Fairlight-CMI

At 17:08 15/05/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Andy,
>
>I presume you want to look up who owned the unit based on the serialnumber?

No. I have a full history of the instruments ownership. The owner had two 
machines one purchased in the UK and one in the US. I am trying to identify 
which of the these two machines I have sitting in my junk pile.


>Alas, I do not know of such a list. There is however a list of current
>owners in this forum. Check the 'database' and 'polls' section.

Thanks I will look at this.

>If you can find replacement 50Hz drives it should work just fine.
>Are you sure they are 60Hz ?

I can't be sure. The markings on the discs have been removed. When these 
machines were new they were built into flight cases with frequency 
convertors. The convertors are long gone so I have to identify whether the 
machine requires a 50Hz or 60Hz supply.


Thanks for your input
Andy Ledbetter

Hi Guys.

Only the very early full width (approx 12cm) drives used the mains 
frequency to determine disk rotation speed. These drives look very 
different from all others. The CMI on this sites home page has the big 
ugly old drives, whereas all newer drives are half width (approx 6cm), 
and black, not beige (although there is a beige sheetmetal surround). 

By the way, are you the same Andy Ledbetter that worked in Argents 
keyboard store in Soho in the 1980s ?????

Regards,

Peter Wielk

Horizontal Productions in sunny Sydney

At 00:29 17/05/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Guys.
>
>Only the very early full width (approx 12cm) drives used the mains
>frequency to determine disk rotation speed. These drives look very
>different from all others. The CMI on this sites home page has the big
>ugly old drives, whereas all newer drives are half width (approx 6cm),
>and black, not beige (although there is a beige sheetmetal surround).

Peter.
You are correct. I should have specified that the model I am dealing with 
is an early Mk1 and has 12cm floppy drives.
If I remember correctly each floppy disc has a storage capacity of 600 Kb.


>By the way, are you the same Andy Ledbetter that worked in Argents
>keyboard store in Soho in the 1980s ?????

Very probably. I worked at Argents from its inception in July 1978 until 
May 1979.
Its sounds as though I should know you, but my memories from that time are 
a little blurred.

Regards
Andy

I hope these don't come across as frivolous questions.  They aren't meant 
that way.

Has the Fairlight dog sample been used much (or at all, for that matter) in 
music?

Would there be any issues if I were to use that sample in a piece of music? 
I don't own a Fairlight, and sampled the sound into a Roland V-Synth.

And out of curiosity, does anyone know what breed of dog it was - or what 
he/she was called?

To clarify why I'm asking, I've made several patches including that sample, 
and used one of them in a track that may be released on CD at some point. 
I'll probably make my own dog sample(s) at some point, but it'd help to know 
if I'm ok using the Fairlight one.

I've heard the sample was made when sampling was regarded as a bit of a 
novelty rather than as something musically serious, so it quite appeals to 
me to use it in a musical context.

 - thanks

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter Vogel

> Never thought you'd get an answer, did you ;-)

Well actually I thought if anyone could answer that question it would be 
you.

Many thanks for that.

Actually it's probably good to put a name to Candy for another reason. :D  I 
created a patch with two layered samples, one of which was the Fairlight 
sample.  I've already told my ex-girlfriend that I've crossed her with a 
dog, but it'll sound better (maybe?) to say I've crossed her with a Kelpie 
called Candy.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Peter Connelly

> I think this sample could be the same sample used in "Suburbia",
> by the Pet Shop Boys, played at different pitches. Listen to the
> beginning of the track, particularly the 12", you'll know what I mean.

It could be.  I found a sample on Amazon, but it must be later in the track 
as the dog is mixed fairly far down.  A Google search turned up the usual 
promises to let me hear the track `legally' if I allowed my computer to be 
inundated with Spyware. :D

If I find anyone who has that record I'll definitely give it a listen.

Hi all,

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this superb piece of artistry from
the group Wonder Dog.  This track is called Ruff Mix.

I found a clip on the web and I'm hosting it on my site

http://71.18.227.106/Download/Wonder_Dog_-_Ruff_Mix.mp3

I believe it's from 1982.

Enjoy!

Cheers

Chris


http://www.strellis.com
http://www.voynich.co.uk
http://www.strellis.co.uk
http://www.chromic.co.uk
http://www.myspace.com/strellismusic
http://www.myspace.com/voynichmusic
http://www.myspace.com/energiefabrik

Hi group,

Oh it gets better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw0yfiRz9zY

Simon (Pop idol, X Factor, American Idol) Cowell dressed as Wonder Dog
plus you get to see the tune performed on Top Of The Pops.

God bless YouTube!

Class.

Cheers

Chris

Thanks, Chris.  Nice to know Simon Cowell made such wonderful contributions 
to music. :D

I didn't know you were in this group.  I'm just listening again to The 
Release.  I'm intending to put together a Bob Moog tribute CD for my own 
use, with that track, along with the music that was played at his funeral. 
Seeing you on here has reminded me about that.

Going back to the sample of Candy (it's nice to be able to put a name to 
her), I wonder if anyone's blended her voice with something else to create a 
new sound, as I did with the V-Synth?  Admittedly on the piece I recorded I 
just used her voice as-is, but blending it with other sounds is obviously 
more creative.

Has anyone here done that?  In fact if anyone would like a copy of my 
V-Synth sounds that include Candy, to re-sample to the Fairlight, that could 
be interesting.

Hi Andrew,

> Thanks, Chris.  Nice to know Simon Cowell made such wonderful
contributions 
> to music. :D

He he - yeah - he doesn't talk about *that* episode much but it's nice
to know he hasn't changed one bit - LOL.

> I didn't know you were in this group.

Well I'm in a lot of synthy Yahoo groups here and it's small world
really ;)

>  I'm just listening again to The 
> Release.  I'm intending to put together a Bob Moog tribute CD for my
own 
> use, with that track, along with the music that was played at his
funeral. 
> Seeing you on here has reminded me about that.

Hey that's cool - I'm glad you liked my track.  Now this is kind of OT
for this group so it'd be a pleasure if you shoot me an email (address
on my site) and we'll talk some more.

> Has anyone here done that?  In fact if anyone would like a copy of my 
> V-Synth sounds that include Candy, to re-sample to the Fairlight,
that could 
> be interesting.

I made a Trevor Horn/Fairlight tribute but using a Casio FZ-20m called
"The Dreams We Make Real" http://www.voynich.co.uk
Not quite the same as using the real thing I should imagine :(

Cheers

Chris

It's the first recording in the first digital sampler, but the first
digital recording would've been with the Soundstream system in 1976:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundstream

PS she barks in Equinoxe on Jarre's concerts in China album.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Connelly"
<peter.yahoogroups@...> wrote:

>
> Haha. Brilliant info, Peter. Thanks :)
> 
> Can this sample or another dog sample be confirmed as the first digital
> recording?
> 
> Cheers,
> Peter

Thanks for that pointer, I was totally unaware of Stockhams's work !

> It's the first recording in the first digital sampler, but the first
> digital recording would've been with the Soundstream system in 1976:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundstream
>
> PS she barks in Equinoxe on Jarre's concerts in China album.
>
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Connelly"
> <peter.yahoogroups@...> wrote:
>>
>> Haha. Brilliant info, Peter. Thanks :)
>>
>> Can this sample or another dog sample be confirmed as the first digital
>> recording?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter

Exact !
Jarre's concerts in China album Track 6 CD1 at 8'18 ...


>From: "Harald Feldmann" <feldmann@xs4all.nl>
>Reply-To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
>To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight dog sample
>Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 17:09:07 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Thanks for that pointer, I was totally unaware of Stockhams's work !
>
> > It's the first recording in the first digital sampler, but the first
> > digital recording would've been with the Soundstream system in 1976:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundstream
> >
> > PS she barks in Equinoxe on Jarre's concerts in China album.
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Connelly"
> > <peter.yahoogroups@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Haha. Brilliant info, Peter. Thanks :)
> >>
> >> Can this sample or another dog sample be confirmed as the first digital
> >> recording?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Peter
>
>

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You're welcome. Check out the recordings on the Telarc label. Still
sounds amazing today.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Harald Feldmann" <feldmann@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for that pointer, I was totally unaware of Stockhams's work !

At 11:18 17/05/2007, you wrote:
>At 00:29 17/05/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Guys.
> >
> >Only the very early full width (approx 12cm) drives used the mains
> >frequency to determine disk rotation speed. These drives look very
> >different from all others. The CMI on this sites home page has the big
> >ugly old drives, whereas all newer drives are half width (approx 6cm),
> >and black, not beige (although there is a beige sheetmetal surround).
>
>Peter.
>You are correct. I should have specified that the model I am dealing with
>is an early Mk1 and has 12cm floppy drives.
>If I remember correctly each floppy disc has a storage capacity of 600 Kb.

If anybody is interested in parts from this machine or the whole machine 
please let know . The serial number is SNA148069.
Pictures at http://www.millhouse.co.uk/fairlight/. Like wise the Prophet 5 
and Linn Drum Machine in these pictures.

Regards
Andy Ledbetter

> >By the way, are you the same Andy Ledbetter that worked in Argents
> >keyboard store in Soho in the 1980s ?????
>
>Very probably. I worked at Argents from its inception in July 1978 until
>May 1979.
>Its sounds as though I should know you, but my memories from that time are
>a little blurred.
>
>Regards
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Andy,

 

I might be interested. Unfortunately, I haven't been following the
thread. I see the unit has older disk drives, but what else is wrong
with it? Will the OS come up and will disk operations load and save
properly?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob Coover

 

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From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy L
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:29 AM
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Floppy drive frequency.........

 

At 11:18 17/05/2007, you wrote:
>At 00:29 17/05/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Guys.
> >
> >Only the very early full width (approx 12cm) drives used the mains
> >frequency to determine disk rotation speed. These drives look very
> >different from all others. The CMI on this sites home page has the
big
> >ugly old drives, whereas all newer drives are half width (approx
6cm),
> >and black, not beige (although there is a beige sheetmetal surround).
>
>Peter.
>You are correct. I should have specified that the model I am dealing
with
>is an early Mk1 and has 12cm floppy drives.
>If I remember correctly each floppy disc has a storage capacity of 600
Kb.

If anybody is interested in parts from this machine or the whole machine

please let know . The serial number is SNA148069.
Pictures at http://www.millhouse.co.uk/fairlight/.
<http://www.millhouse.co.uk/fairlight/>  Like wise the Prophet 5 
and Linn Drum Machine in these pictures.

Regards
Andy Ledbetter

> >By the way, are you the same Andy Ledbetter that worked in Argents
> >keyboard store in Soho in the 1980s ?????
>
>Very probably. I worked at Argents from its inception in July 1978
until
>May 1979.
>Its sounds as though I should know you, but my memories from that time
are

>a little blurred.
>
>Regards
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Last year I started a topic on this sample, and Peter Vogel very kindly 
provided some information on its origin - she was an Australian Kelpie 
called Candy, belonging to Michael Carlos.

I've just made a piece called Spacedog that comments on Candy's accidental 
immortality through having been sampled.  I don't own a Fairlight, and this 
was done using patches on a Roland Vsynth to process Candy's bark, along 
with EMS synth sounds from my Vsynth EMS project and orchestral sounds from 
Direct Wave (the orchestral sounds are my own apart from one Direct Wave 
sample - Arturia CS80V strings, a real cello played by me, and so on).

In case anyone's interested in this Fairlight related piece, albeit not 
performed on a Fairlight, it's at:

http://sweep.infinite9ths.com/

As it's the latest addition it's at the bottom of the track list.

There's also a rather bizarre cover version of Gong's (equally bizarre) 
`I've Bin Stoned Before,' also with Candy's voice, as part of the Gong cover 
versions program at:

http://www.myspace.com/zerosheroescd

My track with Candy is currently the last track on the list.