MOTM

Hello all,

Does anyone have readily avail.: some mouser or allied cat.#'s for 
hook-up wire?  I don't know why but I seem to have a mental problem 
with this particular hardware item and often end up getting the wrong 
wire or something completely different than what I thought.
I'm pretty sure we're talking 22awg - eh?  Just like the stuff Paul 
uses in the kits!

This would be greatly appreciated - The page Dave (Hotrod) put 
together on common MOTM parts is VERY helpful!  I would think it 
helpful to all to keep this list growing.  (maybe it is somewhere and 
I just haven't found it !?!?!?) If there is a 'central data core' let 
me know so I can contribute.

Ordering parts can be so fun - NOT !!!

Rog - 
just spent way too much on parts this past weekend-which equates 
to: "no x-mas this year for the family....chuckles"

Thanks Paul!

Geez - there's nothing like having the CEO standing by and awaiting 
your inquires or questions and responding within microseconds...Thats 
customer service which TRANSCENDS the whole concept of cust. service!

Thanks,

Rog

I use Belden #9921, which is 22ga, UL1007 listed. About $13 for a 100ft spool. This is "the good
stuff". I get mine from Allied or Newark.

A cool little bench setup is Belden #8824, which is 8 different colors of wire in a little
dispensor, about $65.

I know folks like to dig wire out of dumpsters of salvage telephone wire found on the side of the
road. Not me.

Paul S.

> I know folks like to dig wire out of dumpsters of salvage telephone 
wire found on the side of the
> road. Not me.
> 
> Paul S.

Me neither- I get mine from buildings that are going to be 
demolished.  That way you know it's dry and clean.  Belden 22awg by 
any other source is still Belden 22awg.  Most of the time, if you 
have your own safety shoes, glasses and hardhat, the other 
construction workers won't even notice you...

Chub-laboring in obscurity

I don't have part numbers for the 22 gauge wire, but I've got Mouser 
part numbers for the 18 gauge power supply wire:

1        602-3055-100-01       1        11.370    11.37  
          18AWG UL1007 WHT
          Alpha Wire Hook-Up Wire

1        602-3055-100-02       1        11.370    11.37  
          18AWG UL1007 BLK
          Alpha Wire Hook-Up Wire

1        602-3055-100-03       1        11.370    11.37  
          18AWG UL1007 RED
          Alpha Wire Hook-Up Wire

This wire looks identical to the official MOTM stuff, it probably is 
the same stuff.

While we're on this topic, I also picked up a couple of tools for 
fixing wires into MTA connectors (Mouser part numbers):

1        571-598041            1        22.000    22.00  
          156 T HANDL MAINT TL
          AMP MTA .156' Connectors

1        571-598031            1        20.200    20.20  
          100 T HANDL MAINT TL
          AMP MTA .100' Connectors

These aren't the fancy ones with a trigger; these are the T-shaped 
ones that still require a vice to hold the connector and a bit of 
grunting to get the wire in place. I've found these tools to be much 
more reliable than the old pliers method, especially when building 20 
power cables. The results are consistent and perfect each time.

These aren't "must have" tools. But if you're taking in your empties, 
you might want to consider buying yourself a treat with all that 
dough. That's how I celebrated my birthday !

At 2:32 PM +0000 2003/10/06, Roger Rossen wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Does anyone have readily avail.: some mouser or allied cat.#'s for
>hook-up wire?  I don't know why but I seem to have a mental problem
>with this particular hardware item and often end up getting the wrong
>wire or something completely different than what I thought.
>I'm pretty sure we're talking 22awg - eh?  Just like the stuff Paul
>uses in the kits!
>

At 9:22 PM +0000 2003/10/06, osthelder wrote:
>  > I know folks like to dig wire out of dumpsters of salvage telephone
>wire found on the side of the
>>  road. Not me.
>>
>>  Paul S.
>
>Me neither- I get mine from buildings that are going to be
>demolished.  That way you know it's dry and clean.  Belden 22awg by
>any other source is still Belden 22awg.  Most of the time, if you
>have your own safety shoes, glasses and hardhat, the other
>construction workers won't even notice you...
>

Me too. I picked up a 50 foot trunk line of 22 gauge twisted pairs 
from a university building I was working in. I've been picking away 
at it for 10 years.

I found wire at Unicorn Electronics in Johnson City, NY, last summer during 
a trip.  I bought seven 100-foot spools of different colors in #22 gauge 
stranded at $4.83 each.

<http://www.unicornelex.com/newunicorn/search.php?cat=&searchstring=Hookup+wire&Go=Go>http://www.unicornelex.com/newunicorn/search.php?cat=&searchstring=Hookup+wire&Go=Go

You can find other synth DIY parts there too.

-Richard Brewster

At 02:32 PM 10/6/03 +0000, Roger Rossen wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Does anyone have readily avail.: some mouser or allied cat.#'s for
>hook-up wire?  I don't know why but I seem to have a mental problem
>with this particular hardware item and often end up getting the wrong
>wire or something completely different than what I thought.
>I'm pretty sure we're talking 22awg - eh?  Just like the stuff Paul
>uses in the kits!
>
>This would be greatly appreciated - The page Dave (Hotrod) put
>together on common MOTM parts is VERY helpful!  I would think it
>helpful to all to keep this list growing.  (maybe it is somewhere and
>I just haven't found it !?!?!?) If there is a 'central data core' let
>me know so I can contribute.
>
>Ordering parts can be so fun - NOT !!!
>
>Rog -
>just spent way too much on parts this past weekend-which equates
>to: "no x-mas this year for the family....chuckles"

My first DIY synth (circa 1980) was built with #24 gauge wire salvaged from 
the dustbin of an avionics factory I had worked at.  It was Teflon 
insulated.  They threw away a lot of clippings that were perfectly good, 
just too short.  I miss that Telfon insulation which is impervious to a 700 
degree soldering iron.

-Richard Brewster

>I know folks like to dig wire out of dumpsters of salvage telephone wire 
>found on the side of the
>road. Not me.
>
>Paul S.

> From: "Roger Rossen" <mididood@...>
> Subject: Hook-up wire
> 
> FYI - I ordered the #8824 kit from Allied - it states 
> however that it is 20 awg!

Ok, here it goes.  Paul states that MOTM uses Belden 9921, which is 22 awg wire.

Belden 8824 is a kit of eight 25-ft. spools of 20 awg wire (8523)

Belden 9531 is a kit of five 100-ft. spools of 22 awg wire (8524) that is very similar to Belden 9921.

Ivan

For those situations where you only need a small amount of hookup wire, Ace 
Hardware has many different guages and colors of hookup wire on spools that 
can be bought by the foot.  That's what I do if I just need a couple of feet 
to wire up a power supply or whatever.

-Elhardt