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Hi 
I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog sounds but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the sensitivity pots very down but the response it�s the same. I�m triggering the sds7 by a yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the pads the sound is good but when I play a pattern or sequence from the drum machine the sound is saturated. Could it be because an eprom fail?,or could it be for another reason?. Thanks

alfpaches skrev:
> Hi
> I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog 
> sounds but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the 
> sensitivity pots very down but the response it´s the same. I´m 
> triggering the sds7 by a yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the 
> pads the sound is good but when I play a pattern or sequence from the 
> drum machine the sound is saturated. Could it be because an eprom 
> fail?,or could it be for another reason?. Thanks

Am I understanding this correct? You use individual out of the rx5 and 
send that to the 6,3 mm input trigger jacks of the SDS-7?

I have no rx5 experience but my bet is that the trigger level is way 
off. Do you mean that the digital sounds are too loud or far too low. 
I'd expect loud with the use of "saturated" but want to check.

Have you and means to check the voltage level of the rx5 outputs?

My guess is that you get one voltage when playing the rx5 live and 
another when the sequencer is in use.

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Selon alfpaches <alfpaches@...>:

> Hi
> I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog sounds
> but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the sensitivity
> pots very down but the response it\ufffds the same. I\ufffdm triggering the sds7 by a
> yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the pads the sound is good but when I
> play a pattern or sequence from the drum machine the sound is saturated.
> Could it be because an eprom fail?,or could it be for another reason?. Thanks
>
>


If it's ok when you play from pads , your Eproms are ok.
Jesper should be quite close to the problem...

Inside the RX5 the velocity of the pads might be not set as loud as the
sequencer dynamics...
you could try first to check the output signal from the RX5 following your
different triggering sources.
or You have the solution of filtering the signal, through MTM or whatever...

good luck...

Patrice.

Hello,
I suppose, you use the single audio outputs of the rx5 to trigger the sds7. These audio samples are simply too long. I don't know the RX5, but if it is possible to tune the samples very high, it must get better. And if you are able to assign samples, the sidestick is the best choice.
Michael 


To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:07 PM
  Subject: [Simmons Drums] simmons sds7 triggering


    
  Hi 
  I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog sounds but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the sensitivity pots very down but the response it´s the same. I´m triggering the sds7 by a yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the pads the sound is good but when I play a pattern or sequence from the drum machine the sound is saturated. Could it be because an eprom fail?,or could it be for another reason?. Thanks



  

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Great
the sds7 is working perfectly. Thanks

--- El sáb, 13/3/10, Jacquot.Patrice@... <Jacquot.Patrice@...> escribió:


De: Jacquot.Patrice@... <Jacquot.Patrice@...>
Asunto: Re: [Simmons Drums] simmons sds7 triggering
Para: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Fecha: sábado, 13 de marzo, 2010 15:35


  



Selon alfpaches <alfpaches@yahoo. es>:

> Hi
> I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog sounds
> but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the sensitivity
> pots very down but the response it´s the same. I´m triggering the sds7 by a
> yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the pads the sound is good but when I
> play a pattern or sequence from the drum machine the sound is saturated.
> Could it be because an eprom fail?,or could it be for another reason?. Thanks
>
>

If it's ok when you play from pads , your Eproms are ok.
Jesper should be quite close to the problem...

Inside the RX5 the velocity of the pads might be not set as loud as the
sequencer dynamics...
you could try first to check the output signal from the RX5 following your
different triggering sources.
or You have the solution of filtering the signal, through MTM or whatever...

good luck...

Patrice.








      

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Well done ...
So what was the problem  ?





Selon ALFONSO PACHES <alfpaches@...>:

> Great
> the sds7 is working perfectly. Thanks
>
> --- El sáb, 13/3/10, Jacquot.Patrice@... <Jacquot.Patrice@...>
> escribió:
>
>
> De: Jacquot.Patrice@... <Jacquot.Patrice@...>
> Asunto: Re: [Simmons Drums] simmons sds7 triggering
> Para: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Fecha: sábado, 13 de marzo, 2010 15:35
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Selon alfpaches <alfpaches@yahoo. es>:
>
> > Hi
> > I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog
> sounds
> > but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the
> sensitivity
> > pots very down but the response it´s the same. I´m triggering the sds7 by
> a
> > yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the pads the sound is good but when
> I
> > play a pattern or sequence from the drum machine the sound is saturated.
> > Could it be because an eprom fail?,or could it be for another reason?.
> Thanks
> >
> >
>
> If it's ok when you play from pads , your Eproms are ok.
> Jesper should be quite close to the problem...
>
> Inside the RX5 the velocity of the pads might be not set as loud as the
> sequencer dynamics...
> you could try first to check the output signal from the RX5 following your
> different triggering sources.
> or You have the solution of filtering the signal, through MTM or whatever...
>
> good luck...
>
> Patrice.
>
>
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The SDS7, like most drum brains, is looking for a very very short "spike" like signal if you are using the trigger/pad input. The closest thing on your drum machine would be a crosstick I'd guess, but even that is too long/wide of a signal. Digidesign, formerly Digidrums waaaaay back when, had a set or sound eproms for the Linn, Drumulator and other drum machines that had this sort of sound so you could trigger the drum brains from one of these drum machines. Without that, you'd have to use a noaise gate to gate the sound from the drum machine to make them short, or if you could find an old MX-1 trigger device, these were what we used back in the 80's for triggering drum brains from a sound source.


--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I suppose, you use the single audio outputs of the rx5 to trigger the sds7. These audio samples are simply too long. I don't know the RX5, but if it is possible to tune the samples very high, it must get better. And if you are able to assign samples, the sidestick is the best choice.
> Michael 
> 
> 
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:07 PM
>   Subject: [Simmons Drums] simmons sds7 triggering
> 
> 
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>   Hi 
>   I have problems to tigger my sds7. There is no problem with the analog sounds but when I use the digital sounds they sound saturated. I set the sensitivity pots very down but the response it´s the same. I´m triggering the sds7 by a yamaha rx5 drum machine and when I push the pads the sound is good but when I play a pattern or sequence from the drum machine the sound is saturated. Could it be because an eprom fail?,or could it be for another reason?. Thanks
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