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Wanted: SDS7 cards and selector pad

Wanted: SDS7 cards and selector pad

2011-06-03 by Rob Mayo

Folks, I'd like some extra cards for my SDS7. Currently I have the standard bass, snare, 3 toms and hi hat. Ideally I'd like an extra 3 tom cards and one of those double snare cards (do I need a special pad for that snare card?)but failing that would be open to whatever anyone has go to offer. I'd also like another selector pad as my current one is slowly dying and best thus l that I get another selector pad as a backup.

Looking forward to hearing from you.


Thanks & regards,


Rob.

Re: [Simmons Drums] Wanted: SDS7 cards and selector pad

2011-06-04 by sovereigng@aol.com

It's possible to repair your selector pad. The  interior of it makes a grid 
pattern. Selecting a kit involves pressing two lines  together to complete 
the circuit at one of sixteen points. When hairline cracks  develop in these 
lines, adjacent intersections don't connect as they should  causing 
intermittent connections or none at all.
    
    Also, the multi-EPROM cards are utilized by using  the resonance of the 
filter as a selector. Don't quote me; I haven't used my  quad-EPROM card in 
years. But, you don't need a dual output pad to use a  multi-EPROM card. In 
fact, a dual trigger pad wasn't manufactured by Simmons  until '86 (SDS-9), 
or so, other than the cymbal they made for the SDS-V. 
    
    As for additional cards, I may have what you need.  Contact me off list 
for those.
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2011 10:57:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rob.mayo@... writes:

 
 
 
Folks, I'd like some extra cards for my SDS7. Currently I have the standard 
 bass, snare, 3 toms and hi hat. Ideally I'd like an extra 3 tom cards and 
one  of those double snare cards (do I need a special pad for that snare 
card?)but  failing that would be open to whatever anyone has go to offer. I'd 
also like  another selector pad as my current one is slowly dying and best 
thus l that I  get another selector pad as a backup.

Looking forward to hearing from  you.

Thanks & regards,

Rob.





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Re: [Simmons Drums] Wanted: SDS7 cards and selector pad

2011-06-04 by Ed

How do you go about getting to the grid lines? Is there an easy way to remove the pad surface from the case without destroying it? Please advise.

You are correct: a standard module fitted with a 2085 daughter card can hold 4 eproms which are selectable via the 'Resonance' control. The downside is you lose 'Resonance' programmability.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/photos/album/114207822/pic/list

There is also the Dual Sample Module which holds 2 eproms that are dynamic dependent. Meaning, you program a threshold where the module switches from eprom 1 to eprom 2. The downside is you lose the analog section.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/photos/album/2082012503/pic/list

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, sovereigng@... wrote:
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> It's possible to repair your selector pad. The  interior of it makes a grid 
> pattern. Selecting a kit involves pressing two lines  together to complete 
> the circuit at one of sixteen points. When hairline cracks  develop in these 
> lines, adjacent intersections don't connect as they should  causing 
> intermittent connections or none at all.
>     
>     Also, the multi-EPROM cards are utilized by using  the resonance of the 
> filter as a selector. Don't quote me; I haven't used my  quad-EPROM card in 
> years. But, you don't need a dual output pad to use a  multi-EPROM card. In 
> fact, a dual trigger pad wasn't manufactured by Simmons  until '86 (SDS-9), 
> or so, other than the cymbal they made for the SDS-V. 
>     
>     As for additional cards, I may have what you need.  Contact me off list 
> for those.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 6/4/2011 10:57:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> rob.mayo@... writes:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Folks, I'd like some extra cards for my SDS7. Currently I have the standard 
>  bass, snare, 3 toms and hi hat. Ideally I'd like an extra 3 tom cards and 
> one  of those double snare cards (do I need a special pad for that snare 
> card?)but  failing that would be open to whatever anyone has go to offer. I'd 
> also like  another selector pad as my current one is slowly dying and best 
> thus l that I  get another selector pad as a backup.
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from  you.
> 
> Thanks & regards,
> 
> Rob.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Wanted: SDS7 cards and selector pad

2011-06-04 by sovereigng@aol.com

Ed,
 
As for the selector: I forget how to do it. I repaired one for someone back 
 in '03. I'd have to take mine apart to rediscover how to do it. At this 
time I'm  slowly moving back to NYC and my stuff is scattered. My three SDS-7s 
(two  currently in operation) and half of my tools are in NJ and my 
selector pad is in  NY with the rest of my tools. I can revisit this post and offer 
a hack tutorial  or repair it for you if you want to send it.
 
Thanks for clarifying regarding the multi-EPROM cards.
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2011 3:52:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
edrose1@... writes:
 
 
 
 
How do you go about getting to the grid lines? Is there an easy way to  
remove the pad surface from the case without destroying it? Please  advise.

You are correct: a standard module fitted with a 2085 daughter  card can 
hold 4 eproms which are selectable via the 'Resonance' control. The  downside 
is you lose 'Resonance' programmability.
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/photos/album/114207822/pic/list
_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/photos/album/114207822/pic/list) 

There  is also the Dual Sample Module which holds 2 eproms that are dynamic 
 dependent. Meaning, you program a threshold where the module switches from 
 eprom 1 to eprom 2. The downside is you lose the analog section.
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/photos/album/2082012503/pic/lis
t_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/photos/album/2082012503/pic/list) 

---  In _Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com) ,  sovereigng@... wrote:
>
> It's possible to repair your selector  pad. The interior of it makes a 
grid 
> pattern. Selecting a kit  involves pressing two lines together to 
complete 
> the circuit at one  of sixteen points. When hairline cracks develop in 
these 
> lines,  adjacent intersections don't connect as they should causing 
>  intermittent connections or none at all.
> 
> Also, the  multi-EPROM cards are utilized by using the resonance of the 
> filter  as a selector. Don't quote me; I haven't used my quad-EPROM card 
in 
>  years. But, you don't need a dual output pad to use a multi-EPROM card. 
In  
> fact, a dual trigger pad wasn't manufactured by Simmons until '86  
(SDS-9), 
> or so, other than the cymbal they made for the SDS-V.  
> 
> As for additional cards, I may have what you need. Contact  me off list 
> for those.
> 
> 
> In a message dated  6/4/2011 10:57:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> rob.mayo@...  writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Folks, I'd like some extra  cards for my SDS7. Currently I have the 
standard 
> bass, snare, 3 toms  and hi hat. Ideally I'd like an extra 3 tom cards 
and 
> one of those  double snare cards (do I need a special pad for that snare 
> card?)but  failing that would be open to whatever anyone has go to offer. 
I'd 
>  also like another selector pad as my current one is slowly dying and 
best  
> thus l that I get another selector pad as a backup.
> 
>  Looking forward to hearing from you.
> 
> Thanks &  regards,
> 
> Rob.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>





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