Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)

"See what 
> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit. 
People came 
> here with questions none of us felt like answering..."

I'm totally with you on that one. I too was appalled when I found out 
they were peddeling a pile of junk under the Simmons name. 

"To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just 
the sound 
> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this 
weekend 
> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it 
out and 
> going for a soft version."

Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)

It's not just because I love that old boy but also 
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a 
screen. But 
> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."

I think it's you. :-)

But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.
But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would 
appreciate a software version. 

Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer 
dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to 
me anyway).

Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and 
friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and 
resolving to namecalling in other forums.

At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)

See you around

Thomas




--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
> 
> > Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't
> understand what you mean by PC rascals.
> 
> "PC Rascal" is a 17-year old kid into techno music thinking there 
is no such 
> things as instruments outside the screen.;)
> 
> > Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a 
tool
> that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean 
they
> can make proper music with it, right?
> 
> Most certainly not... They can have all the emulating software they 
want (if 
> they pay for it or download shareware that is) - I don't care, but 
I'm so 
> fed up with the views that it "sound as good" or "even better" etc. 
See what 
> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit. 
People came 
> here with questions none of us felt like answering...
> 
> > For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my
> computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware.
> 
> That's you... :)
> 
> > That might be
> because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
> chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't 
buy
> it).
> 
> Probably! (totally honest here)
> 
> > But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling
> the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that 
a
> software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
> expect it would come very close to the original.
> 
> To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just 
the sound 
> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this 
weekend 
> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it 
out and 
> going for a soft version. It's not just because I love that old boy 
but also 
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a 
screen. But 
> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so.
> 
> As a dane you could compare the prices in "Den Blå Avis" och "Gul 
og Gratis" 
> not to mention stores in Copenhagen and you'll see that people have 
a thing 
> for the real deal... There must be some reason why people pay 4000 
DKK for a 
> SDS-V if they can download samples and emulate it as good...
> 
> Time will tell what happens... :)
> 
> electronically yours, jesper
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