Marcos Maniacs

> Mike Denman
> 1966 Marcos 1800
> Chassis #4079

> to 
> > post the pictures and will keep everyone updated on my progress 
> since 
> > this is a fairly common problem and typical repair on fiberglass 
> cars.
> > Mike Denman
> > 1966 Marcos 1800
> > Chassis #4079

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	RockStar30Cars@... [SMTP:RockStar30Cars@...]
> Sent:	Monday, November 05, 2001 9:47 AM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> 
> Hello Marcos Maniacs, I would like to know if there are any LM600's in the
> 
> US? I had on my list for a new car and was looking at the Lotus (0-60 in 4
> 
> sec) I finally sold my 83 Porsche Cab, I didn't like the Idea of pulling
> at a 
> light and seeing a clone. So the Lotus was my choice because I have seen
> only 
> a 5 on the street, but one of my coworkers collects model cars and had a
> book 
> and I saw the LM600GT he didn't know what it was but since I have Rovers
> just 
> to see the body I knew what it was and had him get me one. I then made up
> my 
> mind I wanted one, there is a 98 Viper and a Grand National on my block I 
> think there should be a nice car here other than my others.
> 
> Alvin (TopDogRover) Maybe a LM500 or 400 would be better for me!
> 
> 59 Hillman Minx Estate
> 61 MK2 Jaguar
> 63 Hillman Super Minx
> 64 Rover P5
> 65 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
> 65,66,67 Sunbeam Alpine Conv.
> 67 Dodge Dart GT slant 6
> 69 Sunbeam Alpine Coupes (4) 2 are GT's with Rover V8's
> 70 Rover P6B (2)
> 73 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
> 73 TR6
> 80 Rover 3500 SD1 (16) yes 16 keeping 4 one auto, one 5sp, one has been 
> converted -----to Buick 455 (Rover 6600 SD1) and looking for a Buick Grand
> 
> National engine for ------the  ----fourth
> 80 Triumph Spitfire
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	RockStar30Cars@... [SMTP:RockStar30Cars@...]
> Sent:	Monday, November 05, 2001 12:10 PM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> 
> Thanks Dave, but a problem I have is that I usually get what I want
> spoiled 
> from childhood. Although in 1993 I did pass on a brand new 1987 Aston
> Martin 
> Lagonda (last new on in the world at Newport Imports Newport Beach 
> California) for $150.000 I just purchased my home and I did think about it
> 
> but being a single parent of three I would have had to have the back seat
> for 
> myself. The Porsche I got through a bad deal with a still good friend, I
> dont 
> cosign or buy anything of value anymore. Like another friend just got an
> 1982 
> Maserati Quattroporte and wanted to know if he could put it in my name if 
> anything happened to him, ha ha ha never again lesion learned
> 
> Alvin (TopDogRover)
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-----Original Message-----
From: RockStar30Cars@... [mailto:RockStar30Cars@...] 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:47 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
 
Hello Marcos Maniacs, I would like to know if there are any LM600's in
the 
US? I had on my list for a new car and was looking at the Lotus (0-60 in
4 
sec) I finally sold my 83 Porsche Cab, I didn't like the Idea of pulling
at a 
light and seeing a clone. So the Lotus was my choice because I have seen
only 
a 5 on the street, but one of my coworkers collects model cars and had a
book 
and I saw the LM600GT he didn't know what it was but since I have Rovers
just 
to see the body I knew what it was and had him get me one. I then made
up my 
mind I wanted one, there is a 98 Viper and a Grand National on my block
I 
think there should be a nice car here other than my others.

Alvin (TopDogRover) Maybe a LM500 or 400 would be better for me!

59 Hillman Minx Estate
61 MK2 Jaguar
63 Hillman Super Minx
64 Rover P5
65 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
65,66,67 Sunbeam Alpine Conv.
67 Dodge Dart GT slant 6
69 Sunbeam Alpine Coupes (4) 2 are GT's with Rover V8's
70 Rover P6B (2)
73 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
73 TR6
80 Rover 3500 SD1 (16) yes 16 keeping 4 one auto, one 5sp, one has been 
converted -----to Buick 455 (Rover 6600 SD1) and looking for a Buick
Grand 
National engine for ------the  ----fourth
80 Triumph Spitfire




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-----Original Message-----
From: RockStar30Cars@... [mailto:RockStar30Cars@...] 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:32 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
 
Thanks Jeff, I'm not rich but I do watch my money if I can only stay off
eBay 
and away from ladies that want a man for his money (gold diggers). Being

single and a good job, I dont know if Union is any help but being a
mechanic 
does. Thanks for the links I guess there isnt a market here because of
the 
DOT what state are you in?

Alvin (TopDogRover) maybe I can get a body and install my own engine
like the 
Westfield/Lotus 7 (thinking watch out world)




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Hi All,

I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people see my car finally, one comment keeps popping up.

\u201cIs the nose supposed to be that high\u201d?

Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this from an outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the pictures in the group photo section to see what I am talking about.

Does anyone else\u2019s car have the same characteristics? I think I saw a yellow car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked as if it did the same thing.

Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine was actually sprung for a heavier engine or something\u2026.

Anyone???.....

Thanks,

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jeff Caraway [SMTP:DovenWolf@...]
> Sent:	Monday, November 05, 2001 1:52 PM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> 
> Hi Alvin,
> I am in North Carolina, and the DMV here is giving me all sorts of
> problems with my 1984 GT. It has an early 70s Capri 2.8 liter V6 in it
> which doesn't have a hope in hell of passing emissions, but yet, they
> still want it to because of the year of the "manufacture". You would
> probably face the same thing if you brought over an LM and lived somewhere
> with fairly strict DMV requirements. Those dealers might be able to give
> you a better idea of what you face.
> I'm not sure if they still sell kits for import to the US, but that could
> be a possibility. Then you are open to whatever power plant you want.
>  
> BTW, nice collection! I meant to comment on that earlier.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RockStar30Cars@... [mailto:RockStar30Cars@...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:32 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
>  
> Thanks Jeff, I'm not rich but I do watch my money if I can only stay off
> eBay 
> and away from ladies that want a man for his money (gold diggers). Being 
> single and a good job, I dont know if Union is any help but being a
> mechanic 
> does. Thanks for the links I guess there isnt a market here because of the
> 
> DOT what state are you in?
> 
> Alvin (TopDogRover) maybe I can get a body and install my own engine like
> the 
> Westfield/Lotus 7 (thinking watch out world)
> 
> 
> 
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Skora [mailto:David@...] 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:01 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
 
Hello Jeff
Hi, am unable to access the Marcos site from my favorites. It worked
last
week just fine. What's a Marcos lover to do?
Dave (5006)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:      Jeff Caraway [SMTP:DovenWolf@...]
> Sent:      Monday, November 05, 2001 1:52 PM
> To:      MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:      RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> 
> Hi Alvin,
> I am in North Carolina, and the DMV here is giving me all sorts of
> problems with my 1984 GT. It has an early 70s Capri 2.8 liter V6 in it
> which doesn't have a hope in hell of passing emissions, but yet, they
> still want it to because of the year of the "manufacture". You would
> probably face the same thing if you brought over an LM and lived
somewhere
> with fairly strict DMV requirements. Those dealers might be able to
give
> you a better idea of what you face.
> I'm not sure if they still sell kits for import to the US, but that
could
> be a possibility. Then you are open to whatever power plant you want.
>  
> BTW, nice collection! I meant to comment on that earlier.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RockStar30Cars@... [mailto:RockStar30Cars@...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:32 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
>  
> Thanks Jeff, I'm not rich but I do watch my money if I can only stay
off
> eBay 
> and away from ladies that want a man for his money (gold diggers).
Being 
> single and a good job, I dont know if Union is any help but being a
> mechanic 
> does. Thanks for the links I guess there isnt a market here because of
the
> 
> DOT what state are you in?
> 
> Alvin (TopDogRover) maybe I can get a body and install my own engine
like
> the 
> Westfield/Lotus 7 (thinking watch out world)
> 
> 
> 
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From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Hi Paul,

Thanks for replying!

What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The front is definitely higher than the back.

I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I measured from the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the front wheel and in front of the rear wheel.

I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the same amount.

Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?

Right now it has Spax shocks.

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

-----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Jeff,

Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that the nose is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be parallel to the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same front and rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road surface is sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the rear causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be heavy enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the easy way to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you to adjust the height by a couple of inches.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield

3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Hi All,

I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people see my car finally, one comment keeps popping up.

\u201cIs the nose supposed to be that high\u201d?

Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this from an outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the pictures in the group photo section to see what I am talking about.

Does anyone else\u2019s car have the same characteristics? I think I saw a yellow car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked as if it did the same thing.

Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine was actually sprung for a heavier engine or something\u2026.

Anyone???.....

Thanks,

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jeff Caraway [SMTP:DovenWolf@...]
> Sent:	Monday, November 05, 2001 2:13 PM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> 
> Hi Dave,
> Sorry you are having trouble!
> Here is the link:
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MarcosManiacs>
>  
> It may want you to sign in, so look for a link on the right side towards
> the top that read "sign in".
> Click that link and fill in your Yahoo userid and your password to get in.
> It will then take you back to the group, and you can have fun again.
>  
> Jeff
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Skora [mailto:David@...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:01 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
>  
> Hello Jeff
> Hi, am unable to access the Marcos site from my favorites. It worked last
> week just fine. What's a Marcos lover to do?
> Dave (5006)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:      Jeff Caraway [SMTP:DovenWolf@...]
> > Sent:      Monday, November 05, 2001 1:52 PM
> > To:      MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:      RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> > 
> > Hi Alvin,
> > I am in North Carolina, and the DMV here is giving me all sorts of
> > problems with my 1984 GT. It has an early 70s Capri 2.8 liter V6 in it
> > which doesn't have a hope in hell of passing emissions, but yet, they
> > still want it to because of the year of the "manufacture". You would
> > probably face the same thing if you brought over an LM and lived
> somewhere
> > with fairly strict DMV requirements. Those dealers might be able to give
> > you a better idea of what you face.
> > I'm not sure if they still sell kits for import to the US, but that
> could
> > be a possibility. Then you are open to whatever power plant you want.
> >  
> > BTW, nice collection! I meant to comment on that earlier.
> >  
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RockStar30Cars@... [mailto:RockStar30Cars@...] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:32 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Projects in process
> >  
> > Thanks Jeff, I'm not rich but I do watch my money if I can only stay off
> > eBay 
> > and away from ladies that want a man for his money (gold diggers). Being
> 
> > single and a good job, I dont know if Union is any help but being a
> > mechanic 
> > does. Thanks for the links I guess there isnt a market here because of
> the
> > 
> > DOT what state are you in?
> > 
> > Alvin (TopDogRover) maybe I can get a body and install my own engine
> like
> > the 
> > Westfield/Lotus 7 (thinking watch out world)
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Huh, that sounds like a plan!

I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are VERY rusty.

Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?

Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where you got them?

Thanks,

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

-----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Jeff,

I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a looooonnnngggg time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they were the same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos Owners Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I understand you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though you may need to take out a second mortgage.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield

3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Hi Paul,

Thanks for replying!

What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The front is definitely higher than the back.

I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I measured from the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the front wheel and in front of the rear wheel.

I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the same amount.

Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?

Right now it has Spax shocks.

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

-----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Jeff,

Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that the nose is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be parallel to the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same front and rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road surface is sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the rear causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be heavy enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the easy way to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you to adjust the height by a couple of inches.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield

3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Hi All,

I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people see my car finally, one comment keeps popping up.

\u201cIs the nose supposed to be that high\u201d?

Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this from an outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the pictures in the group photo section to see what I am talking about.

Does anyone else\u2019s car have the same characteristics? I think I saw a yellow car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked as if it did the same thing.

Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine was actually sprung for a heavier engine or something\u2026.

Anyone???.....

Thanks,

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

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-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
 
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
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-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 12:26 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
 
                                                                      
Hey Jeff,
       WWW.SUMMITRACING.COM is the web site ,they are the biggest 
aftermarket speedshop in the world.The springs are a direct 
replacement . The shocks might require you to find longer sleeves to 
go through the top and bottom bushings of the shock.The shocks I got 
had eyes on both ends(it was previously modified for racing) the rear 
shocks on your car probably have a stud on the bottom but I am sure 
you can get both styles.
                  Cheers Dave #5577 
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  --- 
In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Thanks for the info!
> Do those guys have a website?
> Were the springs pretty much direct replacements, or did they 
require
> any mods to fit?
> How about the shocks?
>  
> Jeff Caraway 
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> > Hey Paul,
>         You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
> purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
> springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
> quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
> adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
>      HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
>      HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
>      HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
>                     Cheers Dave #5577   
>                                                                     
  
>                                                                     
  
>                                                                     
  
>                                                                   
> Jeff,
> >  
> > Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
> chassis cars
> > are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
> what I can
> > remember. 
> >  
> > Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
> packaging
> > for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
> Aurora.
> > When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
> is
> > printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll 
let 
> you
> > know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners 
Club 
> for a
> > very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
> fuss with
> > Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
> basically
> > supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
> the club,
> > which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory 
McMath 
> started
> > Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
> me
> > (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
> years ago
> > and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
> >  
> > I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
> are still
> > working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few 
years.
> > However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put 
the 
> Konis on
> > the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
> seems to
> > have worked very well.
> >  
> > I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
> to see if
> > the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
> However, as
> > an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
> through the
> > club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> > 
> > 
> > Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> > I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they 
are 
> VERY
> > rusty.
> > Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> > Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
> you got
> > them?
> >  
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> >  
> > Jeff,
> >  
> > I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
> looooonnnngggg
> > time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
> were the
> > same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
> Owners
> > Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
> understand
> > you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
> you may
> > need to take out a second mortgage. 
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> > Hi Paul,
> > Thanks for replying!
> > What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
> front is
> > definitely higher than the back.
> > I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
> measured from
> > the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
> front
> > wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> > I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about 
the 
> same
> > amount.
> > Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> > Right now it has Spax shocks.
> >  
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> >  
> > Jeff,
> >  
> > Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear 
that 
> the nose
> > is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
> parallel to
> > the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
> front and
> > rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
> surface is
> > sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
> rear
> > causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to 
be 
> heavy
> > enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
> easy way
> > to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
> to adjust
> > the height by a couple of inches. 
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> >  
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> > Hi All,
> > I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
> see my car
> > finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> > "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> > Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have 
a
> > somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And 
this 
> from an
> > outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
> pictures in
> > the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> > Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I 
saw 
> a yellow
> > car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
> as if it
> > did the same thing.
> > Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe 
mine 
> was
> > actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> > Anyone???.....
> >  
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
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-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
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 -----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:03 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Hi guys,

I took another look at the club magazine last night and found that the
shocks and springs were listed after all at £82 and £28 each respectively,
though the brand of shocks was not identified.

Regards,
        Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:39 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Adjustable shocks....


OK,
This is a silly question I know, but how can you tell if you have adjustable
shocks and how do you adjust them?
My Spax have little gold screws on the side near the bottom of the shock
(the end near the ground). Does that mean they are adjustable?
If I wanted to lower my nose, what would I have to do besides compress the
spring around the shock? 
 
 
Jeff Caraway
#8052 1984 V6 GT
 
 
 
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:39 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Adjustable shocks....


OK,
This is a silly question I know, but how can you tell if you have adjustable
shocks and how do you adjust them?
My Spax have little gold screws on the side near the bottom of the shock
(the end near the ground). Does that mean they are adjustable?
If I wanted to lower my nose, what would I have to do besides compress the
spring around the shock? 
 
 
Jeff Caraway
#8052 1984 V6 GT
 
 
 
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald McLeod [mailto:ronald.mcleod@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:12 PM
To: 'MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Guys . . .
 
I have just acquired and installed a set of rear shock absorbers for my
Mantis.  I got them through Rory MacMath.  They are Spax adjustables.  Not
surprisingly, Spax did not have a listing for the Mantis, but Rory was able
to find a Mantis, and measure the shocks on it, and then worked with Spax to
find a suitable shock absorber.  Cost including shipping was GBP300 - about
US$450.
 
Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858  

 -----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:03 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Hi guys,

I took another look at the club magazine last night and found that the
shocks and springs were listed after all at £82 and £28 each respectively,
though the brand of shocks was not identified.

Regards,
        Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
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-----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@iname.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 3:34 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Ron,
 
That sound exhorbitant. Can you provide a breakdown of the costs involved.
If the shocks are only £82 each, how did the total cost become £300?  Were
you given the option of getting Konis? 
 
Regards,
                Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald McLeod [mailto:ronald.mcleod@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:12 PM
To: 'MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Guys . . .
 
I have just acquired and installed a set of rear shock absorbers for my
Mantis.  I got them through Rory MacMath.  They are Spax adjustables.  Not
surprisingly, Spax did not have a listing for the Mantis, but Rory was able
to find a Mantis, and measure the shocks on it, and then worked with Spax to
find a suitable shock absorber.  Cost including shipping was GBP300 - about
US$450.
 
Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858  

 -----Original Message-----
From: pauldransfield@... [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:03 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Hi guys,

I took another look at the club magazine last night and found that the
shocks and springs were listed after all at £82 and £28 each respectively,
though the brand of shocks was not identified.

Regards,
        Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeff Caraway 
  To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:39 AM
  Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Adjustable shocks....


  OK,

  This is a silly question I know, but how can you tell if you have adjustable shocks and how do you adjust them?

  My Spax have little gold screws on the side near the bottom of the shock (the end near the ground). Does that mean they are adjustable?

  If I wanted to lower my nose, what would I have to do besides compress the spring around the shock? 

   

   

  Jeff Caraway

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:44 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???

Hi All,

I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people see my car finally, one comment keeps popping up.

\u201cIs the nose supposed to be that high\u201d?

Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this from an outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the pictures in the group photo section to see what I am talking about.

Does anyone else\u2019s car have the same characteristics? I think I saw a yellow car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked as if it did the same thing.

Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine was actually sprung for a heavier engine or something\u2026.

Anyone???.....

Thanks,

Jeff Caraway

#8052 1984 V6 GT

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From: RockStar30Cars@... [mailto:RockStar30Cars@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:02 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Adjustable shocks....
 
Hello Maniacs, who has the latest Marcos in the US and what year and
model?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jeff Caraway [SMTP:DovenWolf@...]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:16 AM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[MarcosManiacs] OK, let's do sway bars now....
> 
> OK group, let's talk sway bars now.
> Mine doesn't have one at all and I can't really see fitting one on as the
> radiator fills the whole front of the frame and would probably be in the
> way.
> What does everyone else have? And can you really notice a difference
> between a car with one and without?
>  
> Jeff Caraway (Yes, I do know what a car is.... Just haven't worked on them
> in years)
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:43 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???


Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info!
Do those guys have a website?
Were the springs pretty much direct replacements, or did they require any
mods to fit?
How about the shocks?
 
Jeff Caraway 
#8052 1984 V6 GT
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
 
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
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