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Hey gang,
I was just reading the FAQs, and I read something about the drum kits 
that worries me, but I'm not sure if I understood it correctly. Can 
you create your own custom drum kits on the Command Stations? On the 
MC-505, if I like the kick drum from one drum kit, and the snare from 
another, I can put them together in a custom kit, and save them to a 
user kit location. Is this possible with these units? It's really not 
a big deal if it isn't, if the drum sounds are as good as everyone 
says they are. I find that a bit of a strange limitation, though. 
Fab

--- Fab Claxton <fabclaxton@...> wrote:
> Can you create your own custom drum kits on the Command Stations?

Unlike most competitor's gear, E-mu has no distinction between regular
presets and drum presets.  No, you can't make drum keymaps, but you can
choose 12 preset layers to make of any sound you want, complete with
key windows.  Short answer?  Yes, you can pick a kick from one preset
and a snare from another and make your own preset.  No, however, you
can't create a whole monsterous multisample keyboard layout with 30
drums each from different presets.

-Aaron

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Can you explain key layers please ... I got ya on the 12 voice thing I think... 4layers to the preset plus 2 links with 4 layers each Right ?

Key Layers ?  Can I assign layers to specific KEYBOARD KEYS ?

Also ... Can I record say a Kick and Snare on one track Live  and the some how explode them ?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aaron Eppolito 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 5:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Custom drum kits


  --- Fab Claxton <fabclaxton@...> wrote:
  > Can you create your own custom drum kits on the Command Stations?

  Unlike most competitor's gear, E-mu has no distinction between regular
  presets and drum presets.  No, you can't make drum keymaps, but you can
  choose 12 preset layers to make of any sound you want, complete with
  key windows.  Short answer?  Yes, you can pick a kick from one preset
  and a snare from another and make your own preset.  No, however, you
  can't create a whole monsterous multisample keyboard layout with 30
  drums each from different presets.

  -Aaron

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito wrote [A:]:
--- Fab Claxton wrote [Q:]:
--- Steve_the_composer wrote [Addendum:]:

Q:
Can you create your own custom drum kits on the Command Stations?

A:
Unlike most competitor's gear, E-mu has no distinction between
regular presets and drum presets.  No, you can't make drum keymaps,
but you can choose 12 preset layers to make of any sound you want,
complete with key windows.  Short answer?  Yes, you can pick a kick
from one preset and a snare from another and make your own preset.
No, however, you can't create a whole monsterous multisample
keyboard layout with 30 drums each from different presets.
 
-Aaron

Addendum  (one method doing the above):

(1) See the example of layering posted as part of BTS definition (2) 
@ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/12650.
(2) Zone/layer/map 4 kit, prc, sfx, etc. ROM Instruments (one per 
layer)in 3 different presets.
(3) Link the presets.

NOTE:  Various parameters can also be used to make simulated drum 
maps, such as layer transpose.  (Thanks to rEalm for this and other 
related tips!!)

TIP: Layers may be (1) switched or (2) cross-faded across the 
keyboard map, across the velocity map, and across real-time 
controller maps.

INTERMEDIATE TECHNIQUES:
(1) Use layer filters
(2) Use layer level patch cords for groovy simulated multi-
dimensional maps.
---> eg: Velocity, Pressure, AuxEnv, DC, etc. --> Pitch
---> For simulated humanize effects, try KeyRnd2 --> 'SStart [small 
amount]

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <sounddaddy@c...> wrote:
> Can you explain key layers please ... I got ya on the 12 voice
> thing I think... 4layers to the preset plus 2 links with 4 layers
> each Right ?
> 
> Key Layers ?  Can I assign layers to specific KEYBOARD KEYS ?

Not specific keys, but zones.  I think this is what Aaron meant by 
key windows.

For each layer in each preset you have a low point, a high point, a 
low fade range, and a high fade range.

If the fade range is 000, the layer you are editing will sound within 
the lo to high range.  Hence, it is a switch rather than a cross fade.

You can do this with key (note number), velocity, and real-time 
controllers.

RELATED EXCERPT FROM SIMLUATED DRUM MAPS POST:

Layers may be (1) switched or (2) cross-faded across the keyboard 
map, across the velocity map, and across real-time controller maps.

RELATED EXCERPT FROM BTS [BEATS] DISCUSSION:

L1 may be a SFX (Special Effects) ROM Instrument assigned to the 
keyboard range C-2 through A#0, L2 may be a KIT (drum kit)ROM 
Instrument assigned to the keyboard range B0 through B3, L3 may be a 
BAS (Bass) ROM Instrument assigned to the keyboard range C4 through 
B5, and L4 may be a STR (string) ROM Instrument assigned to the 
keyboard range C6 through G8. 

SEE ALSO:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/12656

"How to Create Custom Drum Kits: Part 1: Layering; Simulated Drum 
Maps"



Hope this helps.
--Dr. Steve  |8-)>