Markus, I would very much be interested in setting up a lab to try out your method. Please send the information when you can. I have always sent boards out for through hole plating and, although I wanted to setup to do the plating in-house, I could never extract the information from anyone on how to do so. I am sure there are many on this list who would also like to give it a go. -Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Zingg" <m.zingg@...> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes > Ok, let me get a bit more specific. > > The process obviousely depends on wether a two layer or four layer PCB > is to be made. I use 18um copper plated base material. In case of a > two layer board this is of 1.5 mm thikness, in case of a four layer > one 0.5 mm only. First step is to drill all holes through all layers. > In case of four layers, I screw the layers together using two > diagonaly positioned screws that I place outside of the final PCB > area. Then comes the plaiting trhough process of the inner layer > (obviousely there is only one inner layer with two sided PCB's). After > this I laminate a photoresist film onto the two sides of the PCB (or > inner layer respectively). The result is then exposed and etched, then > the remaining part of the photoresist is removed by exposing the whole > print once more and develop (which will completely remove the > remaining parts of the photoresist). If this is going to be a four > layer PCB, the outer layers are glued onto the two sides of the inner > layer using a thin film of 5 minute epoxy. The previousely two screw > holes are now used to propperly align the layers. After this I drill > all holes once more to remove glue. After this the whole PCB is once > more through plated, the outer surfaces are laminated with photoresist > film, exposed, developped, etched and reexposed developped to remove > the remaining parts of photoresist. > > Now to the time it takes: > > exposure = 1.5 minutes per run > develop = 1 minute > laminateing = ~1.5 minutes per side > plate trhough run = 30 minutes up to ~1 hour depending on size of pcb > etching = ~4 minutes. > drill the holes = ( I do it manually. The photofilm is manually > alligned so as it matches the alredy present holes) - depending on the > board but rarely more than 30 minutes. > Glueing = ~15 minutes > > The times needed of course vary depending on the size and complexity > of the PCB and of course wether its a two layer or four layer one. > Bigger PCB's may take longer than 3 hours, but I think that 4 hours > should be sufficient in mostly all cases. I must add though that I do > not apply a solder stop mask or anything else because the PCB's I > create are exclusively used for prototypes. > > The chemicals I use are partially concentrates and partially ready > made mixtures which can be bought from Bungard. The photoresist is > also from Bungard. I will list them in detail later, but they do only > have "brand kind" of names which don't tell much about what they > consist of like C400 and names like this. > > The method used was shown to me by a friend I got to know through an > electronic online forum in the internet (in case you read this - thank > you John). I visited him so as he could show everything to me and he > was kind enough to explain everything to me in detail. I personally > asisted a plating through process and the result was simply stunning. > >From what I understood the speed of the plating through process and > the quality of the result extremly depends on the chemicals used. He > had much inferior results before he started to use Bungard chemicals. > Let me state that neither he nor I are in any ways related to Bungard. > > As mentioned, I will post more information including pictures as soon > as I'm ready. > > Markus > > >Markus Zingg wrote: > > > >[deleted] > >>The main advantage > >> however is independancy and the possibility to have a four layer PCB > >> completed within say 2 - 3 hours.... > > > >Multilayer in 2 - 3 hours ! No offense, but that statement > >made me laugh. Even if you had a fully automated machines > >that did everything from drill to the final dry, it will > >take much longer than 3 hours. > >With your experience of the pattern plated through hole, you > >must of learned to appreciate the complex nature of the > >process. As you said earlier its not easy, so unless the > >hobbyist wants convert to PCB making as their primary > >interest then plated through holes will be best left to > >professionals or semi-professionals. > > > >I appreciate your enthusiasm in attempting to make plated > >through hole boards at home. I've always had a interest in > >chemistry and find the inner workings of the PCB process > >quite fascinating. I'm interested in the basic method you > >are using or plan to use. Is it the pattern plating process > >or the "tent and etch" or the "etch back" process ? > > > >In the "etch back" process you take a thin copper clad board > >18 um or less (1/2 oz/ft^2), apply photoresist, expose, > >develop, and copper plate the tracks so an additional 35um+ > >is added. Remove the photoresists and etch the whole board > >until the original 18 um copper cladding is completely > >etched and so the thicker tracks are not etched. Obviously > >this requires an etching apparatus capable of uniform etch, > >something much better than simple bubble tank. > > > >Adam > > > > > > > >Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Metalized holes
2003-05-12 by Mike Putnam
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