Marcos Maniacs

Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info!
Do those guys have a website?
Were the springs pretty much direct replacements, or did they require
any mods to fit?
How about the shocks?
 
Jeff Caraway 
#8052 1984 V6 GT
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
 
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
        You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
     HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
     HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
     HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
                    Cheers Dave #5577   
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  
Jeff,
>  
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
what I can
> remember. 
>  
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let 
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club 
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath 
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
>  
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the 
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
seems to
> have worked very well.
>  
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> 
> 
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are 
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
you got
> them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the 
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>  
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> Jeff,
>  
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that 
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be 
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this 
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw 
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine 
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
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