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do i have to hand make arps? can i load them or record them as midi 
files into the mp7?

You can send a sysex of arps to your E-Mu.  I have seen one for the 
TCSY rom floating around.  You can also get different arps that come 
with some of the roms.

But, I would encourage you to try making your own arps.  It is not 
that difficult. Try a short cut to start:

1. Make a very simple percussion pattern in arp form.
2. Vary extension and interval.

Once you've done that, make another one that jives with the first 
one. (Extension and interval need not be the same as the 1st one.) 
Make more.

I believe someone wrote procedures here a few years ago on how to 
set up polyrhythms with different time signatures using overlapping 
arps. (I tried it at the time, but never got back to it.)

I haven't heard your music, but it might work for your style.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

PS: So far as I know, there are no repositories of user developed 
arp banks. Also, a few years ago someone started work on a midi-to-
arp conversion program (or was it the other way around?). As I 
recall, it worked as long as you didn't violate any ofthe rules. (I 
don't recall a version after the 1st or 2nd beta version. It may 
still be in Files.)


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> do i have to hand make arps? can i load them or record them as 
midi 
> files into the mp7?

Yup; I recalled correctly. It was done by Kevin Johnson and its in the 
Apps folder.  Hope it works for you.  I seem to recall a readme file. 
If you use the program, make sure you don't violate any of the rules.

And since it represents a labor of love that must have taken a bit of 
time and was generously given away, don't expect it to (1) be perfect 
or (2) have the polish of commercially released software.  If its 
helpful, great.  If not, perhaps with your knowledge of C++ you can 
improve it.

Hope this helps.

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:

> . . . a few years ago someone started work on a midi-to-
> arp conversion program (or was it the other way around?). As I 
> recall, it worked as long as you didn't violate any of the rules. (I 
> don't recall a version after the 1st or 2nd beta version. It may 
> still be in Files.)

cool thanks again steve! i'll have a look at it.
and regarding you last message, i have made my own arps before and i 
like being able to control what  my arps sound like but the main 
reason i want to know is for triggering drumloops :)


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> Yup; I recalled correctly. It was done by Kevin Johnson and its in 
the 
> Apps folder.  Hope it works for you.  I seem to recall a readme 
file. 
> If you use the program, make sure you don't violate any of the 
rules.
> 
> And since it represents a labor of love that must have taken a bit 
of 
> time and was generously given away, don't expect it to (1) be 
perfect 
> or (2) have the polish of commercially released software.  If its 
> helpful, great.  If not, perhaps with your knowledge of C++ you 
can 
> improve it.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
> 
> > . . . a few years ago someone started work on a midi-to-
> > arp conversion program (or was it the other way around?). As I 
> > recall, it worked as long as you didn't violate any of the 
rules. (I 
> > don't recall a version after the 1st or 2nd beta version. It may 
> > still be in Files.)

aaron what part did you have in the coding? i would like to try to 
make this!!

i'm a newb programmer but this  would be great to have. and i have a 
few midi programming kits.

it's sad that he lost the source to this app!!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> cool thanks again steve! i'll have a look at it.
> and regarding you last message, i have made my own arps before and 
i 
> like being able to control what  my arps sound like but the main 
> reason i want to know is for triggering drumloops :)
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
> wrote:
> > Yup; I recalled correctly. It was done by Kevin Johnson and its 
in 
> the 
> > Apps folder.  Hope it works for you.  I seem to recall a readme 
> file. 
> > If you use the program, make sure you don't violate any of the 
> rules.
> > 
> > And since it represents a labor of love that must have taken a 
bit 
> of 
> > time and was generously given away, don't expect it to (1) be 
> perfect 
> > or (2) have the polish of commercially released software.  If 
its 
> > helpful, great.  If not, perhaps with your knowledge of C++ you 
> can 
> > improve it.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > --Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
> > 
> > > . . . a few years ago someone started work on a midi-to-
> > > arp conversion program (or was it the other way around?). As I 
> > > recall, it worked as long as you didn't violate any of the 
> rules. (I 
> > > don't recall a version after the 1st or 2nd beta version. It 
may 
> > > still be in Files.)

says at the bottom of the readme that i can email him so i ill try now

Hello, I see that I'm not the only one to use arp for make rythm. But I have never make extension or interval because of the fact that the percussion kit don't allaw you to make this ( The kick is always on the C C# the snare on D E F the toms on G A B and the charley on F# G# etc...it may varie with différents kit ). So the arp may be long for 1 2 or 3 bar at max ( because of the 32 steps of the arp that is already not very so bad )
 
So my question is:
Do you make a 12 interval arp or do make your own preset using tunning and transpose to recycle your arp rythm? Perhaps you use this only for percussion. 
 
Thanks. 


But, I would encourage you to try making your own arps.  It is not 
that difficult. Try a short cut to start:

1. Make a very simple percussion pattern in arp form.
2. Vary extension and interval.

Once you've done that, make another one that jives with the first 
one. (Extension and interval need not be the same as the 1st one.) 
Make more.

I believe someone wrote procedures here a few years ago on how to 
set up polyrhythms with different time signatures using overlapping 
arps. (I tried it at the time, but never got back to it.)


		
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, BEAUFILS Adrien <fatalojyxvsfacial@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Hello, I see that I'm not the only one to use arp for make rythm. 

I'd be interested to hear some of your techniques for creating/using 
arps.

> But I have never make extension or interval because of the fact 
that the percussion kit don't allaw you to make this ( The kick is 
always on the C C# the snare on D E F the toms on G A B and the 
charley on F# G# etc...it may varie with différents kit ). So the 
arp may be long for 1 2 or 3 bar at max ( because of the 32 steps of 
the arp that is already not very so bad )

You are right; the drum map stays the same. The effect that I get 
with extensions is this: the rhythm is played of different 
instruments with each extension. Here's a simple example:

Let's say with a 1 measure arp the basic arp is kick and snare.
Then I extend it once so now the same rhythm is on toms.
(plus other possible extensions--rhythm 1 played on other 
instruments.

I can then make another arp that has a different rhythm--perhaps 
kick and snare on the 2nd extension.

Basically I am overlapping arps.
 
> So my question is:
> Do you make a 12 interval arp or do make your own preset using 
tunning and transpose to recycle your arp rythm? Perhaps you use 
this only for percussion. 

Yes, I have only used this method for percussion.

BTW: here are links to posts on the issue of creating polyrhythms 
using arps of different lengths.

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/10965

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/10995

--Steve

>  
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> But, I would encourage you to try making your own arps.  It is not 
> that difficult. Try a short cut to start:
> 
> 1. Make a very simple percussion pattern in arp form.
> 2. Vary extension and interval.
> 
> Once you've done that, make another one that jives with the first 
> one. (Extension and interval need not be the same as the 1st one.) 
> Make more.
> 
> I believe someone wrote procedures here a few years ago on how to 
> set up polyrhythms with different time signatures using 
overlapping 
> arps. (I tried it at the time, but never got back to it.)
> 
> 
> 		
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what im trying to do is to get midi to play some slices i have in rcg-
audio sfz. you can use it to play samples mapped to midi notes. i'm 
using it in the same way you would use a drum loop in recycle.

i did what you said and took some time to edit the arp exactly like 
the midi file but when i had auditioned it it didnt sound right.

i set the i made the keyrange from c1 to g#1 where the notes are 
triggered from. then i made the keys go from 0 to +9 cause the notes 
are all 1/8 notes in length but 7 and 8 are 1/16th notes. in a one bar 
loop.

but what i get when i play it back is something totaly different. i 
have the patter at 00 bank 0  and have it set to master like the 
manual says so i can hear it while im editing but this is not it.

also if i am not in arp mode i see msb 15 lsb 00 i guess thats the 
sysex parameter for the arp?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, BEAUFILS Adrien <fatalojyxvsfacial@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> 
> > But I have never make extension or interval because of the fact 
> that the percussion kit don't allaw you to make this ( The kick is 
> always on the C C# the snare on D E F the toms on G A B and the 
> charley on F# G# etc...it may varie with différents kit ). So the 
> arp may be long for 1 2 or 3 bar at max ( because of the 32 steps of 
> the arp that is already not very so bad )

If you use PRESET>EDIT>TRANSPOSE you can move the kit up and down the
keyboard chromatically

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, BEAUFILS Adrien <fatalojyxvsfacial@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> 
> > But I have never make extension or interval because of the fact 
> that the percussion kit don't allaw you to make this ( The kick is 
> always on the C C# the snare on D E F the toms on G A B and the 
> charley on F# G# etc...it may varie with différents kit ). So the 
> arp may be long for 1 2 or 3 bar at max ( because of the 32 steps of 
> the arp that is already not very so bad )

If you use PRESET>EDIT>TRANSPOSE you can move the kit up and down the
keyboard chromatically




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