Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I just picked up my XL-7 yesterday and have been tinkering with it 
all day.  No probs so far but haven't started a project yet so I'll 
save my opinions for later.  But one thing that a friend who owns an 
XL-1 pointed out was that they do not appear to contain the same 
preset banks.  There's some overlap but many differences.  Granted I 
assumed the XL-7 came with the XL-1 preset ROMs so I have only myself 
to blame for the confusion.  But why are they partially different?  
Was there some kind of sound incompatibility or something?

Also I heard a disturbing rumor from not one but two seperate 
equipment dealers yesterday.  When I went to dealer A to pick up the 
unit the guy (who is usually very knowledgable about these things) 
told me he had sold out and had no plans to reorder because E-MU was 
discontinuing the product.  Scratching my head (news to me) I went 
down the road to national chain dealer B who had one remaining in 
stock.  I was told I was lucky because according to their database 
they had no plans to reorder.  When I asked why he said they usually 
only see that when a product is being discontinued.  !!  What's up 
with that???  Is this true??  Please tell me I didn't just sink a 
grand into a machine that's going to have no support in a year.

Cheers,

Qwanta

On Sunday, January 13, 2002, at 07:57  PM, qwanta wrote:

> Also I heard a disturbing rumor from not one but two seperate
> equipment dealers yesterday.  When I went to dealer A to pick up the
> unit the guy (who is usually very knowledgable about these things)
> told me he had sold out and had no plans to reorder because E-MU was
> discontinuing the product.  Scratching my head (news to me) I went
> down the road to national chain dealer B who had one remaining in
> stock.  I was told I was lucky because according to their database
> they had no plans to reorder.  When I asked why he said they usually
> only see that when a product is being discontinued.  !!  What's up
> with that???  Is this true??  Please tell me I didn't just sink a
> grand into a machine that's going to have no support in a year.

Sounds like the two dealers in your area are both suffering from some 
kind of mental illness. I would wear a surgical mask the next time I 
went into their stores if I were you.

Scott

PS: If you would like to privately send me the names of those dealers I 
would be glad to notify the authorities  about the possibility of some 
kind of toxic outbreak in your area.

Hey, Scott, heavy arms!

But you didnt answer the original question: Yes or no? (no, I´m not 
infected..;-)) I didn´t expect you to reply to a distribution and 
sales subject anyway, but if you do so, please go further. I bought 
th mp-7 in Germany 5 or 6 weeks ago, my dealer gave me his demo box. 
Since then we are waiting for the new box, that should have 
arrived "in a few days" time according to emu. Strange but no problem 
since I can use the demo box. 
 
Heinrich
who is appreciating your support on this site!

PS: Anyone who can tell for sure if the mp-7/xl-7 has the same 
engine/processsor power as the proteus 2500. I know this has been 
discussed before but I did not find a final answer to this as the PR 
information and some postings here tell a different story.


--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> On Sunday, January 13, 2002, at 07:57  PM, qwanta wrote:
> 
> > Also I heard a disturbing rumor from not one but two seperate
> > equipment dealers yesterday.  When I went to dealer A to pick up 
the
> > unit the guy (who is usually very knowledgable about these things)
> > told me he had sold out and had no plans to reorder because E-MU 
was
> > discontinuing the product.  Scratching my head (news to me) I went
> > down the road to national chain dealer B who had one remaining in
> > stock.  I was told I was lucky because according to their database
> > they had no plans to reorder.  When I asked why he said they 
usually
> > only see that when a product is being discontinued.  !!  What's up
> > with that???  Is this true??  Please tell me I didn't just sink a
> > grand into a machine that's going to have no support in a year.
> 
> Sounds like the two dealers in your area are both suffering from 
some 
> kind of mental illness. I would wear a surgical mask the next time 
I 
> went into their stores if I were you.
> 
> Scott
> 
> PS: If you would like to privately send me the names of those 
dealers I 
> would be glad to notify the authorities  about the possibility of 
some 
> kind of toxic outbreak in your area.

> PS: Anyone who can tell for sure if the mp-7/xl-7 has the same 
> engine/processsor power as the proteus 2500. I know this has been 
> discussed before but I did not find a final answer to this as the 
PR 
> information and some postings here tell a different story.

I wondered the same thing before I bought the xl-7.  So I compared 
the tech specs in the back of the xl-7 and 2500 manuals.  They were 
identical in every respect with the exception of sequencer data which 
was listed for the 2500 but not for the xl-7.

So my guess, for what it's worth, which is absolutely nothing, is 
that the only discernable difference between the 2500 and 2000 
engines is the 2500 has a buffed up sequencer.  In fact I seem to 
recall reading in some other source that it's like three times faster?

By the way for any Emu techs out there looking for ideas for the 3000 
how about a couple of virtual VCOs to go along with my virtual LFOs 
and filts.  Better still put them in a 2000 upgrade heh.


Q

According to the specs on the ##-7 Command Stations, they have the 
same engine as the P2K with the inclusion of the sequencer and that 
the 2500 has a processor that's 3 times faster than the P2K which can 
be taken many ways.  I'm happy with my expanded P2K but many could 
take the marketing campaign as a slam.

Later,

M2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3

--- In xl7@y..., "qwanta" <qwanta@y...> wrote:
> > PS: Anyone who can tell for sure if the mp-7/xl-7 has the same 
> > engine/processsor power as the proteus 2500. I know this has been 
> > discussed before but I did not find a final answer to this as the 
> PR 
> > information and some postings here tell a different story.
> 
> I wondered the same thing before I bought the xl-7.  So I compared 
> the tech specs in the back of the xl-7 and 2500 manuals.  They were 
> identical in every respect with the exception of sequencer data 
which 
> was listed for the 2500 but not for the xl-7.
> 
> So my guess, for what it's worth, which is absolutely nothing, is 
> that the only discernable difference between the 2500 and 2000 
> engines is the 2500 has a buffed up sequencer.  In fact I seem to 
> recall reading in some other source that it's like three times 
faster?
> 
> By the way for any Emu techs out there looking for ideas for the 
3000 

> how about a couple of virtual VCOs to go along with my virtual LFOs 
> and filts.  Better still put them in a 2000 upgrade heh.
> 
> 
> Q

on 1/14/02 12:50 PM, emufreak1 at mmcquay@... wrote:

> According to the specs on the ##-7 Command Stations, they have the
> same engine as the P2K with the inclusion of the sequencer and that
> the 2500 has a processor that's 3 times faster than the P2K which can
> be taken many ways.  I'm happy with my expanded P2K but many could
> take the marketing campaign as a slam.
>

I think someone has misinterpreted something here.

The P2500 and XL/MP boxes all have the same processor (CPU), and it is 
approximately 3x faster than the one in the P2000. If the literature 
says they have the same 'engine' it is referring to the fact that they 
all have the same 'synthesizer engine', meaning they have the same 
preset/voice architecture and all work with the same sound SIMM 
libraries and such.

Scott

Thank you for clearing this up for us, Scott, as I know from various 
postings, that many members underestimate the processing power of the 
mp-7/xl-7 units. 
Scott, may I ask you to comment on posting Nr. 1316 here "single 
notes without sound - why" - that would be very helpful, thank you!

Best regards

Heinrich


--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> on 1/14/02 12:50 PM, emufreak1 at mmcquay@m... wrote:
> 
> > According to the specs on the ##-7 Command Stations, they have the
> > same engine as the P2K with the inclusion of the sequencer and 
that
> > the 2500 has a processor that's 3 times faster than the P2K which 
can
> > be taken many ways.  I'm happy with my expanded P2K but many could
> > take the marketing campaign as a slam.
> >
> 
> I think someone has misinterpreted something here.
> 
> The P2500 and XL/MP boxes all have the same processor (CPU), and it 
is 
> approximately 3x faster than the one in the P2000. If the 
literature 
> says they have the same 'engine' it is referring to the fact that 
they 

> all have the same 'synthesizer engine', meaning they have the same 
> preset/voice architecture and all work with the same sound SIMM 
> libraries and such.
> 
> Scott

Back From NAMM.

Qwanta
Answer to question 1. The preset banks are different. The good news for
you is you can download all of the XL-1 banks from our web site,
emu.com. Go to the Xl-7 page and then to downloads.

Question number 2. Of course not. The Xl-7 is a current product and will
continue to get lots of support. You have made a wise purchase. 

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

qwanta wrote:

> 
> I just picked up my XL-7 yesterday and have been tinkering with it
> all day.  No probs so far but haven't started a project yet so I'll
> save my opinions for later.  But one thing that a friend who owns an
> XL-1 pointed out was that they do not appear to contain the same
> preset banks.  There's some overlap but many differences.  Granted I
> assumed the XL-7 came with the XL-1 preset ROMs so I have only myself
> to blame for the confusion.  But why are they partially different?
> Was there some kind of sound incompatibility or something?
> 
> Also I heard a disturbing rumor from not one but two seperate
> equipment dealers yesterday.  When I went to dealer A to pick up the
> unit the guy (who is usually very knowledgable about these things)
> told me he had sold out and had no plans to reorder because E-MU was
> discontinuing the product.  Scratching my head (news to me) I went
> down the road to national chain dealer B who had one remaining in
> stock.  I was told I was lucky because according to their database
> they had no plans to reorder.  When I asked why he said they usually
> only see that when a product is being discontinued.  !!  What's up
> with that???  Is this true??  Please tell me I didn't just sink a
> grand into a machine that's going to have no support in a year.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Qwanta
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