Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

well i was working like a dog all weekend to finish this track and 
wile i was putting the finishing bits in place I saved the pattern. 
 
No worning at all the XL7 crashed and I lost all my patterns as well 
as all my presets.  I have some of it backed up mind you but the 
presets are gone for good.

This is the exact reason I spent 2000.00 bucks on the XL.  I was 
sick of computer crashes.  It is times like this that I feel like a 
fool for spending my cash and investing my energy in the wrighting 
of electronic music.  I truly wish computers and synths where 
actualy more reliable than people.  But i guess that will never 
happen as long as it is people that are building the boxes.

Well like some one said just a little wile back.  

BACK UP YOUR MUSIC.

P.S.  can some one tell me if there is a way to back up presets ?


Mike G.

Peace Mike sorry to here bout ur data loss
Yeah u can back up presets by

midi/send midi sysex data/bank1 presets etc


Hope this helps

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:41:14 -0000, you wrote:

>well i was working like a dog all weekend to finish this track and 
>wile i was putting the finishing bits in place I saved the pattern. 
> 
>No worning at all the XL7 crashed and I lost all my patterns as well 
>as all my presets.  I have some of it backed up mind you but the 
>presets are gone for good.
>
>This is the exact reason I spent 2000.00 bucks on the XL.  I was 
>sick of computer crashes.  It is times like this that I feel like a 
>fool for spending my cash and investing my energy in the wrighting 
>of electronic music.  I truly wish computers and synths where 
>actualy more reliable than people.  But i guess that will never 
>happen as long as it is people that are building the boxes.
>
>Well like some one said just a little wile back.  
>
>BACK UP YOUR MUSIC.
>
>P.S.  can some one tell me if there is a way to back up presets ?
>
>
>Mike G.
>
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Thanks for the info.  I take it i record the info to my computer 
sequencer?

I want to start sequencing off my computer again, at least for a 
wile.  And now that I can restore my XL to its shiped state with out 
loosing anything.  How do i get this thing to be sequenced off a PC?

I was trying to do this for quite a wile today and got no where.  

Any advice would be great.

Thanks 

Mike G.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Silverman <oort@b...> wrote:
> Peace Mike sorry to here bout ur data loss
> Yeah u can back up presets by
> 
> midi/send midi sysex data/bank1 presets etc
> 
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:41:14 -0000, you wrote:
> 
> >well i was working like a dog all weekend to finish this track 
and 
> >wile i was putting the finishing bits in place I saved the 
pattern. 
> > 
> >No worning at all the XL7 crashed and I lost all my patterns as 
well 
> >as all my presets.  I have some of it backed up mind you but the 
> >presets are gone for good.
> >
> >This is the exact reason I spent 2000.00 bucks on the XL.  I was 
> >sick of computer crashes.  It is times like this that I feel like 
a 
> >fool for spending my cash and investing my energy in the 
wrighting 
> >of electronic music.  I truly wish computers and synths where 
> >actualy more reliable than people.  But i guess that will never 
> >happen as long as it is people that are building the boxes.
> >
> >Well like some one said just a little wile back.  
> >
> >BACK UP YOUR MUSIC.
> >
> >P.S.  can some one tell me if there is a way to back up presets ?
> >
> >
> >Mike G.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > 
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> >

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:19:43 -0000, you wrote:

>Thanks for the info.  I take it i record the info to my computer 
>sequencer?

Yeah make sure u have no sysex filters on in midi chain
>
>I want to start sequencing off my computer again, at least for a 
>wile.  And now that I can restore my XL to its shiped state with out 
>loosing anything.  How do i get this thing to be sequenced off a PC?
I take u mean synchronised,ie get logic to send midi clock?
turn MP7 base tempo to 0 under the midi menu and it should 
sync to Xternal clock
U can set logic to transmit under options/song settings /sync........
>I was trying to do this for quite a wile today and got no where. 
Personally I prefer getting patterns from E-loader!  running 2
sequencers together is normally a pain in the arse and at least 
u keep ur data in 2 locations :))

>
>Any advice would be great.
>
>Thanks 
>
>Mike G.
>
>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Silverman <oort@b...> wrote:
>> Peace Mike sorry to here bout ur data loss
>> Yeah u can back up presets by
>> 
>> midi/send midi sysex data/bank1 presets etc
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:41:14 -0000, you wrote:
>> 
>> >well i was working like a dog all weekend to finish this track 
>and 
>> >wile i was putting the finishing bits in place I saved the 
>pattern. 
>> > 
>> >No worning at all the XL7 crashed and I lost all my patterns as 
>well 
>> >as all my presets.  I have some of it backed up mind you but the 
>> >presets are gone for good.
>> >
>> >This is the exact reason I spent 2000.00 bucks on the XL.  I was 
>> >sick of computer crashes.  It is times like this that I feel like 
>a 
>> >fool for spending my cash and investing my energy in the 
>wrighting 
>> >of electronic music.  I truly wish computers and synths where 
>> >actualy more reliable than people.  But i guess that will never 
>> >happen as long as it is people that are building the boxes.
>> >
>> >Well like some one said just a little wile back.  
>> >
>> >BACK UP YOUR MUSIC.
>> >
>> >P.S.  can some one tell me if there is a way to back up presets ?
>> >
>> >
>> >Mike G.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> >xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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>> > 
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1 more thought on sysex


Try too be organized about using this method to back up presets!
As re-sending sysex banks to the mp7 will wipe current machine 
state banks


Naughty naughty very very naughty:)))
>

>well i was working like a dog all weekend to finish this track and
>wile i was putting the finishing bits in place I saved the pattern.
>
>No worning at all the XL7 crashed and I lost all my patterns as well
>as all my presets.  I have some of it backed up mind you but the
>presets are gone for good.
>
>This is the exact reason I spent 2000.00 bucks on the XL.  I was
>sick of computer crashes.

Yikes!

Okay, I bought the box for its sounds rather than sequencing, but I've been
suckered in by the nifty interface and have put a LOT of patterns in there.

And I was just getting around to doing my own presets.


If you'll pardon my ghoulish interest, what version of the operating system
were you on?  And what were you doing just as the thing crashed?  A pattern
save?  Anything funky, MIDI-wise?



Also, this shows WHY we need a decent host-machine-based patch
editor/librarian for this beast!

And some sort of full system backup would be nice, too.  I mean, something
that when loaded back onto a virgin system would put you back exactly where
you were.  (Assuming you have the same ROMs in the same positions.)  It
wouldn't have to be pretty, just a pair of buttons within Eloader.
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mikexl7" <curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> well i was working like a dog all weekend to finish this track and 
> wile i was putting the finishing bits in place I saved the pattern. 
>  
> No worning at all the XL7 crashed and I lost all my patterns as 
well 
> as all my presets.  I have some of it backed up mind you but the 
> presets are gone for good.
> 

OUCH... condolences.  That's the kind of incident that makes you want 
to set all your gear on fire and take up the Amish faith...

You know, I just bought an XL-7 and I've done a LOT of research into 
it... and I was convinced it was a solid box... but this kind of 
makes me a little skittish.  Seriously, if this happened to me, I 
would very likely end up with a big pile of smashed bits that USED to 
be an XL-7.

I understand that sometimes things like this happen... but PLEASE 
tell me its a very UNcommon occurrence...

Again, condolences to you... I know this is really half assed, but 
hey, now you can begin fresh and make newer, cooler stuff :)

Ya i was thinking about that one, one has to be thoughtfull about 
these things.

Dam I am starting to regain my cool after yesterdays crash, I think 
at this point I can say that I have learned my lesson once and for 
all.  Funny how these things take a wile to sink in.  Maby I am just 
a little slow in that way.  I am going to have the USB of this thing 
permently pluged into a computer from here on in.  Save stuff at the 
end of each serious day of work.  

It's not like breaking into the music market place is not hard 
enough with out loosing all your work evry few months.

Mike G.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Silverman <oort@b...> wrote:

> 
>  1 more thought on sysex
> 
> 
> Try too be organized about using this method to back up presets!
> As re-sending sysex banks to the mp7 will wipe current machine 
> state banks
> 
> 
> Naughty naughty very very naughty:)))
> >

Good to c u have recovered your composure mike:)

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:25:16 -0000, you wrote:



>Ya i was thinking about that one, one has to be thoughtfull about 
>these things.
>
>Dam I am starting to regain my cool after yesterdays crash, I think 
>at this point I can say that I have learned my lesson once and for 
>all.  Funny how these things take a wile to sink in.  Maby I am just 
>a little slow in that way.  I am going to have the USB of this thing 
>permently pluged into a computer from here on in.  Save stuff at the 
>end of each serious day of work.  
>
>It's not like breaking into the music market place is not hard 
>enough with out loosing all your work evry few months.
>
I know what u mean, its enough to make u throw ur tech stuff
out the window, take up the acoustic guitar and start singing
songs about the good lord in the park :))

Peace Harmony Unity


Silverman