Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Leon Heller
... From: Stefan Trethan To: Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Larry Battraw
... It s vector, although it s really a programming language as well. Programs like Ghostscript (or your printer) render the resulting vectors for raster
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
In a message dated 5/12/2003 3:45:18 PM Central Standard Time, ... GOOD question, Chris! NOW: Someone ANSWER, as I wanna know, TOO!!!! Jan Rowland [Non-text
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Chris Graham
It appears that intl-eyelets offers an impressive range of sizes and options. They offer the choice of funnel flange, rolled flange, or flat flange eyelets.
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] HPGL output (was PCB design software)
2003-05-12 by Brian Schmalz
... Yes, it does work OK - and for me I only need OK, not great. Super easy/cheap way to try out a board to get all the bugs out. ... I had to use some really
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
i also tried pstoedit. same results. the reason for plotting to ps with correct holes is maybe that it is done only b/w. so the software has no excuse like
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
this link is great, thank you! i again doubt that there can be any more variety on the eyelet market but in the past i was told the opposite again and again.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] HPGL output (was PCB design software)
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
first sorry for hijacking the post but it showed up some additional software packages also i think. nice to see there has one done the scratch n etch tool i
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Larry Battraw
... Yes, that s what I do currently. ... I tried just that, using a package called pstoedit , which will convert postscript (and other vector formats) to a
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
open drill holes means for me a hole in the drawing in the center of the pad on the copper. this centers the drill in the middle of the pad when hand drilling.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
hmm i have two questions on that: a) does it keep the holes really open? my orcad has also such a option but when i make hpgl export it simply does negative
HPGL output (was PCB design software)
2003-05-12 by Brian Schmalz
I use Eagle for my boards. I have written/modified a User Program (sort of an interpreted C language built into Eagle) that outputs HPGL plot files
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Leon Heller
... From: Ned Konz To: Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Henry Carl Ott
Hi, jumping in for the first time on the list, On the subject of rivets/eyelets, this link may be of interest. (not sure if they have been mentioned before)
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Ned Konz
... What do you mean by open drill holes ? -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Leon Heller
... There isn t any universal standard when it comes to PCB design tools. One important consideration is to choose a package that can read most of the other
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Leon Heller
... Pulsonix, which I use, can output HPGL, and has an option for drill holes: http://www.pulsonix.com It s a lot easier to use then Orcad and has fewer bugs.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by JGraham
First a little background: I ve been using Autotrax EDA as well, and it seems ok. I ve also tried eagle and vutrax. All three don t really seem to meet my
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
i have downloaded eagle. i only tried it some minutes but it seems less powerful than orcad which i use now. the problem is it also doesn t keep the drill
Milling- and/or Router-Bits for machining PCB traces in lieu of etching
2003-05-12 by Jan Rowland
Just received the latest ENCO specials catalog, their HOT DEALS good thru 6/30/03. On page 48 in that issue are CARBIDE 4- and 2-flute mill-bits, both with
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Ned Konz
... You can edit what gets sent to the printer/plotter if you want, as I recall. At least in the Gerber and drill output, there are files with specifications
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
great if it works in eagle. can you get open drill holes for a guidance when drilling? regards stefan
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Larry Battraw
... Yes (in Eagle). I m using it with a HP 7550A and it works great. The only missing option you can t set is the force used; speed, pen width, and pen are
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
may any autotrax user here tell me if it is possible with this software to generate hpgl(1) files? for direct plotting... i found nothing about that in the
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Stefan Trethan
is the price there given in per pack of 100 pieces? or am i wrong? then it would be VERY expensive. but the picture of the riveting tool is nice. it is exactly
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Markus Zingg
... Ok, I do not intend to become Mr. Autotrax here :-) but I was readign the support list for a few weeks and really got the impression that the developper
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Markus Zingg
... Uhmmm, no ofense here, but Windows XP is definately NOT more stalbe than other versions of Windows. W2k or NT are much better here. Never belive the
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Leon Heller
... Someone on the amateur radio QRP list tried it and considered it was unusable, because of all the bugs. He didn t get any response when he posted details
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Markus Zingg
Monte, ... I don t know why it s free. I figure they calculate on selling documentation and support and want to get a big marketshare. Let me state that I m an
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Neil
Alrighty folks, Been busy for the past couple days, but I ve come back with (hopefully) some good news.... a source for eyelets....
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Photosensitizing boards
2003-05-12 by Hans Wedemeyer
They charge $13.75 for a 6 x9 double sided. http://www.web-tronics.com/6x9presdoubs.html I ve used Ocean State for many years They charge $9.50 for the same
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Photosensitizing boards
2003-05-12 by Mike Putnam
Chris, I do not know of a supplier in Canada, but this link -- http://www.web-tronics.com/printed-circuit-board-supplies.html has inexpensive pre-sensitized
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by Chris Graham
Here s my experience with AutoTrax: I tried Autotrax, and it crashed on me a few times, and I lost my work. I m using Windows XP Professional, so maybe it s
Re: PCB design software
2003-05-12 by tamerlane221
Markus, Thank you for the pointer to AutoTRAX. I actually ended up with a number of suggestions from folks on this list but, since you suggested that AutoTRAX
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Mike Putnam
Jan, I also tried re-grinds once to go cheaper on buying so many carbide bits. What I found was that carbide bits usually break before they go dull because
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Mike Putnam
Markus, I would very much be interested in setting up a lab to try out your method. Please send the information when you can. I have always sent boards out for
Re: SP.... oh, OH NO! Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Meta...
2003-05-11 by Stefan Trethan
oh, i m sorry steve, very sorry..... i really dont wan t you to get.. all words i have to look up in a dictionary because they don t tell you in school.....
Re: SPAM: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by Stefan Trethan
hi do you still have access to the press? i think it would be very straightforward to also manufacture the stamp parts. if you still have the unit you maybe
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by Stefan Trethan
i really think you are talking of other bits. the ones i mean are not put in against solid surface. they are stuck in the whole way, up to the upper flange.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Photosensitizing boards
2003-05-11 by Stefan Trethan
spraying will work. also if the laquer is sold in bottles (not pressurized) spraying gives uniform layer. if making small quantities use pressurized cans sold
Re: SPAM: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
Someone in here inquired about the appropriate material for router-bits and drills for PCB work. I responded, but at that time, I had temporarily forgotten
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
In a message dated 5/10/2003 9:33:46 AM Central Standard Time, m.zingg@nct.ch ... Und wir bedanken uns! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Smallest trace?
2003-05-11 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
In a message dated 5/10/2003 4:43:23 AM Central Standard Time, ... Neil: Last time I had taken artwork over to the nearby professional multilayer PTH house I
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
In a message dated 5/10/2003 2:50:02 AM Central Standard Time, ... Those are called eyelets and the conventional way to install them is to first make certain
Photosensitizing boards
2003-05-11 by Chris Graham
What s the easiest way to photosensitize copper boards and get high quality results? I m making double sided boards with traces down to 10 mils. Laminate
Please take SPAM out of the subject line when replying
2003-05-11 by Steve
You raving lunatic moderator, Steve
You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means
2003-05-11 by Steve
OK, that s only funny if you ve seen The Princes Bride. Please don t use the word SPAM in the subject line unless you are trying to alert me to a Spam email
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by Markus Zingg
Ok, let me get a bit more specific. The process obviousely depends on wether a two layer or four layer PCB is to be made. I use 18um copper plated base
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by adam Seychell
Markus Zingg wrote: [deleted] ... Multilayer in 2 - 3 hours ! No offense, but that statement made me laugh. Even if you had a fully automated machines that
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-11 by Nuno-T
Hi, Markus Yes, I’m interested in such a link. Please post it as soon as it is available. Can you tell us more about those chemicals you mentioned? Thank you