Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hey,
that's a shame !
In this case I would straight get my money back and hope you've paid  
with Paypal...
Best,
Thomas

On May 22, 2009, at 6:06 PM, flowline wrote:

>>
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I recently won the sds3 from Ryan on ebay,
> None of the channels work correctly or even near correctly, all
> channels do make a sound of sorts but its VERY obvious its very sick,
> sounds awful, i know what sds3's are supposed to sound like and this
> is just obviously broken.
> I presumed from the auction description that it was working, I just
> emailed Ryan to let him know it was broken and I feel ripped off, he
> replied saying:
> ---------------------------
> Hi robert,
> Im sorry to hear your not happy with the SDS3.
> Firstly let me say I have and never will seek to 'rip anyone off' and
> im not happy at such insinuation.
> Secondly Im more than happy with the description i gave while
> advertising the SDS3. I have read over it and it's thorough,
> descriptive and a totally honest assessment of what state the machine
> is in given to the best of my limited drum synth and electronic
> knowledge.
> If you read the description again you will see i state quite clearly
> that i am neither an expert on drum synths,SDS3's or electronics. I
> state clearly the fact i have no knowledge of a fully working SDS3
> other than the research i did while listing the machine.I tested the
> SDS3 to the best of my ability and gave a 100% accurate description of
> its current functionality.Testament to the comprehensive description i
> gave is that despite over 500 views and at one time 40 watches i
> received not one question about the machine other than about postage
> and that includes from you.
> If you already own two SDS3's you are obviously far more informed as i
> am to the functionality of them but at the same time, clearly aware of
> the problems that come with an analogue synth built by hand in the
> early 80's. I even acknowledge some of the caps would need replacing.
> Unless your telling me the machine is 100% dead, if i did have any
> sound recordings they would only confirm the current state the machine
> was in when it left my possession, and that it probably is in now.
> Let me stress again, i have had this machine for 15, 16 years and
> never used it as im not an enthusiast.I Cleaned it up and gave an
> accurate description with plenty of warnings, advice and disclaimers.
> Im sure you would have picked up that im not an expert as i stated
> such, so im confused as to why, given you knowledge of SDS3's in
> owning two of them you never raised any questions with me before
> bidding. Im sorry you feel 'ripped off' but i stand by my description
> and honesty.
> - ryanforrest
> -------------------------
> I think this is a joke considering hes had it all that time, I think
> he would or should have worked out by now it doesnt work !
> Not even an offer to pay for its repair.
> but maybe im too emotional having plonked all that money down on it
> which is why I thought Id see what you guys think about it, maybe I
> just wanted to believe it was working so much I couldnt see that it
> was broken by the description.
> Any thoughts much appreciated,
>
> Thank you,
> Robert.
>
>> The buyer will have fun till the end of his life. Therefor it is
>> more or less a bargain.
>> God, I am glad that I invested my money in Simmons gear rather than
>> stocks
>>
>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I consider it the best drum synth in my arsenal and it's a rare
>> beast,
>>> but no, I wouldn't pay that kind of money for it. I thought I
>> spent good
>>> money for a broken one, but that came with pads, manuals and even
>> receipt.
>>> On the other hand, same things can be said about Minimoogs changing
>>> owners at 2500 euros or more.
>>>
>>> --
>>> electronically yours, jesper
>>>
>>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>>> www.electronic-obsession.se
>>> www.myspace.com/machinepop
>>>
>>>
>>> Berk Aarts skrev:
>>>> is this worth the pay??
>>>> Berk
>>>>
>>>>> -- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>>>>> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> From: jesper <jesper@...>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:21:58 +0200
>>>>> Subject: [Simmons Drums] sds-3, congrats Ryan!
>>>>> Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi list... talk about hausse!
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200339867511
>>>>> That was more than I could ever imagine it selling for. :-o
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations Ryan!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> electronically yours, jesper
>>>>>
>>>>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>>>>> www.electronic-obsession.se
>>>>> www.myspace.com/machinepop
>>>
>>
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Thomas P. Heckmann
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