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2006-11-13 by tzinzunzan2006
Has anyone on this list seen prints made from this paper? Or, perhaps, Ilford's ILFOSPEED RC DIGITAL? I'm interested in hearing how they compare with both traditional analog/optical as well as inkjet prints. Chris Hargens
2006-11-13 by Mark Savoia
I have seen it and had a test file done (we are an Ilford dealer, so hence the connection). It is basically the exact same paper as their FB paper except they have adjusted the sensitivity of the emulsion to react to lasers from a Lightjet, etc. Same glossy air dried looking surface, same weight. Labs in NYC and Montreal are beta testing right now. Mark
On Nov 13, 2006, at 12:50 PM, tzinzunzan2006 wrote: > Has anyone on this list seen prints made from this paper? Or, perhaps, > Ilford's ILFOSPEED RC DIGITAL? I'm interested in hearing how they > compare with both traditional analog/optical as well as inkjet prints. > > Chris Hargens > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-11-13 by tzinzunzan2006
Sounds good. It will be interesting to see how prints made through this process -- assuming other things being equal -- compare to inkjet prints on the new fiber gloss/luster papers. Also, I wonder how much of increase in print costs there will be over the RC paper currently used by places like mpix, since not only will the paper cost more but also the washing, drying, and flattening process must be more involved. Chris Hargens --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
> > I have seen it and had a test file done (we are an Ilford dealer, so > hence the connection). It is basically the exact same paper as their > FB paper except they have adjusted the sensitivity of the emulsion to > react to lasers from a Lightjet, etc. Same glossy air dried looking > surface, same weight. Labs in NYC and Montreal are beta testing right > now. > Mark
2006-11-13 by Mark Savoia
The only thing that looked strange was there was some white text in the image, that fogged out (blur edges). I here the price range will be over $300 for a 16x20, but for those labs that have had a Lightjet for years it may be less since they have recouped the initial cost so far. One lab is using a new fiber base processor designed by Hostert (I think) otherwise you would need to guess where to cut the roll so you can tray or trough process by hand. Did I mention we are talking about 60" wide rolls right now? Mark
On Nov 13, 2006, at 3:08 PM, tzinzunzan2006 wrote: > Sounds good. It will be interesting to see how prints made through > this process -- assuming other things being equal -- compare to inkjet > prints on the new fiber gloss/luster papers. Also, I wonder how much > of increase in print costs there will be over the RC paper currently > used by places like mpix, since not only will the paper cost more but > also the washing, drying, and flattening process must be more > involved. > > Chris Hargens > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia > <mark@...> wrote: >> >> I have seen it and had a test file done (we are an Ilford dealer, so >> hence the connection). It is basically the exact same paper as their >> FB paper except they have adjusted the sensitivity of the emulsion to >> react to lasers from a Lightjet, etc. Same glossy air dried looking >> surface, same weight. Labs in NYC and Montreal are beta testing right >> now. >> Mark > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-11-14 by Tim Atherton
Bob Carnie at Elevator Digital in Toronto is one who is testing the paper (not Montreal I think?) He's very impressed with it. They were already doing digital fibre B&W on their Lambda, but I understand that with a custom lightjet paper now, it's even better. I think their prices will probably remain the same - not 100% sure? (They are on his site www.elevatordigital.ca ) A 16x20 is currently $90.00 (cdn), 30x50 - $325.00) If you look on apug.org, you should find some posts on the paper and Bob's responses
2006-11-14 by eddiegnz1
www.modernage.com is ready to print on this paper today. the model nubmer is SP888P. You need to email them or call them. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tzinzunzan2006" <tzinzunzan2006@...> wrote: > > Has anyone on this list seen prints made from this paper? Or, perhaps, > Ilford's ILFOSPEED RC DIGITAL? I'm interested in hearing how they > compare with both traditional analog/optical as well as inkjet prints.
> > Chris Hargens >
2006-11-20 by Mark Savoia
I know this is a bit off topic but just wanted to get a feel what most people think is the correct file to send to a film recorder when a black and white neg is being output. Does a 8 bit RGB file (with lack of color in it) have more "information" in it then a 8 bit grayscale image? I know it will be a smaller file size but is there info in an RGB file that would help to make a better black and white negative? The software RIP for the film recorder will take either. Mark
2006-11-20 by bwinkjet
Hi Mark, If the BW conversion results in R=G=B, then all three channels are the same, i.e., contain the same information. You can prove this to yourself by turning each channel into a layer and compare with "difference" in the layers palate. The difference in information is prior to conversion to BW, but once it is R=G=B any channel is equal to the converted Gray scale file. Paul --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > > I know this is a bit off topic but just wanted to get a feel what > most people think is the correct file to send to a film recorder when
> a black and white neg is being output. Does a 8 bit RGB file (with > lack of color in it) have more "information" in it then a 8 bit > grayscale image? I know it will be a smaller file size but is there > info in an RGB file that would help to make a better black and white > negative? The software RIP for the film recorder will take either. > Mark >
2006-11-24 by Mark Savoia
I know this is OT but I have 80 rolls of Ilford HP-5 Plus 36 exp I want to sell. Expiration date of July 2010, all same emulsion. $200 for all (that's only $2.50 each). Contact off list only please. mark@...