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Red Sound Micro Sync

2003-05-22 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yes, the way the connections on Micro Sync have to be achieved is one of 
it's unfortunate downsides, though there are ways around it.  The basic 
premise is that the MS needs to have an audio signal being fed to it, and 
from this audio signal it detects the tempo and generates the MIDI clock 
your 505/R8 will use as it's clock source.  The problem, is that if you're 
just sending it a signal from the main outs of the DJ mixer (or recording 
outs), you're also sending it the audio from 505/R8 as part of that 
signal. Thus, you get sort of a feedback loop, where you're trying to 
detect the BPM of the records to sync the 505 to, but you're also using 
the signal of the 505 as a source as well.  So in this situtation not only 
is the 505 receiving a clock signal, it's also part ot the audio 
generating it!  So it's not a audible squeeling, cover your ears type of 
feedback, but an issue with the sync.

There's two ways around this, depending on the situation.  If you're in a 
situation where you can use an external mixer, then you can connect it via 
the diagrams on the Red Sound page and you're good to good. Unfortunately, 
this is rarely possible in a club setting, so you have to use another 
method.  I personally use the effects loop sends on the DJ mixer, and feed 
these to RedSound, and then set channels 1&2 to use the effects loop via 
the switches on the mixer panel.  As long as you don't send the third 
channel the 505 is on to the effects loop, you should be fine.  This is 
also nice, because most DJ mixers have the effects loop post fader, so you 
won't get any weird syncs happening while your buddy is cueing up his next 
record (since that channel's fader or the crossfader will be lowered, thus 
nothing will go out the effect send).  Works fine in use, and you can use 
the effect send knobs on the mixer to govern the levels of the audio 
signal going to the MS.  The MS is kinda picky about the audio levels 
going to it (too loud or quiet and it doesn't work well), so this is very 
nice.  BTW, the MS has an LED that changes colors to let you know the 
strength of the input signal, so no worries there.

Keep in mind it's not perfect, the MS will still need to be adjusted for 
some records (the tempo will be right, but the beat is off), so you need 
to have it where you can reach it still.  Just FYI.

Questions?
rEalm








   Realm, I know you have experience with the RedSound microsync. I 
am getting ready to purchase this so a friend and myself can rock 
decks and drums. I just wanted to know how is this thing connected to 
a basic dj setup?... 2 technics, a 3 input mixer and a 505/R8. I have 
the drums going into the line input on my third channel.

The pdf said something about a sub-mixer and it confused me. Do I 
need 2 mixers before I go into the club's board? Thanks.

dj skurge



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