Fairlight-CMI

Hello Fairlight people

My QWERTY is not responding and I was wondering if replacing the battery would restore 
functionality.  Ed Hughes suggests replacing battery. Have re-seated cards to no avail. Comp 
boots up fine but no response from QWERTY. My question; can I replace a 3.6V 1500mAh 
Lithium Wafer Cell with a 3.6V 1700mAh Lithium Wafer Cell? Radio shack says no problem 
but I figured I'd ask my Fairlight mates. I have a series III running rev 5.14. My machine has 
been so reliable and integral to my music making since  (man, its been awhile) - well since I 
got it. 
Though I don't post often I visit this forum daily, reassured that others are still making music 
with this machine as well.
Peace and thanks from NY
Billyrock

Hello Billy,

Have you checked the LED on the back and front of the CMI mainframe  
which indicate the voltage are OK ?

Regards.

      Laurent.

Virtual Music´s Synthesizer Service
Phone / Fax: ++43 (0) 1 - 905 94 27
E-Mail: mailto:a.guelfenburg@virtual-music.at
Web Page: http://www.virtual-music.at

Hi guys - my update. I was able to borrow a QWERTY keyboard from NYU (no telling what 
injuries this particular kybrd has suffered while institutionalized)   - where Suzanne Vega's 
old series III resides but when I got back to my studio and plugged it into my machine, 
trying both ports on the music kybrd and on back of the cpu I got the same result (no 
response).  There is a wild card I haven't mentioned but will now. When I opened up the 
front of the machine to re-seat the q133 card there were little bits of the air filter all over 
the inside of the machine (the filter having apparently disintegrated and been flown all 
over the insides by the fans).  I don't know what result this might cause but I cleaned up 
the insides, re-seated all the cards and am still a Fairlight junkie without a fix. 
I am going to replace the battery - previous battery installed Dec 2003 - in hopes that 
this will clear things up. Oh - and yes Laurent I did check the back of the CPU and all 
voltages appear to be ok.  Thanks for all your responses and suggestions my Fairlight 
brothers. I'll keep you posted.
Billyrock



--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Guelfenburg <vmebay@...> wrote:

>
> ...indeed, cabling is a real issue. Within this 
> year we have had 3 (!) CMIs IIX for service with 
> this problem. Each time the cable was broken 
> somewhere in the middle. Check this out!
> 
> Good luck,
> Alexander
> 
> 
> 
>          Virtual Music´s Synthesizer Service
>          Phone / Fax: ++43 (0) 1 - 905 94 27
>          E-Mail: mailto:a.guelfenburg@...
>          Web Page: http://www.virtual-music.at
>

Here's a suggestion for you:

Under the machine, where those desintegrated air filters are, there is
a row of small fuses, including at least one for the keyboard. You may
check those as well. You can take off the bottom cover by unscrewing
all the screws on the white bottom plate. I recommend doing this while
the machine is resting on the small side where the cards are, not with
the machine on its top because in that case all the mess with fall
into the interior if it hasnt already.

I had the same problem with the air filter today and just finished
cleaning the unit. I now have a display issue but that is likely a
wrongly inserted card. I have a Q356 and it was in either of the Q256
slots. Probably I used the wrong slot.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:27:24 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi guys - my update. I was able to borrow a QWERTY keyboard from NYU (no telling what 
>injuries this particular kybrd has suffered while institutionalized)   - where Suzanne Vega's 
>old series III resides but when I got back to my studio and plugged it into my machine, 
>trying both ports on the music kybrd and on back of the cpu I got the same result (no 
>response).  There is a wild card I haven't mentioned but will now. When I opened up the 
>front of the machine to re-seat the q133 card there were little bits of the air filter all over 
>the inside of the machine (the filter having apparently disintegrated and been flown all 
>over the insides by the fans).  I don't know what result this might cause but I cleaned up 
>the insides, re-seated all the cards and am still a Fairlight junkie without a fix. 
>I am going to replace the battery - previous battery installed Dec 2003 - in hopes that 
>this will clear things up. Oh - and yes Laurent I did check the back of the CPU and all 
>voltages appear to be ok.  Thanks for all your responses and suggestions my Fairlight 
>brothers. I'll keep you posted.
>Billyrock
>
>
>
>--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Guelfenburg <vmebay@...> wrote:
>>
>> ...indeed, cabling is a real issue. Within this 
>> year we have had 3 (!) CMIs IIX for service with 
>> this problem. Each time the cable was broken 
>> somewhere in the middle. Check this out!
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Alexander
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>          Virtual Music´s Synthesizer Service
>>          Phone / Fax: ++43 (0) 1 - 905 94 27
>>          E-Mail: mailto:a.guelfenburg@...
>>          Web Page: http://www.virtual-music.at
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Hi Harald - thanks for the suggestion, I will check them but wouldn't the LEDs on the back 
of the machine indicate if something was amiss with fuses? Also - I should have 
mentioned in description of my problem that over the past month or so the machine 
would freeze (meaning QWERT would become unresponsive) while working. This seemed 
to happen while tending to other matters (such as recording audio tracks or mixing, fixing 
using DAW Digital Performer. in hindsight it would seem the card (or whatever is the 
nature of the prob is) was on its way out.  I would re-boot Fairlight and all would be well 
for a while. 
As far as the battery - a new dilemma:
I have a question about the battery.  This is the battery
Radio shack initially
Shipped;
http://www.Radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2715443
As
You can see  - its not the same size as the battery on the card though the
Salesperson I insisted it would do the job. I sent these back and read the
Product # and battery info to the sales person - trying to get the exact
Same battery as on the q133 card - and to my dismay today when I checked the email 
from radio
Shack it seems as though they are sending me the same battery again. Will
This battery work?
Product info radio shack sent me for attempted second
Purchase:
http://www.Radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2715443

I am determined to keep my III functioning as long as I am able to make music.




--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Harald Feldmann <feldmann@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a suggestion for you:
> 
> Under the machine, where those desintegrated air filters are, there is
> a row of small fuses, including at least one for the keyboard. You may
> check those as well. You can take off the bottom cover by unscrewing
> all the screws on the white bottom plate. I recommend doing this while
> the machine is resting on the small side where the cards are, not with
> the machine on its top because in that case all the mess with fall
> into the interior if it hasnt already.
> 
> I had the same problem with the air filter today and just finished
> cleaning the unit. I now have a display issue but that is likely a
> wrongly inserted card. I have a Q356 and it was in either of the Q256
> slots. Probably I used the wrong slot.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:27:24 -0000, you wrote:
> 
> >Hi guys - my update. I was able to borrow a QWERTY keyboard from NYU (no telling 
what 
> >injuries this particular kybrd has suffered while institutionalized)   - where Suzanne 
Vega's 
> >old series III resides but when I got back to my studio and plugged it into my machine, 
> >trying both ports on the music kybrd and on back of the cpu I got the same result (no 
> >response).  There is a wild card I haven't mentioned but will now. When I opened up 
the 
> >front of the machine to re-seat the q133 card there were little bits of the air filter all 
over 
> >the inside of the machine (the filter having apparently disintegrated and been flown all 
> >over the insides by the fans).  I don't know what result this might cause but I cleaned 
up 

> >the insides, re-seated all the cards and am still a Fairlight junkie without a fix. 
> >I am going to replace the battery - previous battery installed Dec 2003 - in hopes that 
> >this will clear things up. Oh - and yes Laurent I did check the back of the CPU and all 
> >voltages appear to be ok.  Thanks for all your responses and suggestions my Fairlight 
> >brothers. I'll keep you posted.
> >Billyrock
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Guelfenburg <vmebay@> wrote:
> >>
> >> ...indeed, cabling is a real issue. Within this 
> >> year we have had 3 (!) CMIs IIX for service with 
> >> this problem. Each time the cable was broken 
> >> somewhere in the middle. Check this out!
> >> 
> >> Good luck,
> >> Alexander
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>          Virtual Music´s Synthesizer Service
> >>          Phone / Fax: ++43 (0) 1 - 905 94 27
> >>          E-Mail: mailto:a.guelfenburg@
> >>          Web Page: http://www.virtual-music.at
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Q133 card and lithium battery

update: borrowed QWERTY, replaced (correct) battery on Q133 card, re-seated
cards,
checked fuses- nothing has helped so far. Maybe the machine is not fully
booting up. In
the text line at top of DIR page there is a small space right after the word
"fairlight." need
some help diagnosing problem. not sure Q133 card is the source of my problems.
Thanks
people
and yes - if there was a way to have modern storage devices easily incorporated
into a
series III, rev 5.14 i would be interested.
Billyrock


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "billyrockplay" <billyrockplay@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fairlight people
> 
> My QWERTY is not responding and I was wondering if replacing the battery would 
restore 
> functionality.  Ed Hughes suggests replacing battery. Have re-seated cards to no avail. 
Comp 
> boots up fine but no response from QWERTY. My question; can I replace a 3.6V 
1500mAh 
> Lithium Wafer Cell with a 3.6V 1700mAh Lithium Wafer Cell? Radio shack says no 
problem 
> but I figured I'd ask my Fairlight mates. I have a series III running rev 5.14. My machine 
has 
> been so reliable and integral to my music making since  (man, its been awhile) - well 
since I 
> got it. 
> Though I don't post often I visit this forum daily, reassured that others are still making 
music 

> with this machine as well.
> Peace and thanks from NY
> Billyrock
>

i want to see if the midi board (MIDI/SMPTE, output boards: CMI-332, CMI-333), is the 
cause of my problems. can i pull this card out and run my CMI?  anybody know? 
thanks guys

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "billyrockplay" <billyrockplay@...> wrote:
>
> Re: Q133 card and lithium battery
> 
> update: borrowed QWERTY, replaced (correct) battery on Q133 card, re-seated
> cards,
> checked fuses- nothing has helped so far. Maybe the machine is not fully
> booting up. In
> the text line at top of DIR page there is a small space right after the word
> "fairlight." need
> some help diagnosing problem. not sure Q133 card is the source of my problems.
> Thanks
> people
> and yes - if there was a way to have modern storage devices easily incorporated
> into a
> series III, rev 5.14 i would be interested.
> Billyrock
> 
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "billyrockplay" <billyrockplay@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Fairlight people
> > 
> > My QWERTY is not responding and I was wondering if replacing the battery would 
> restore 
> > functionality.  Ed Hughes suggests replacing battery. Have re-seated cards to no avail. 
> Comp 
> > boots up fine but no response from QWERTY. My question; can I replace a 3.6V 
> 1500mAh 
> > Lithium Wafer Cell with a 3.6V 1700mAh Lithium Wafer Cell? Radio shack says no 
> problem 
> > but I figured I'd ask my Fairlight mates. I have a series III running rev 5.14. My 
machine 
> has 
> > been so reliable and integral to my music making since  (man, its been awhile) - well 
> since I 
> > got it. 
> > Though I don't post often I visit this forum daily, reassured that others are still 
making 

> music 
> > with this machine as well.
> > Peace and thanks from NY
> > Billyrock
> >
>

i believe its the CMI-28 board in my machine

i want to see if the midi board (MIDI/SMPTE, output boards: CMI-332, CMI-333),
is the
cause of my problems. can i pull this card out and run my CMI? anybody know?
thanks guys

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "billyrockplay" <billyrockplay@...> wrote:
>
> i want to see if the midi board (MIDI/SMPTE, output boards: CMI-332, CMI-333), is the 
> cause of my problems. can i pull this card out and run my CMI?  anybody know? 
> thanks guys
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "billyrockplay" <billyrockplay@> wrote:
> >
> > Re: Q133 card and lithium battery
> > 
> > update: borrowed QWERTY, replaced (correct) battery on Q133 card, re-seated
> > cards,
> > checked fuses- nothing has helped so far. Maybe the machine is not fully
> > booting up. In
> > the text line at top of DIR page there is a small space right after the word
> > "fairlight." need
> > some help diagnosing problem. not sure Q133 card is the source of my problems.
> > Thanks
> > people
> > and yes - if there was a way to have modern storage devices easily incorporated
> > into a
> > series III, rev 5.14 i would be interested.
> > Billyrock
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "billyrockplay" <billyrockplay@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Fairlight people
> > > 
> > > My QWERTY is not responding and I was wondering if replacing the battery would 
> > restore 
> > > functionality.  Ed Hughes suggests replacing battery. Have re-seated cards to no 
avail. 
> > Comp 
> > > boots up fine but no response from QWERTY. My question; can I replace a 3.6V 
> > 1500mAh 
> > > Lithium Wafer Cell with a 3.6V 1700mAh Lithium Wafer Cell? Radio shack says no 
> > problem 
> > > but I figured I'd ask my Fairlight mates. I have a series III running rev 5.14. My 
> machine 
> > has 
> > > been so reliable and integral to my music making since  (man, its been awhile) - 
well 

> > since I 
> > > got it. 
> > > Though I don't post often I visit this forum daily, reassured that others are still 
> making 
> > music 
> > > with this machine as well.
> > > Peace and thanks from NY
> > > Billyrock
> > >
> >
>