Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

I would guess Dolby have had someone sample the originals just for his
use...

electronically yours, jesper
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Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp

"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)

----- Original Message -----
From: "hauke11de" <hauke@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 PM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?


> Hi everybody!
>
> This might be some kind of blasphemical, but Iright now am watching the
> Thomas Dolby-
> DVD of his last tour and do not see any Simmons-Gear on stage, but head
> some Simmons-
> Sounds. So I thought: are there any Collections of Simmons-Sounds out
> there worth buying?
>
> I am especially looking for sounds of the SDS5 as I don't have any MIDI
> for my own SDS5 and
> have sold almost all my hardware (mixer, synths etc.) I only work on a Mac
> with Logic now.
>
> So any hint or suggestion is highly appreciated... maybe even on the
> german market?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance
> Hauke
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

In this age of softsynths, wouldn't it be cool to have a Simmons
collection with all the Simmons kits with the original layouts (kind
of like what ReBirth did for the 303 and 909)?
If only we could convince some of the manufacturers to get behind it
(either Arturia, Native Instruments or Steinberg) and get the
blessing of Dave himself. We'd soon be in Simmons heaven.

Thomas

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> I would guess Dolby have had someone sample the originals just for
his
> use...
>
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hauke11de" <hauke@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 PM
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>
>
> > Hi everybody!
> >
> > This might be some kind of blasphemical, but Iright now am
watching the
> > Thomas Dolby-
> > DVD of his last tour and do not see any Simmons-Gear on stage,
but head
> > some Simmons-
> > Sounds. So I thought: are there any Collections of Simmons-Sounds
out
> > there worth buying?
> >
> > I am especially looking for sounds of the SDS5 as I don't have
any MIDI
> > for my own SDS5 and
> > have sold almost all my hardware (mixer, synths etc.) I only work
on a Mac
> > with Logic now.
> >
> > So any hint or suggestion is highly appreciated... maybe even on
the
> > german market?
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance
> > Hauke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Nope, we'd be in Simmons hell!

Imagine all young PC rascals _thinking_ they've found the real sound. Scary
thought...

electronically yours, jesper - not even with a PC in the studio
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp

"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?


In this age of softsynths, wouldn't it be cool to have a Simmons
collection with all the Simmons kits with the original layouts (kind
of like what ReBirth did for the 303 and 909)?
If only we could convince some of the manufacturers to get behind it
(either Arturia, Native Instruments or Steinberg) and get the
blessing of Dave himself. We'd soon be in Simmons heaven.

Thomas

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> I would guess Dolby have had someone sample the originals just for
his
> use...
>
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hauke11de" <hauke@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 PM
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>
>
> > Hi everybody!
> >
> > This might be some kind of blasphemical, but Iright now am
watching the
> > Thomas Dolby-
> > DVD of his last tour and do not see any Simmons-Gear on stage,
but head
> > some Simmons-
> > Sounds. So I thought: are there any Collections of Simmons-Sounds
out
> > there worth buying?
> >
> > I am especially looking for sounds of the SDS5 as I don't have
any MIDI
> > for my own SDS5 and
> > have sold almost all my hardware (mixer, synths etc.) I only work
on a Mac
> > with Logic now.
> >
> > So any hint or suggestion is highly appreciated... maybe even on
the
> > german market?
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance
> > Hauke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>





Yahoo! Groups Links

Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't
understand what you mean by PC rascals.

Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a tool
that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean they
can make proper music with it, right?

For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my
computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware. That might be
because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't buy
it). But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling
the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that a
software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
expect it would come very close to the original.

Respectfully
Thomas

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> Nope, we'd be in Simmons hell!
>
> Imagine all young PC rascals _thinking_ they've found the real
sound. Scary
> thought...
>
> electronically yours, jesper - not even with a PC in the studio
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>
>
> In this age of softsynths, wouldn't it be cool to have a Simmons
> collection with all the Simmons kits with the original layouts (kind
> of like what ReBirth did for the 303 and 909)?
> If only we could convince some of the manufacturers to get behind it
> (either Arturia, Native Instruments or Steinberg) and get the
> blessing of Dave himself. We'd soon be in Simmons heaven.
>
> Thomas
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@> wrote:
> >
> > I would guess Dolby have had someone sample the originals just for
> his
> > use...
> >
> > electronically yours, jesper
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
> > Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> > split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
> >
> > "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "hauke11de" <hauke@>
> > To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 PM
> > Subject: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
> >
> >
> > > Hi everybody!
> > >
> > > This might be some kind of blasphemical, but Iright now am
> watching the
> > > Thomas Dolby-
> > > DVD of his last tour and do not see any Simmons-Gear on stage,
> but head
> > > some Simmons-
> > > Sounds. So I thought: are there any Collections of Simmons-
Sounds
> out
> > > there worth buying?
> > >
> > > I am especially looking for sounds of the SDS5 as I don't have
> any MIDI
> > > for my own SDS5 and
> > > have sold almost all my hardware (mixer, synths etc.) I only
work
> on a Mac
> > > with Logic now.
> > >
> > > So any hint or suggestion is highly appreciated... maybe even on
> the
> > > german market?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot in advance
> > > Hauke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>

> Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't

understand what you mean by PC rascals.

"PC Rascal" is a 17-year old kid into techno music thinking there is no such
things as instruments outside the screen.;)

> Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a tool

that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean they
can make proper music with it, right?

Most certainly not... They can have all the emulating software they want (if
they pay for it or download shareware that is) - I don't care, but I'm so
fed up with the views that it "sound as good" or "even better" etc. See what
happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit. People came
here with questions none of us felt like answering...

> For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my

computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware.

That's you... :)

> That might be

because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't buy
it).

Probably! (totally honest here)

> But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling

the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that a
software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
expect it would come very close to the original.

To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just the sound
that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this weekend
changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it out and
going for a soft version. It's not just because I love that old boy but also
because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a screen. But
I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so.

As a dane you could compare the prices in "Den Blå Avis" och "Gul og Gratis"
not to mention stores in Copenhagen and you'll see that people have a thing
for the real deal... There must be some reason why people pay 4000 DKK for a
SDS-V if they can download samples and emulate it as good...

Time will tell what happens... :)

electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp

"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)

I am looking forward to tons of postings in a sensless discussion. As
sensless as the never ending discussions about Windows vs. Mac, real
drums vs. electronic drums, harddisk vs. 2" tape machines, piano vs.
synth, etc etc
Nobody of you will ever become convinced by the other side.

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>
> > Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't
> understand what you mean by PC rascals.
>
> "PC Rascal" is a 17-year old kid into techno music thinking there is
no such
> things as instruments outside the screen.;)
>
> > Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a tool
> that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean they
> can make proper music with it, right?
>
> Most certainly not... They can have all the emulating software they
want (if
> they pay for it or download shareware that is) - I don't care, but
I'm so
> fed up with the views that it "sound as good" or "even better" etc.
See what
> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit.
People came
> here with questions none of us felt like answering...
>
> > For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my
> computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware.
>
> That's you... :)
>
> > That might be
> because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
> chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't buy
> it).
>
> Probably! (totally honest here)
>
> > But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling
> the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that a
> software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
> expect it would come very close to the original.
>
> To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just
the sound
> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this weekend
> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it
out and
> going for a soft version. It's not just because I love that old boy
but also
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
screen. But
> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so.
>
> As a dane you could compare the prices in "Den Blå Avis" och "Gul og
Gratis"
> not to mention stores in Copenhagen and you'll see that people have
a thing
> for the real deal... There must be some reason why people pay 4000
DKK for a
> SDS-V if they can download samples and emulate it as good...
>
> Time will tell what happens... :)
>
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>

You're not gone win this one on Jesper
Some like the sound, others like owning those beauties
Who gives a F^%K
The MUSIC matters
don't get me wrong, I also fell in love with technology and making the upmost
weird samples and squek skwoink noise
But since there was no limitation my ideas started to drift away
(besides this is a pure personal thought)
I mean I own a 128 Mb Ram 10 outputs 8 Gb with 300 effects Yamaha A3000
sampler
BUt I always had more fun with my sleacy S330 from Roland with none of this
a board
It made me a lot more creative

The things we talk about is gear, and they are supposed to be tools
and that's all there is to it
If you make some good stuff on a tapedeck, and that works for you, don't
let noone tell you what to do and go for that. But if you need a Mac book
dual core
2 Ghz with a 64 in/out sound board with adat wifi and god knows what else
, that's fine to. What matters is: find out what works for YOU

I use both ways, fine for me

Good luck

Berk

PS Even the longest journey, starts with one step

>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:14:39 -0000
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't
>understand what you mean by PC rascals.
>
>Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a tool
>that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean they
>can make proper music with it, right?
>
>For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my
>computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware. That might be
>because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
>chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't buy
>it). But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling
>the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that a
>software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
>expect it would come very close to the original.
>
>Respectfully
>Thomas
>
>
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>>
>> Nope, we'd be in Simmons hell!
>>
>> Imagine all young PC rascals _thinking_ they've found the real
>sound. Scary
>> thought...
>>
>> electronically yours, jesper - not even with a PC in the studio
>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>> www.electronic-obsession.se
>>
>> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>>
>> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>>
>>
>> In this age of softsynths, wouldn't it be cool to have a Simmons
>> collection with all the Simmons kits with the original layouts (kind
>> of like what ReBirth did for the 303 and 909)?
>> If only we could convince some of the manufacturers to get behind it
>> (either Arturia, Native Instruments or Steinberg) and get the
>> blessing of Dave himself. We'd soon be in Simmons heaven.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would guess Dolby have had someone sample the originals just for
>> his
>> > use...
>> >
>> > electronically yours, jesper
>> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>> > www.electronic-obsession.se
>> >
>> > Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>> > split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>> >
>> > "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "hauke11de" <hauke@>
>> > To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 PM
>> > Subject: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi everybody!
>> > >
>> > > This might be some kind of blasphemical, but Iright now am
>> watching the
>> > > Thomas Dolby-
>> > > DVD of his last tour and do not see any Simmons-Gear on stage,
>> but head
>> > > some Simmons-
>> > > Sounds. So I thought: are there any Collections of Simmons-
>Sounds
>> out
>> > > there worth buying?
>> > >
>> > > I am especially looking for sounds of the SDS5 as I don't have
>> any MIDI
>> > > for my own SDS5 and
>> > > have sold almost all my hardware (mixer, synths etc.) I only
>work
>> on a Mac
>> > > with Logic now.
>> > >
>> > > So any hint or suggestion is highly appreciated... maybe even on
>> the
>> > > german market?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks a lot in advance
>> > > Hauke
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>
>

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Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)

"See what

> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit.

People came

> here with questions none of us felt like answering..."

I'm totally with you on that one. I too was appalled when I found out
they were peddeling a pile of junk under the Simmons name.

"To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just
the sound

> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this

weekend

> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it

out and

> going for a soft version."

Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)

It's not just because I love that old boy but also

> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a

screen. But

> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."

I think it's you. :-)

But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.
But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would
appreciate a software version.

Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer
dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to
me anyway).

Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and
friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and
resolving to namecalling in other forums.

At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)

See you around

Thomas

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>
> > Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't
> understand what you mean by PC rascals.
>
> "PC Rascal" is a 17-year old kid into techno music thinking there
is no such
> things as instruments outside the screen.;)
>
> > Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a
tool
> that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean
they
> can make proper music with it, right?
>
> Most certainly not... They can have all the emulating software they
want (if
> they pay for it or download shareware that is) - I don't care, but
I'm so
> fed up with the views that it "sound as good" or "even better" etc.
See what
> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit.
People came
> here with questions none of us felt like answering...
>
> > For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my
> computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware.
>
> That's you... :)
>
> > That might be
> because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
> chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't
buy
> it).
>
> Probably! (totally honest here)
>
> > But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling
> the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that
a
> software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
> expect it would come very close to the original.
>
> To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just
the sound
> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this
weekend
> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it
out and
> going for a soft version. It's not just because I love that old boy
but also
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
screen. But
> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so.
>
> As a dane you could compare the prices in "Den Blå Avis" och "Gul
og Gratis"
> not to mention stores in Copenhagen and you'll see that people have
a thing
> for the real deal... There must be some reason why people pay 4000
DKK for a
> SDS-V if they can download samples and emulate it as good...
>
> Time will tell what happens... :)
>
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>

From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>

> Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)

Davs, davs! :)

> Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)

No, but it was a joy afterwards so it did help. And the best thing was that
a polish tech bought all my used sliders for "cheap fixes" on Odysseys in
this neighbourhood...

>> It's not just because I love that old boy but also
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a

screen. But

> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."

> I think it's you. :-)

Fine, no problem with me! :)
"hi group, my name is Jesper and I'm a gear head..."

> But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.

But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would
appreciate a software version.

That wasn't my concern, I think soft synths serves a purpose for everyone
who needs those to get a cheap alternative into music making. But I've never
ever understood the concept of cloning real gear. That's like selling
posters of Mona Lisa and saying you get the same feeling as looking at the
original. My point is; Make a new cool poster instead, that everyone likes
despite the non-historical approach...

> Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer

dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to
me anyway).

I doubt most people would go with the screen if they had the chance to
choose. But once again... it's probably just this retro-bastard who is
narrow-minded enough. ;)
And regarding "only music matters" it's true when you think of the final
product. I have a lot of "soft" records too which are great, but as a music
maker myself I would probably never be doing music if the only option was
this crappy PC and a bunch of cracked software programs and a knob box...

> Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and

friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and
resolving to namecalling in other forums.

Thanks! I'm doing my best after a good start from listowner Scott left the
responsibility to me and left... (still no word I'm afraid)

> At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)

Certainly... I don't like "fleskesteg" or trying to sort out the
differencies between the 10 DKK and the 20 DKK coins either... :)

electronically yours, jesper - just across the bridge from Denmark
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp

"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)

Jesper

100% true, wise words

Berk

PS I wish I had the cash (and space) to have all my plugins as "real" hardware

>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>From: <jesper@...>
>Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:35:28 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>> Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)
>
>Davs, davs! :)
>
>> Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)
>
>No, but it was a joy afterwards so it did help. And the best thing was that
>
>a polish tech bought all my used sliders for "cheap fixes" on Odysseys in
>
>this neighbourhood...
>
>>> It's not just because I love that old boy but also
>> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
>screen. But
>> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."
>
>> I think it's you. :-)
>
>Fine, no problem with me! :)
>"hi group, my name is Jesper and I'm a gear head..."
>
>> But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.
>But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would
>appreciate a software version.
>
>That wasn't my concern, I think soft synths serves a purpose for everyone
>
>who needs those to get a cheap alternative into music making. But I've never
>
>ever understood the concept of cloning real gear. That's like selling
>posters of Mona Lisa and saying you get the same feeling as looking at the
>
>original. My point is; Make a new cool poster instead, that everyone likes
>
>despite the non-historical approach...
>
>> Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer
>dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to
>me anyway).
>
>I doubt most people would go with the screen if they had the chance to
>choose. But once again... it's probably just this retro-bastard who is
>narrow-minded enough. ;)
>And regarding "only music matters" it's true when you think of the final
>
>product. I have a lot of "soft" records too which are great, but as a music
>
>maker myself I would probably never be doing music if the only option was
>
>this crappy PC and a bunch of cracked software programs and a knob box...
>
>> Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and
>friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and
>resolving to namecalling in other forums.
>
>Thanks! I'm doing my best after a good start from listowner Scott left the
>
>responsibility to me and left... (still no word I'm afraid)
>
>> At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)
>
>Certainly... I don't like "fleskesteg" or trying to sort out the
>differencies between the 10 DKK and the 20 DKK coins either... :)
>
>electronically yours, jesper - just across the bridge from Denmark
>- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>www.electronic-obsession.se
>
>Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
>"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>

________________________________________________________________________________________
12move ADSL: Voordelig, snel en onbeperkt internet.
Meer informatie vind je op http://adsl.12move.nl

Plugins? You mean the cards in the SDS_V or SDS-7 right? ;)

electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp

"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:44 PM
Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?


Jesper

100% true, wise words

Berk

PS I wish I had the cash (and space) to have all my plugins as "real"
hardware






>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>From: <jesper@...>
>Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:35:28 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>> Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)
>
>Davs, davs! :)
>
>> Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)
>
>No, but it was a joy afterwards so it did help. And the best thing was that
>
>a polish tech bought all my used sliders for "cheap fixes" on Odysseys in
>
>this neighbourhood...
>
>>> It's not just because I love that old boy but also
>> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
>screen. But
>> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."
>
>> I think it's you. :-)
>
>Fine, no problem with me! :)
>"hi group, my name is Jesper and I'm a gear head..."
>
>> But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.
>But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would
>appreciate a software version.
>
>That wasn't my concern, I think soft synths serves a purpose for everyone
>
>who needs those to get a cheap alternative into music making. But I've
>never
>
>ever understood the concept of cloning real gear. That's like selling
>posters of Mona Lisa and saying you get the same feeling as looking at the
>
>original. My point is; Make a new cool poster instead, that everyone likes
>
>despite the non-historical approach...
>
>> Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer
>dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to
>me anyway).
>
>I doubt most people would go with the screen if they had the chance to
>choose. But once again... it's probably just this retro-bastard who is
>narrow-minded enough. ;)
>And regarding "only music matters" it's true when you think of the final
>
>product. I have a lot of "soft" records too which are great, but as a music
>
>maker myself I would probably never be doing music if the only option was
>
>this crappy PC and a bunch of cracked software programs and a knob box...
>
>> Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and
>friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and
>resolving to namecalling in other forums.
>
>Thanks! I'm doing my best after a good start from listowner Scott left the
>
>responsibility to me and left... (still no word I'm afraid)
>
>> At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)
>
>Certainly... I don't like "fleskesteg" or trying to sort out the
>differencies between the 10 DKK and the 20 DKK coins either... :)
>
>electronically yours, jesper - just across the bridge from Denmark
>- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>www.electronic-obsession.se
>
>Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
>"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>


________________________________________________________________________________________
12move ADSL: Voordelig, snel en onbeperkt internet.
Meer informatie vind je op http://adsl.12move.nl






Yahoo! Groups Links

nope

Berk

>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>From: <jesper@...>
>Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:45:11 +0200
>Subject: Re: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Plugins? You mean the cards in the SDS_V or SDS-7 right? ;)
>
>electronically yours, jesper
>- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>www.electronic-obsession.se
>
>Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
>"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:44 PM
>Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>
>
>Jesper
>
>100% true, wise words
>
>Berk
>
>PS I wish I had the cash (and space) to have all my plugins as "real"
>hardware
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>>From: <jesper@...>
>>Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:35:28 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Sample-CD/DVD of Simmons Drums?
>>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>>From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>>> Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)
>>
>>Davs, davs! :)
>>
>>> Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)
>>
>>No, but it was a joy afterwards so it did help. And the best thing was

that

>>
>>a polish tech bought all my used sliders for "cheap fixes" on Odysseys

in

>>
>>this neighbourhood...
>>
>>>> It's not just because I love that old boy but also
>>> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
>>screen. But
>>> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."
>>
>>> I think it's you. :-)
>>
>>Fine, no problem with me! :)
>>"hi group, my name is Jesper and I'm a gear head..."
>>
>>> But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.
>>But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would
>>appreciate a software version.
>>
>>That wasn't my concern, I think soft synths serves a purpose for everyone
>>
>>who needs those to get a cheap alternative into music making. But I've

>>never
>>
>>ever understood the concept of cloning real gear. That's like selling
>>posters of Mona Lisa and saying you get the same feeling as looking at

the

>>
>>original. My point is; Make a new cool poster instead, that everyone likes
>>
>>despite the non-historical approach...
>>
>>> Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer
>>dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to
>>me anyway).
>>
>>I doubt most people would go with the screen if they had the chance to
>>choose. But once again... it's probably just this retro-bastard who is
>>narrow-minded enough. ;)
>>And regarding "only music matters" it's true when you think of the final
>>
>>product. I have a lot of "soft" records too which are great, but as a music
>>
>>maker myself I would probably never be doing music if the only option was
>>
>>this crappy PC and a bunch of cracked software programs and a knob box...
>>
>>> Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and
>>friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and
>>resolving to namecalling in other forums.
>>
>>Thanks! I'm doing my best after a good start from listowner Scott left

the

>>
>>responsibility to me and left... (still no word I'm afraid)
>>
>>> At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)
>>
>>Certainly... I don't like "fleskesteg" or trying to sort out the
>>differencies between the 10 DKK and the 20 DKK coins either... :)
>>
>>electronically yours, jesper - just across the bridge from Denmark
>>- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>>www.electronic-obsession.se
>>
>>Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>>split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>>
>>"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________________________
>12move ADSL: Voordelig, snel en onbeperkt internet.
>Meer informatie vind je op http://adsl.12move.nl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

________________________________________________________________________________________
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