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Hi all, Does any one know were I can find the Potentiometers for the
SDSV and SDS7 Brains. If you can help, that would be great!
Thank You,
Haley Johnson

crew38special skrev:

>
>
> Hi all, Does any one know were I can find the Potentiometers for the
> SDSV and SDS7 Brains. If you can help, that would be great!
> Thank You,
> Haley Johnson

Nothing exotic there afaik; farnell, mouser, elfa etc, depends on your
location.

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Hi Jesper, I have tryed mouser with no luck. The girl I talked to said that they don't have any thing that small. I live in Jacksonville Florida also. PLEASE let me know if you can do more. Also, do you know any one that has a V module thats broke that can be used for parts or will sell parts off it? If you don't mind me asking, Where do you live?
Thank You,
Haley Johnson


jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
crew38special skrev:

Haley Johnson skrev:

>
>
> Hi Jesper, I have tryed mouser with no luck. The girl I talked to said
> that they don't have any thing that small. I live in Jacksonville
> Florida also. PLEASE let me know if you can do more. Also, do you know
> any one that has a V module thats broke that can be used for parts or
> will sell parts off it? If you don't mind me asking, Where do you live?
> Thank You,
> Haley Johnson

I'm in Sweden and those small potentiometers should be available at
Mouser AFAIK - Strange since Mouser is HUGE. I repaired a SDS-1 a few
years ago and that has those small pots too. Or am I remembering wrong
here? Are the SDS-V even smaller? :-o

I bet a few of our tech-heads will step in soon enough. Regarding
corpses people on this list tend to fix them up. Waveterm, don't you
have any broken units about?

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No, SDSV and SDS7 are the same size. What my problem is that one of the stem on the pot broke off. The pot still works but no way to turn it. I think that I can glue it back but if I can find a new one that would be the way to go. I also have two SDS7 modules the are broke. One of the problems with them are the pots are broken on the inside. No way to repair that. If I can get my hands on some New or Used ones I think that I can get them working again.
And were back to the BIG PROBLEM. NO POT, SUCKS!!!

jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
Haley Johnson skrev:

Hi man
sorry to help some people out off a dream but
simmons has nothing to do with rocket science. I've never repaired one but
the components used are standard pot's etc. At least back in those days.
So some transistors may be run in by time, but like pot's etc, that's standard
stuff. Think for yourself way it makes sense ( answer: standard components
are way cheaper??yes that's the answer)
so take your sds 1/2/3/4/5/7/9* etc to an electronica (component)store nearby
and point at the component you want (inside the module) and make sure that
the GUY (sorry) understands what you want. He'll get it for you and you just
pay the bill. Everybody happy, right?
good luck with the repair and have fun

Yours sincerely
Berk

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>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: Haley Johnson <crew38special@...>
>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:59:10 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Potentiometers SDSV $ SDS7
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>No, SDSV and SDS7 are the same size. What my problem is that one of the
>stem on the pot broke off. The pot still works but no way to turn it. I

think

>that I can glue it back but if I can find a new one that would be the way
>to go. I also have two SDS7 modules the are broke. One of the problems with
>them are the pots are broken on the inside. No way to repair that. If I

can

>get my hands on some New or Used ones I think that I can get them working
>again.
> And were back to the BIG PROBLEM. NO POT, SUCKS!!!
>
>jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
> Haley Johnson skrev:
>>
>>
>> Hi Jesper, I have tryed mouser with no luck. The girl I talked to said
>
>> that they don't have any thing that small. I live in Jacksonville
>> Florida also. PLEASE let me know if you can do more. Also, do you know
>
>> any one that has a V module thats broke that can be used for parts or

>> will sell parts off it? If you don't mind me asking, Where do you live?
>> Thank You,
>> Haley Johnson
>
>I'm in Sweden and those small potentiometers should be available at
>Mouser AFAIK - Strange since Mouser is HUGE. I repaired a SDS-1 a few
>years ago and that has those small pots too. Or am I remembering wrong
>here? Are the SDS-V even smaller? :-o
>
>I bet a few of our tech-heads will step in soon enough. Regarding
>corpses people on this list tend to fix them up. Waveterm, don't you
>have any broken units about?
>
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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Haley Johnson
<crew38special@...> wrote:

> I have tryed mouser with no luck. The girl I talked to said that

they don't have any thing that small.

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...> wrote:

I know, if I am explaining things too exact and technical, I get always laughed at ;-). Ok, let's check it out again. SDS5 and / use pots with 3mm axis (shaft). They use linear types (A). SDS5 needs 5 piece 100kOhms, (this means 100000 Ohms) and 1piece 1MOhm (this means 1 Megaohm or 1000000 Ohms).
SDS7 needs 2 piece 4K7 Ohms (this means 4700 Ohms). For a correct placement, the distance from soldering pins to the middle of the axis is important, otherwise the axis is sitting not straight. If the pot is soldered onto the PCB, the axis - middle is 12mm above the board. The diameter of the pots housing may be up to 17 mm, otherwise it doesn't fit into the gap.
Hope that helps.
B.t.w.: How many do you need?

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you are right off course, it was meant as a joke. Besides I haven't come
across a competent woman in electronics (sorry did it again)
Anyway if it doesn't work out on the potmeters, sent one to me and I'll get
you the right ones. What is the value you need ( ohm )??
Berk

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>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: "Dave B" <bongo2001@...>
>Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:38:04 -0000
>Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Potentiometers SDSV $ SDS7
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...> wrote:
>
>> and make sure that the GUY (sorry)
>> understands what you want. He'll
>> get it for you and you just
>> pay the bill. Everybody happy, right?
>
>Berk, there are a lot of competent woman in the electronics industry.
> Unfortunately, Mouser seems to staff the phone banks with people who
>know nothing about electronics. I've experienced the "we don't have
>that" conversation with them myself, and it was a GUY telling me.
>
>Based on Jesper's post, it sounds like they're 16mm. Can anyone
>confirm if the shaft is 6mm or 1/4"? Haley, if I have the value you
>need I can send you one to see if it fits.
>

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are they lineair or logarithmic??
that is something to keep in mind

Berk




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Dave B skrev:

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>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...> wrote:
>
> > and make sure that the GUY (sorry)
> > understands what you want. He'll
> > get it for you and you just
> > pay the bill. Everybody happy, right?
>
> Berk, there are a lot of competent woman in the electronics industry.
> Unfortunately, Mouser seems to staff the phone banks with people who
> know nothing about electronics. I've experienced the "we don't have
> that" conversation with them myself, and it was a GUY telling me.
>
> Based on Jesper's post, it sounds like they're 16mm. Can anyone
> confirm if the shaft is 6mm or 1/4"? Haley, if I have the value you
> need I can send you one to see if it fits.

No, they're the thinner type, 4 mm? And yes, from what I rmeember I'd
say 16 wide.

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Hi Michael, I need two of the 100k for the SDSV brain. I also need six of the 4k7 for mr SDS7. IF you can help that would be sweet. I have had the hardest time with fineing these pots. Do you know if both of these pots are still being made and where can I find them?
Haley Johnson

Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
I know, if I am explaining things too exact and technical, I get always laughed at ;-). Ok, let's check it out again. SDS5 and / use pots with 3mm axis (shaft). They use linear types (A). SDS5 needs 5 piece 100kOhms, (this means 100000 Ohms) and 1piece 1MOhm (this means 1 Megaohm or 1000000 Ohms).
SDS7 needs 2 piece 4K7 Ohms (this means 4700 Ohms). For a correct placement, the distance from soldering pins to the middle of the axis is important, otherwise the axis is sitting not straight. If the pot is soldered onto the PCB, the axis - middle is 12mm above the board. The diameter of the pots housing may be up to 17 mm, otherwise it doesn't fit into the gap.
Hope that helps.
B.t.w.: How many do you need?

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Haley Johnson skrev:

>
>
> Hi Michael, I need two of the 100k for the SDSV brain. I also need six
> of the 4k7 for mr SDS7. IF you can help that would be sweet. I have had
> the hardest time with fineing these pots. Do you know if both of these
> pots are still being made and where can I find them?

I still think Mouser have these in a number of variations. But if
Michael can help you get the exact right it might be worth sending them
across the pond if you get the a match.

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Hi Jesper, Do you know someone at Mouser because I do and they both say that they don't have anything that size. Maybe you can try and see what they say or someone out there can. If someone can just call them, you will see what I'm talking about. I'm not making this up. Is it possible that they are not made any more? The last time that I E-mailed the person that I know at mouser about this, I sent some pictures of the pot with a digital caliper showing the measurement of it. Not to sure how to be more clear then that.
Haley Johnson :(

jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
Haley Johnson skrev:

Haley Johnson skrev:

>
>
> Hi Jesper, Do you know someone at Mouser because I do and they both say
> that they don't have anything that size. Maybe you can try and see what
> they say or someone out there can. If someone can just call them, you
> will see what I'm talking about. I'm not making this up. Is it possible
> that they are not made any more? The last time that I E-mailed the
> person that I know at mouser about this, I sent some pictures of the pot
> with a digital caliper showing the measurement of it. Not to sure how to
> be more clear then that.

Converting inches is messy, but something like this for the SDS-V?
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Ntt=31CX501

As I understand it it's lin100k with 4 mm shaft and small housing. I
don't recall if it needs 90 degrees mounting, but this was just a quick
look in hteir HUGE catalogue online...

I don't mean this is the best, but just a quick look gave this result so
saying that they don't have small pots is strange...

Seeing all those sliders on the pages reminds me to try to get a match
for my Synare and all it's worn out and broken sliders.

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Jesper, Are you sure that this is a good replacement for the SDSV pots?

jesper <jesper@...> wrote: Haley Johnson skrev:

>
>
> Hi Jesper, Do you know someone at Mouser because I do and they both say
> that they don't have anything that size. Maybe you can try and see what
> they say or someone out there can. If someone can just call them, you
> will see what I'm talking about. I'm not making this up. Is it possible
> that they are not made any more? The last time that I E-mailed the
> person that I know at mouser about this, I sent some pictures of the pot
> with a digital caliper showing the measurement of it. Not to sure how to
> be more clear then that.

Converting inches is messy, but something like this for the SDS-V?
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Ntt=31CX501

As I understand it it's lin100k with 4 mm shaft and small housing. I
don't recall if it needs 90 degrees mounting, but this was just a quick
look in hteir HUGE catalogue online...

I don't mean this is the best, but just a quick look gave this result so
saying that they don't have small pots is strange...

Seeing all those sliders on the pages reminds me to try to get a match
for my Synare and all it's worn out and broken sliders.

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www.conrad.nl
dutch parts site, and with nearly every part they sell, they specify the
measerements online. Good luck searching

Berk
PS offcourse a big company like mouser is not gonna look for you in the their
warehouse to see if they have a 4mm potmeter with 12,54 mm axis in a 90 degree
housing. The people on the phone are just salesman, no electronic fanatics
(let go they understand anything about a simmons sdsV) So it is up to you
to find the parts your looking for. This is not to be an asshole, I once
looked more then 6 month to find a particular ad converter for a sampler.
take your time and have patience

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Haley Johnson skrev:

>
>
> Jesper, Are you sure that this is a good replacement for the SDSV pots?

No, let's double check with the list. I didn't browse the entire section
of potentiometers... My point was more that "look for something like this".

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Berk Aarts skrev:

> www.conrad.nl
> dutch parts site, and with nearly every part they sell, they specify the
> measerements online. Good luck searching
>
> Berk
> PS offcourse a big company like mouser is not gonna look for you in the their
> warehouse to see if they have a 4mm potmeter with 12,54 mm axis in a 90 degree
> housing. The people on the phone are just salesman, no electronic fanatics
> (let go they understand anything about a simmons sdsV) So it is up to you
> to find the parts your looking for. This is not to be an asshole, I once
> looked more then 6 month to find a particular ad converter for a sampler.
> take your time and have patience

Good summary... I know the feeling, searching for zn425e-8 at the
moment, a long deleted IC for one of my Variophones...

My local store however is a real goldmine with dedicated staff etc.

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Berk, All I see at this point is this one. 4mm metal axle 100k lin. Will it work? (http://www.bmm-electronics.com)

Berk Aarts <B.E.R.K@...> wrote: www.conrad.nl
dutch parts site, and with nearly every part they sell, they specify the
measerements online. Good luck searching

Berk
PS offcourse a big company like mouser is not gonna look for you in the their
warehouse to see if they have a 4mm potmeter with 12,54 mm axis in a 90 degree
housing. The people on the phone are just salesman, no electronic fanatics
(let go they understand anything about a simmons sdsV) So it is up to you
to find the parts your looking for. This is not to be an asshole, I once
looked more then 6 month to find a particular ad converter for a sampler.
take your time and have patience

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indeed LOCAL store helps
I finally found my ad converter in china (think it was HKinventory) on their
website, sent a mail, and then found out that shipping would be €100,--.
So I asked them to sent it by post. Took 2 months to get to holland, but
I got it for free.
So, good luck to you all finding the parts you need
Berk

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>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: jesper <jesper@...>
>Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:13:13 +0100
>Subject: Re: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Potentiometers SDSV & SDS7
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Berk Aarts skrev:
>> www.conrad.nl
>> dutch parts site, and with nearly every part they sell, they specify the
>> measerements online. Good luck searching
>>
>> Berk
>> PS offcourse a big company like mouser is not gonna look for you in the
>their
>> warehouse to see if they have a 4mm potmeter with 12,54 mm axis in a 90
>degree
>> housing. The people on the phone are just salesman, no electronic fanatics
>> (let go they understand anything about a simmons sdsV) So it is up to

you

>> to find the parts your looking for. This is not to be an asshole, I once
>> looked more then 6 month to find a particular ad converter for a sampler.
>> take your time and have patience
>
>Good summary... I know the feeling, searching for zn425e-8 at the
>moment, a long deleted IC for one of my Variophones...
>
>My local store however is a real goldmine with dedicated staff etc.
>
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a potmeter of 100K/lin is all it is. Since it is in a drummachine it probably
is 1/4 W, so powerconsumtion is not an issue. The point is, perhaps you can't
find the part with the exact measerments, but if you buy a 100k/lin, then
it must work. So perhaps it's easier to just get one, and put it in. It will
not be an exact repair, but at least your sds works and your bloodpressure
will be a lot easier.
Resumme: a potmeter 100k or 4k7 or whatever) are standard parts and can be
replaced by a potmeter with the same value. Important is to check whether
it's lineair or logarithmic.

hope this helps

good luck

Berk

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>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: Haley Johnson <crew38special@...>
>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:40:42 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Potentiometers SDSV & SDS7
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Berk, All I see at this point is this one. 4mm metal axle 100k lin. Will
>it work? (http://www.bmm-electronics.com)
>
>Berk Aarts <B.E.R.K@...> wrote: www.conrad.nl
>dutch parts site, and with nearly every part they sell, they specify the
>measerements online. Good luck searching
>
>Berk
>PS offcourse a big company like mouser is not gonna look for you in the

their

>warehouse to see if they have a 4mm potmeter with 12,54 mm axis in a 90

degree

Ok, you just found them. I have some of these in stock, but only some... No, they are not expensive like hell, no. Send your physical address to buchnerelectronics@... and the rest will follow ;-)
Cheers
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Hello all,
I made a mistake in my description of these pots: The axis is 4mm, not 3mm. Sorry. I have enough of them in stock to send the 8 pieces to Haley and the 4 pieces to Patrice, but then I am nearly running out myself. Patrice, you have to send me your address, Haley did already. So, for all you others: It is not difficult to get spare pots. I googled shops here in germany: www.henri-elektronik.de or www.reichelt-elektronik.de, type into the search line something like: poti mono 4mm and you will get results, at Reichelt you can see a picture to get an idea, how the item has to look like, if you want to search for it in your own countries. One poti costs only a few cents (!!!!) there, but careful, they charge 8 Euro for advance payment and 10 Euro minimum order value at henri.
Regards
Michael

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