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2004-01-22 by bobphoto
I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution. Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-22 by chipcarterdc
I disagree. A "good" method is provided by ImagePrint (which I'm currently using) or QuadTone RIP. That said, the "best" solution probably IS a printer running grayscale inks (which I'm currently investigating -- the options are mind-boggling). --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bobphoto" < bobphoto@a...> wrote: > I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution.
> > Bob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-22 by Mark Hahn
most people on this list are using quadtones, and you can get stunning results, but once you look closely at the details they all seem to have issues. With no actual proof, I would guess that the Cone profiles would be best, but I can't back that up and I have seen clear proof that you can still get posterization from the Piezography system just like the others. HP has come out with 3 printers that have a dedicated tri-tone inkset for b&w printing which is supposed to blow almost anything else out of the water (limited paper choices and 8.5x14" max size, but hey, it's cheap and works out of the box). My vote for the "ideal printer" today would be an Epson 2200 + ImagePrint; it gives the smoothest b&w gradient I have ever seen and gives great color as well... unfortunately, I don't have $1000 to spend on a printer today. If I can't improve my quadtone output over the weekend I am going to buy the HP 7660 for $149. mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bobphoto" <bobphoto@a...> wrote: > I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution.
> > Bob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-22 by Tom Baker
Bob Except for cost, the Imageprint 2200/7600/9600/(soon)4000 is as close as you'll get to an 'ideal' single printer solution. No hassle, no fuss, just print. Plus, the b&w print tone control from that combination is really nice. Tom Baker bobphoto <bobphoto@...> wrote: I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution. Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-22 by lea
Does this mean 'ideal' using Epson cartridges and semi-gloss paper (my preference is Ilford Smooth Pearl) on an Epson 2200? How easy is Image print to use straight out of the box...once installed? Is there a lot of fiddling with settings or does it do most of the work? Thanks for any insight. Lea
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Baker" <tbaker1328@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] BW Printing Conclusion Bob Except for cost, the Imageprint 2200/7600/9600/(soon)4000 is as close as you'll get to an 'ideal' single printer solution. No hassle, no fuss, just print. Plus, the b&w print tone control from that combination is really nice. Tom Baker bobphoto <bobphoto@...> wrote: I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution. Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. 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2004-01-22 by bwinkjet
Hi Lea,
Image Print 5.6 is easy to use after set up which can be a bit
complicated, particularly if using a firewire connection with your
printer. Once set up well it is very easy to use. There is an
extensive library of profiles for many different papers and special
gray profiles for BW printing. (Still a hint of metamerism, but
close enought for me and I am particular) There is a version 6
being released in Feb. to which you can upgrade when available. The
printing on semi-gloss papers is good, but not as good as dye
printing. Over all this is the best solution for me; using both
matt and glossy papers and color and BW printing.
Paul
---
In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lea" <lea@w...>
wrote:
> Does this mean 'ideal' using Epson cartridges and semi-gloss paper
(my
> preference is Ilford Smooth Pearl) on an Epson 2200? How easy is
Image
> print to use straight out of the box...once installed? Is there a
lot of
> fiddling with settings or does it do most of the work?
>
> Thanks for any insight.
> Lea
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Baker" <tbaker1328@s...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] BW Printing Conclusion
>
>
> Bob
>
> Except for cost, the Imageprint 2200/7600/9600/(soon)4000 is as
close as
> you'll get to an 'ideal' single printer solution. No hassle, no
fuss,
> just print. Plus, the b&w print tone control from that
combination is
> really nice.
>
> Tom Baker
>
> bobphoto <bobphoto@a...> wrote:
> I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some
time
> that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone
> unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish
it
> weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal
> color/bw solution.
>
> Bob
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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2004-01-22 by Tom Baker
Lea - There's no fiddling with IP. Install it and print. When you select the paper profile from a drop down menu, it takes care of all of the settings. The main things you have to tell IP are the paper size you are using, and if it is sheet or roll. You can download various paper profiles from the IP website at no charge. They are for use with IP only. You don't need to use any of the Photoshop print setup. Save your print-ready file and open it in IP. I've been using it for a year with my 9600, and I feel that I made a great choice for my needs. Tom Baker lea <lea@whinydogpress.com> wrote: Does this mean 'ideal' using Epson cartridges and semi-gloss paper (my preference is Ilford Smooth Pearl) on an Epson 2200? How easy is Image print to use straight out of the box...once installed? Is there a lot of fiddling with settings or does it do most of the work? Thanks for any insight. Lea
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Baker" <tbaker1328@sbcglobal.net> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] BW Printing Conclusion Bob Except for cost, the Imageprint 2200/7600/9600/(soon)4000 is as close as you'll get to an 'ideal' single printer solution. No hassle, no fuss, just print. Plus, the b&w print tone control from that combination is really nice. Tom Baker bobphoto <bobphoto@...> wrote: I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution. 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2004-01-23 by bobphoto
Does IP work with MIS inks? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-23 by Mark Hahn
ok, it isn't quite 'ideal' since, IMO, the 2200 only really *shines* on matte paper and not on glossy. ImagePrint is perfect right out of the box. mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lea" <lea@w...> wrote: > Does this mean 'ideal' using Epson cartridges and semi-gloss paper (my > preference is Ilford Smooth Pearl) on an Epson 2200? How easy is Image > print to use straight out of the box...once installed? Is there a lot of > fiddling with settings or does it do most of the work? > > Thanks for any insight. > Lea > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Baker" <tbaker1328@s...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] BW Printing Conclusion > > > Bob > > Except for cost, the Imageprint 2200/7600/9600/(soon)4000 is as close as > you'll get to an 'ideal' single printer solution. No hassle, no fuss, > just print. Plus, the b&w print tone control from that combination is > really nice. > > Tom Baker > > bobphoto <bobphoto@a...> wrote: > I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time > that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone > unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it > weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal > color/bw solution. > > Bob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources > as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this > same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. 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2004-01-23 by Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Mark Hahn [mailto:markhahn2000@...] > > ok, it isn't quite 'ideal' since, IMO, the 2200 only really *shines* > on matte paper and not on glossy. Do you mean that the 2200 is better on matte than on glossy in an absolute sense, or do you mean that when compared to a dye printer the 2200 is more of an improvement on matte paper than it is on glossy? -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2004-01-23 by Mark Hahn
all the 2200 prints on glossy and lustre type papers that I have seen do not look as good to me as matte paper prints behind glass. the bronzing etc. is not terrible, but the pigment just seems to lay better on a matte paper. ...lots of people are happy enough with it on other papers, just not me... ...and compared to a dye based printer, I think that color from a 1280 is probably better on any paper, but just slightly on matte... and it won't last the 90+ years that you'll get from the 2200. mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@i...> wrote: > > From: Mark Hahn [mailto:markhahn2000@y...] > > > > ok, it isn't quite 'ideal' since, IMO, the 2200 only really *shines* > > on matte paper and not on glossy. > > Do you mean that the 2200 is better on matte than on glossy in an absolute > sense, or do you mean that when compared to a dye printer the 2200 is more
> of an improvement on matte paper than it is on glossy? > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@i...
2004-01-23 by Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Mark Hahn [mailto:markhahn2000@...] > > all the 2200 prints on glossy and lustre type papers that I have seen > do not look as good to me as matte paper prints behind glass. the > bronzing etc. is not terrible, but the pigment just seems to lay > better on a matte paper. ...lots of people are happy enough with it > on other papers, just not me... I really like the 2200 on Premium Luster. Even with the Matte Black ink, you can't get as dense blacks on any Enhanced Matte. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2004-01-23 by Bob Michaels
re: your comment "unless you're satisfied with Black Only printing" implying BO is not quite as good as quadtone. There are some of use who can print both ways but prefer the look of a BO print. It's a personal preference. I do believe the consensus of this group is that the ideal way to print both b&w and color is two printers. I have a 1280 with UT inks but I mostly print BO with just the Eboni. For color I have a 890. I wouldn't trade that setup (totaling under $500) for anything out there. Bob Michaels I --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bobphoto" <bobphoto@a...> wrote: > I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution.
> > Bob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-23 by Tom Baker
On IP5.6 the only inkset that is supported is Ultrachrome. Tom Baker bobphoto <bobphoto@...> wrote: Does IP work with MIS inks? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-23 by Mark Hahn
Yupp, that's why I tried to make it clear that it was just *my* opinion:) mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@i...> wrote: > > From: Mark Hahn [mailto:markhahn2000@y...] > > > > all the 2200 prints on glossy and lustre type papers that I have seen > > do not look as good to me as matte paper prints behind glass. the > > bronzing etc. is not terrible, but the pigment just seems to lay > > better on a matte paper. ...lots of people are happy enough with it > > on other papers, just not me... > > I really like the 2200 on Premium Luster. Even with the Matte Black ink, you
> can't get as dense blacks on any Enhanced Matte. > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@i...
2004-01-23 by J Vee
I don¹t know if anyone is interested and it is essentially an Epson group , but since I have learned so much here that I have been able to apply, I will outline my situation. I am using an 11 color Colorspan printer, quad blacks included. The printer carries its own camera for linearity and profile building. The quad blacks are fairly neutral on Photo Rag. Uses quad black + 7 color for CYMK prints. Using the company supplied profiles gives terrible grayscale prints on 11 color. However, building ones own profiles makes a completely neutral print. Additionally, with a profiled monitor, any ³toned² image is reproduced almost exactly. A major drawback is that these inks are only available as ³long lasting dye². The company also has pigment inks but the gamut is severely limited. I understand that their extended gamut dye set has a short print longevity. J Vee [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-23 by slightlyoutoffocus
The Imageprint website touts the ability of the RIP to handle Quad Black inks (which I would assume to include MIS). My fuzzy memory tells me that some people in this group use Imageprint and MIS with some success. I guess it might depend on what "support" means. Kiefer Elliott Vancouver, Canada --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tom Baker <tbaker1328@s...> wrote: > On IP5.6 the only inkset that is supported is Ultrachrome. > > Tom Baker > > bobphoto <bobphoto@a...> wrote: > Does IP work with MIS inks? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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2004-01-23 by Tom Baker
That is only for certain printers. Tom Baker slightlyoutoffocus <by_design@...> wrote: The Imageprint website touts the ability of the RIP to handle Quad Black inks (which I would assume to include MIS). My fuzzy memory tells me that some people in this group use Imageprint and MIS with some success. I guess it might depend on what "support" means. Kiefer Elliott Vancouver, Canada --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, Tom Baker <tbaker1328@s...> wrote: > On IP5.6 the only inkset that is supported is Ultrachrome. > > Tom Baker > > bobphoto <bobphoto@a...> wrote: > Does IP work with MIS inks? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. 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2004-02-17 by David J. Simons
I would have to second Tom's statement. That the below listed Epson printers and Image Print make an exceptional one printer solution. I was working with quad tone and ultra tone inks before I say my first ImagePrint and Epson 2200 print. After that I sold all my printers and went with an Epson 2200 and ImpagePrint. Zero maintenance and excellent prints, well worth the expense. Regards, David
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Baker [mailto:tbaker1328@...] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:46 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] BW Printing Conclusion Bob Except for cost, the Imageprint 2200/7600/9600/(soon)4000 is as close as you'll get to an 'ideal' single printer solution. No hassle, no fuss, just print. Plus, the b&w print tone control from that combination is really nice. Tom Baker bobphoto <bobphoto@...> wrote: I have come to the conclusion after reading this forum for some time that the only good method of printing BW images is to use quadtone unless you are satisfied with BO printing. Is this true? I wish it weren't because I would like to see the 4000 or 1280 as the ideal color/bw solution. 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