Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

What knob settings are you changing?
controller assigment 
k1    assigned to 74 for ch 2
k2    assigned to 71 for ch 4

the for pattern two 

say k1 assigned to control 1  ch 4 
whatever you get the idea ..

after i set the controller assigment i play the pattern then i save 
the pattern and then i save the muti and then name it and then save 
it to that name ..

i do this for the two patterns ..
again in oder for the pattern and controller vaules to be right. 
these are the steps that i have to take ..
go to multi ..select the multi ..then revert the pattern 
..when i switch the pattern i ahve to do the same for that pattern as 
well ....HOW DO I DO THIS LIVE ..i cant stop the show and start it up 
again ..thanks again 




- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> What knob settings are you changing?  Are they set to Volume, or 
Quick 
> Edit?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> honkeyhindu <honkeyhindu@c...>
> 05/22/2003 12:30 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: going insane ..presets changing 
on patterns
> 
> 
> ok .i am back with the same prb 
> here is what i am doing 
> write a pattern 
> set the knobs to different controls 
> save the pattern first..
> the play the pattern and then save the muti ( to save the 
controller 
> set up )
> save it then name it 
> 
> i do this for two patterns ..
> the controller vaules being different for both patterns 
> 
> pattern A   multi A
> pattern B   multi B
> 
> when i go from pattern A to B   the controller vaules remian the 
same 
> in order for me to get the right pattern with the right multisetup 
is 
> to stop play change 
> multi then do a revert to pattern .. but how are you supposed to do 
> that live ?
> 
> i am truly sorry that i do not understand this concept.
> 
> 
> -- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > hmm ..i found out that it was the multisetup that was causing 
this 
> whole 
> > prb .. but i still do not know why ???
> > 
> > >>>Well, if you load a multisetups, it loads the presets that 
were 
> on each 
> > Track when you saved the Multi.  So if you save the pattern after 
> loading 
> > a Multi, it will save the Presets assigned in the Multi, not the 
> ones you 
> > saved as part of the Pattern.   Best bet, is to Revert to Saved 
> Pattern 
> > before you save the Pattern! <<<
> > 
> > i went to the emu site to check out the prb last night and found 
my 
> prb 
> > ..but i cant understandy why emu would do this or if it just a 
way 
> of 
> > thinking that i am not used to ..
> > 
> > >>>99% sure it's the later, no offense. :) <<
> > 
> > "the Multisetups channel settings will be saved to Pattern, 
instead 
> of the 
> > correct values you wanted"
> > 
> > i do not get this at all .. why would a multiset up save a preset 
> > assigment ..there is already a way to save the preset to 
> pattern ..and it 
> > is simple and logical ..save it to pattern ...in my head the 
> multisetup 
> > should contain information about the channel assigment ...like 
what 
> sub 
> > groups the tracks are assigned to and the 
> > effects percentage such that if a person wanted to have one 
pattern 
> start 
> > out with one effect setting and change to another all they would 
> have to 
> > do is switch the mutisetup ..
> > 
> > >>>You can do what you suggest too, but Multisetups are more 
> flexible than 
> > that.  Say you were sequencing from an external sequencer, like 
> Cubase, 
> > then you wouldn't need to create a pattern (since the notes would 
> be 
> > stored in Cubase).  However, you'd still want the right sounds on 
> each 
> > track, so you could save a Multisetup to store this data.  
There's 
> lots 
> > more uses for Multi's, they're not JUST to save Preset 
assignments, 
> though 
> > that is a nice benefit. <<<
> > 
> > in my case say .i am on one of the orginal xl patterns ..and i 
> switch the 
> > multisetup the pattern goes all wacky ..it changes all the 
presets 
> in that 
> > pattern...  how do i fix this ?? 
> > 
> > >>>Easy, just perform a "Revert To Saved Pattern" (Pattern Edit 
> menu). 
> > This will relaod the Presets that were saved with the Pattern.  
Now 
> resave 
> > the Multi.  Whenever you load the Multi, it will recall the 
Presets 
> from 
> > the Pattern now.  You will need to do this for each of Multi's 
you 
> want to 
> > load durring a Pattern, and you will nee to do it for all 
> Patterns.  Think 
> > of Multi's as a snapshot of every setting within the XX-7 at the 
> moment 
> > you save it. Everytime you load a Multi, EVERYTHING will revert 
to 
> how the 
> > XX-7 was when you saved the multi. <<<
> > 
> > "and if you save your Pattern before playing it, the Multisetups 
> channel 
> > settings will be saved to Pattern"  err why why why ??
> > 
> > >>>Because when you load the multisetup, it will assign the 
Presets 
> to 
> > each track that were there when you saved the multi.  As far as 
the 
> > Pattern is concerned, it has no idea the Presets aren't what you 
> want, 
> > it's like you manually changed them one at a time as far as it's 
> > concerned.  So when you save the Pattern, it will now store the 
new 
> > Presets, instead of the ones you had orginally saved. <<<
> > 
> > how is this undone ?????
> > 
> > >>>If you load a multi and it doesn't have the Presets you want, 
> perform a 
> > Revert to Saved. <<<
> > 
> > thanks again to all
> > 
> > >>>Let me know if I didn't explain it well enough.  Believe it or 
> not, 
> > it's a really, really flexible feature, you just need to get your 
> head 
> > around and it'll make more sense. <<<
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
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