Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hi all,

Well, I pulled the trigger and purchased an XL-7 from e-bay. 
Cosmetically, it's in very nice condition but as I started reading 
the manual and finding my way around I noticed that some things 
didn't seem quite right.

1. An apparent lack of patterns and songs. Looks like these may have 
been deleted by the previous owner.

2. Demo song screen not available. OK, I hate Demo songs as much as 
the next person but the manual says that if I hold down the Song and 
Pattern buttons at the same time I should see a demo song screen. 
When I do this I don't see the screen shown in the manual. There is 
no mention of a demo song. This is a minor annoyance because things 
just aren't as they should be.

So, my questions are:

1. I've downloaded the Songs and Patterns zip file from E-Mu's 
website, together with e-loader. If I hook this up to a USB cable can 
I just copy (download) these back to the unit ? The e-loader manual 
makes this seem like a drag and drop operation. Is there any 
special 'magic' to this or things I need to be careful of ?

2. Is it possible to delete/restore the demo song, or am I just not 
doing something right ?

I really want to get into this thing and start playing around with 
it, so it's quite frustrating to me that things are not where they 
should be. I have many other synths (a Triton, JD-800, K2000 and 
several other E-Mu's), so I'm not frightened by the thought of 
updating/modifying the internal settings.

Thanks so much in advance for any assistance you can offer.

Best regards,
Mark

hi and welcome,
I to recentlypurchased an xl-7 and am still getting around some of its quirks i recomend 
turning on the machine while holding the 2 curser buttons down and running some tests 
make sure to have a midi cable plugged into midi in and out for the loopback test and test 
it in auto test mode then do a reset all data function suppose you could do it in the other 
order...this should put your concerns about getting a faulty unit to rest....when the demo 
songs are gone there gono...kind of a nice feature i think that seperates this box from alot 
of other groovebox garbage...hate having tons of terrible preset patterns taking up 
space...although i think you can get the files and transfer them back to the box via midi...
enjoy your machine man....i've had tons of gear as well and have had nothing as remotely 
cool as this beast it is sure to go down in music gear history and fetch mad$$$$$$in the 
not to distant future...hope i was remotely helpful let me know if ii can help with anything 
else
cheers
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "spot_lizard" <thelizardbloke@...> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
> 
> Well, I pulled the trigger and purchased an XL-7 from e-bay. 
> Cosmetically, it's in very nice condition but as I started reading 
> the manual and finding my way around I noticed that some things 
> didn't seem quite right.
> 
> 1. An apparent lack of patterns and songs. Looks like these may have 
> been deleted by the previous owner.
> 
> 2. Demo song screen not available. OK, I hate Demo songs as much as 
> the next person but the manual says that if I hold down the Song and 
> Pattern buttons at the same time I should see a demo song screen. 
> When I do this I don't see the screen shown in the manual. There is 
> no mention of a demo song. This is a minor annoyance because things 
> just aren't as they should be.
> 
> So, my questions are:
> 
> 1. I've downloaded the Songs and Patterns zip file from E-Mu's 
> website, together with e-loader. If I hook this up to a USB cable can 
> I just copy (download) these back to the unit ? The e-loader manual 
> makes this seem like a drag and drop operation. Is there any 
> special 'magic' to this or things I need to be careful of ?
> 
> 2. Is it possible to delete/restore the demo song, or am I just not 
> doing something right ?
> 
> I really want to get into this thing and start playing around with 
> it, so it's quite frustrating to me that things are not where they 
> should be. I have many other synths (a Triton, JD-800, K2000 and 
> several other E-Mu's), so I'm not frightened by the thought of 
> updating/modifying the internal settings.
> 
> Thanks so much in advance for any assistance you can offer.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mark
>

Hi Z,

Thanks for the suggestions. I went through the self tests and 
everything checks out fine.

Now my next problem is getting the songs and patterns back into the 
unit via e-loader.

XP SP2 does not recognize the XL-7 via MIDI. It seems to require 
special drivers. Since I did not get any when I purchased it does 
anyone know if they are available for download ?

Worst case scenario I could use MIDI, but since USB is easy and 
convenient I'd like to start there if I could.

Cheers,
Mark

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zombilimited" <zombilimited@...> wrote:
>
> hi and welcome,
> I to recentlypurchased an xl-7 and am still getting around some of 
its quirks i recomend 
> turning on the machine while holding the 2 curser buttons down and 
running some tests 
> make sure to have a midi cable plugged into midi in and out for the 
loopback test and test 
> it in auto test mode then do a reset all data function suppose you 
could do it in the other 
> order...this should put your concerns about getting a faulty unit 
to rest....when the demo 
> songs are gone there gono...kind of a nice feature i think that 
seperates this box from alot 
> of other groovebox garbage...hate having tons of terrible preset 
patterns taking up 
> space...although i think you can get the files and transfer them 
back to the box via midi...
> enjoy your machine man....i've had tons of gear as well and have 
had nothing as remotely 
> cool as this beast it is sure to go down in music gear history and 
fetch mad$$$$$$in the 
> not to distant future...hope i was remotely helpful let me know if 
ii can help with anything 
> else
> cheers

For some reason, the e-loader version I downloaded corrupted the USB 
driver folder, so the drivers were not where they were supposed to 
be. I thought I was done for, since I didn't have a CD with any 
drivers on, so I downloaded e-loader again and installed it in a 
different partition. That worked ! I can now see the drivers.

Thanks everyone !
Mark

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "spot_lizard" <thelizardbloke@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Z,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions. I went through the self tests and 
> everything checks out fine.
> 
> Now my next problem is getting the songs and patterns back into the 
> unit via e-loader.
> 
> XP SP2 does not recognize the XL-7 via MIDI. It seems to require 
> special drivers. Since I did not get any when I purchased it does 
> anyone know if they are available for download ?
> 
> Worst case scenario I could use MIDI, but since USB is easy and 
> convenient I'd like to start there if I could.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark

Hi Mark,

noob here as well on the CS. Where did you find the eloader software?
couldn't find it anywhere :(

cy

> Hi all,
> 
> Well, I pulled the trigger and purchased an XL-7 from e-bay. 
> Cosmetically, it's in very nice condition but as I started reading 
> the manual and finding my way around I noticed that some things 
> didn't seem quite right.
> 
> 1. An apparent lack of patterns and songs. Looks like these may have 
> been deleted by the previous owner.
> 
> 2. Demo song screen not available. OK, I hate Demo songs as much as 
> the next person but the manual says that if I hold down the Song and 
> Pattern buttons at the same time I should see a demo song screen. 
> When I do this I don't see the screen shown in the manual. There is 
> no mention of a demo song. This is a minor annoyance because things 
> just aren't as they should be.
> 
> So, my questions are:
> 
> 1. I've downloaded the Songs and Patterns zip file from E-Mu's 
> website, together with e-loader. If I hook this up to a USB cable can 
> I just copy (download) these back to the unit ? The e-loader manual 
> makes this seem like a drag and drop operation. Is there any 
> special 'magic' to this or things I need to be careful of ?
> 
> 2. Is it possible to delete/restore the demo song, or am I just not 
> doing something right ?
> 
> I really want to get into this thing and start playing around with 
> it, so it's quite frustrating to me that things are not where they 
> should be. I have many other synths (a Triton, JD-800, K2000 and 
> several other E-Mu's), so I'm not frightened by the thought of 
> updating/modifying the internal settings.
> 
> Thanks so much in advance for any assistance you can offer.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mark
>