Hi guys,
I managed to dig out one of the Koni boxes over the weekend and found the
following code number stamped on it, implying that it's the part number for
the shocks (2 to a box) inside:- 80R - 2365
I'm pretty sure that the front and rear shocks for the Marcos were the same
but I didn't come across the other box to confirm that. I didn't have time
to do a thorough search through all my parts boxes, so I'll take another
look next weekend if I have time.
Regards,
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:43 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info!
Do those guys have a website?
Were the springs pretty much direct replacements, or did they require any
mods to fit?
How about the shocks?
Jeff Caraway
#8052 1984 V6 GT
-----Original Message-----
From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hey Paul,
You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just
purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good
quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of
adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
Cheers Dave #5577
Jeff,
>
> Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal
chassis cars
> are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from
what I can
> remember.
>
> Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original
packaging
> for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in
Aurora.
> When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number
is
> printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll let
you
> know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners Club
for a
> very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major
fuss with
> Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly,
basically
> supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to
the club,
> which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory McMath
started
> Marcos Heritage Spares. I don't recall exactly how much they cost
me
> (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15
years ago
> and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now.
>
> I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks
are still
> working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few years.
> However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put the
Konis on
> the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it
seems to
> have worked very well.
>
> I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night
to see if
> the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't.
However, as
> an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought
through the
> club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>
>
> Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they are
VERY
> rusty.
> Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where
you got
> them?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>
> Jeff,
>
> I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a
looooonnnngggg
> time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they
were the
> same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos
Owners
> Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I
understand
> you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though
you may
> need to take out a second mortgage.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for replying!
> What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The
front is
> definitely higher than the back.
> I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I
measured from
> the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the
front
> wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about the
same
> amount.
> Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> Right now it has Spax shocks.
>
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>
> Jeff,
>
> Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear that
the nose
> is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be
parallel to
> the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same
front and
> rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road
surface is
> sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the
rear
> causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to be
heavy
> enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the
easy way
> to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you
to adjust
> the height by a couple of inches.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> Hi All,
> I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people
see my car
> finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have a
> somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And this
from an
> outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the
pictures in
> the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I saw
a yellow
> car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked
as if it
> did the same thing.
> Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe mine
was
> actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> Anyone???.....
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Caraway
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>
>
>
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RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
2001-11-26 by pauldransfield@iname.com