push it down it does work better, also if the mashine is
on for long time  it works better.Thanks guys for your replies. I
guess its just the nature of the beast.
>
> David DeciBel <spec@s...> wrote:Mine does this and I can tell you
that in my unit it is a hardware,
> not a software problem.  I have ordered the replacement part which
> was about $10...  If you push down on it and turn you will have
more
> luck.
>
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,I just got this baby and its amazing.I upgraded it to
> 2.0 OS and everything seems to be great except the data wheel
> control.When I turn it slowly it works fine , but when I try to go
> faster with turning, it jumps like creazy.For example, when I wanna
> sellect new pattern, and if I move it faster its gonna jump to like
> next bank and sometimes it will even go into opposite direction so
I
> have to wheel  it realy slowly and I am afraid its gonna even be
> worse in the future. Is there a way to fix this or is it just a bug?
> Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks
> >
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The skipping knob problem is caused by oxidation. After reading some 
earlier posts I tried DeOxit (what did I have to loose?) with great 
results. Simply power off the unit, remove the knob, spray a small 
amount into the encoder and spin the encoder for a while. The 
encoder now works better than new.

I also used some moving contact lubricant (MCL) in an attempt to 
return the smooth feel and help prevent this problem returning. The 
feel is good but I will have to report back on any protective 
qualities in a few months.


Ezra


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> The problem is oxidization I believe, this problem is typical on 
rotory knobs.
> Unless someone knows differently (Aaron??) this is fixable by 
using an
> antioxidizer, like DeOxit which works like a charm.  On a side 
note, NEVER use a
> product like this on the grease packed knobs, it will dissolve the 
grease and
> make your knob move too easily.  If the data wheel is an optical 
component (some

> types are) there is less chance of easily fixing it.
> 
> Andre
>

antioxidizer is deffenitly something I might wanna use, only if i knew  where to get it in the us.Can someone please give me a clue?
 
thanks

Ezra Gold <ezra_gold@...> wrote: 
The skipping knob problem is caused by oxidation. After reading some 
earlier posts I tried DeOxit (what did I have to loose?) with great 
results. Simply power off the unit, remove the knob, spray a small 
amount into the encoder and spin the encoder for a while. The 
encoder now works better than new.

I also used some moving contact lubricant (MCL) in an attempt to 
return the smooth feel and help prevent this problem returning. The 
feel is good but I will have to report back on any protective 
qualities in a few months.


Ezra


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> The problem is oxidization I believe, this problem is typical on 
rotory knobs.
> Unless someone knows differently (Aaron??) this is fixable by 
using an
> antioxidizer, like DeOxit which works like a charm.  On a side 
note, NEVER use a
> product like this on the grease packed knobs, it will dissolve the 
grease and
> make your knob move too easily.  If the data wheel is an optical 
component (some
> types are) there is less chance of easily fixing it.
> 
> Andre
> 



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radio shack

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...> 
wrote:
> antioxidizer is deffenitly something I might wanna use, only if i 
knew  where to get it in the us.Can someone please give me a clue?
>  
> thanks
> 
> Ezra Gold <ezra_gold@y...> wrote: 
> The skipping knob problem is caused by oxidation. After reading 
some 
> earlier posts I tried DeOxit (what did I have to loose?) with great 
> results. Simply power off the unit, remove the knob, spray a small 
> amount into the encoder and spin the encoder for a while. The 
> encoder now works better than new.
> 
> I also used some moving contact lubricant (MCL) in an attempt to 
> return the smooth feel and help prevent this problem returning. The 
> feel is good but I will have to report back on any protective 
> qualities in a few months.
> 
> 
> Ezra
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> > The problem is oxidization I believe, this problem is typical on 
> rotory knobs.
> > Unless someone knows differently (Aaron??) this is fixable by 
> using an
> > antioxidizer, like DeOxit which works like a charm.  On a side 
> note, NEVER use a
> > product like this on the grease packed knobs, it will dissolve 
the 
> grease and
> > make your knob move too easily.  If the data wheel is an optical 
> component (some
> > types are) there is less chance of easily fixing it.
> > 
> > Andre
> > 
> 
> 
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antioxidizer deffinetly worked.Thank you guys for your help
 
nermin

David DeciBel <spec@...> wrote:
radio shack

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, khjkkkkk khjkhjk <extra_mayo79@y...> 
wrote:
> antioxidizer is deffenitly something I might wanna use, only if i 
knew  where to get it in the us.Can someone please give me a clue?
>  
> thanks
> 
> Ezra Gold <ezra_gold@y...> wrote: 
> The skipping knob problem is caused by oxidation. After reading 
some 
> earlier posts I tried DeOxit (what did I have to loose?) with great 
> results. Simply power off the unit, remove the knob, spray a small 
> amount into the encoder and spin the encoder for a while. The 
> encoder now works better than new.
> 
> I also used some moving contact lubricant (MCL) in an attempt to 
> return the smooth feel and help prevent this problem returning. The 
> feel is good but I will have to report back on any protective 
> qualities in a few months.
> 
> 
> Ezra
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> > The problem is oxidization I believe, this problem is typical on 
> rotory knobs.
> > Unless someone knows differently (Aaron??) this is fixable by 
> using an
> > antioxidizer, like DeOxit which works like a charm.  On a side 
> note, NEVER use a
> > product like this on the grease packed knobs, it will dissolve 
the 
> grease and
> > make your knob move too easily.  If the data wheel is an optical 
> component (some
> > types are) there is less chance of easily fixing it.
> > 
> > Andre
> > 
> 
> 
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